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jacob
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These people don’t look like police detectives so there were civilians very close to the crimescene that night.

And what is the criteria you used to determine they weren’t detectives? What was a detective supposed to look like back then?

Wearing a cape and deerstalker, obviously.

 
Posted : August 9, 2019 9:31 pm
(@eduard-versluijs)
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Tom,

I see someone that looks like a lady on the left. Women officers weren’t present in San Francisco untill 1975.

 
Posted : August 11, 2019 10:26 am
Israelite Wolfman
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Why don’t you just Google it? It took me five seconds. Because you already know the answer.

Buckle up, buddy, we all want to catch the zodiac just as u do, don’t talk to us like ur above any of us in any way, not here and not on Reddit, we are all cohorts here in the internet communities, regardless of whether we own a site and a tapatalk forum or not.

And now to the more secure things we can deduce from this picture: Richard Gaikowski is 80% the person we see in the front, probably got notified of the murder of Paul Stine and arrived from his cousin’s birthday party that took place in that very neighborhood that bloody night, if he was zodiac then BOTH the 3 Robbins teenagers and Donald Fouke would recognize him as such. "zodiac" ran off to the Presdio and hit the gas before the searches even extended and went there.

That’s my poi: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=4009

 
Posted : August 11, 2019 4:28 pm
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don’t talk to us like ur above any of us in any way, not here and not on Reddit

How about mind your own business?

 
Posted : August 11, 2019 9:45 pm
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Richard Gaikowski is 80% the person we see in the front

There is no Gaikowski in that photo. Also, Pat didn’t live near Presidio Heights.

 
Posted : August 11, 2019 11:18 pm
jacob
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Uh did you check out the guy behind?

Forgive me for highlighting the skinny guy with glasses instead of the person the OP pointed at.

If you take a look at him he doesn’t look like Zodiac at all. He looks short and chubby with facial hair.

 
Posted : August 12, 2019 12:13 am
buyerninety
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A colour version of that photograph is viewable here;
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/presidio- … ttack.html

rjsisco said;
"1. The reporter standing next to the cab looks a lot like Richard Gaikowski"

In the discussed photo in the first post that bothers the OP so much, I would suggest
that standing in the ‘foreground left to right’, we see: an unidentified patrolman, probably
(Toschi’s partner) Bill Armstrong https://diva.sfsu.edu/collections/sfbatv/bundles/231081
, possibly one of ‘the Greeks’ (Coreris or Fotinos), and Toschi.

rjsisco said;
"2. The man behind him… that mustache stands out so much it screams fake"…
"The background & darkness make it difficult to tell if he is wearing a cap. I considered
a police officer, but if he were a cop he would have a badge on the cap….. It just looks like a
disguise to me
"

We may never know for certain who the background people are.
That said, I would suggest there is at least a trivial probability that the person you have
specified in the above paragraph is Leroy Sweet, Assistant traffic manager of Yellow Cab,
mentioned in Armand Pelissetti’s police report , (e.g., on Mike Butterfield’s website);
http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/galler … play_media

In minor support of this assertion, is the circumstance that there was an actor named
Leroy Sweet, who can be seen in this 1986 movie ‘TRICK OR TREAT‘;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs1SoqA4Pq4
at timestamp 1:16:49, as the cop on the left ("1st cop" in the IMBD listing)
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0842283/?re … _fc_cl_t23
and that actor Leroy Sweet bears a resemblance to the Leroy Sweet we see in the
1969 photograph, even down to the (fake?!) moustache…

 
Posted : August 27, 2019 12:03 pm
ophion1031
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This couldn’t possibly by Gyke. He was nowhere near that area on that night!

Was he in Europe again?

Actually, he was at your mom’s house. ;)

A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….

 
Posted : October 17, 2019 12:04 pm
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This couldn’t possibly by Gyke. He was nowhere near that area on that night!

Was he in Europe again?

Actually, he was at your mom’s house. ;)

Wow, how old are you? 15?

 
Posted : October 17, 2019 8:52 pm
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Wow, how old are you? 15?

Tom, let me suggest a course of action for you that might strengthen the case for Gaikowski …. analyze the Zodiac letters for the use of AP Style.

Journalists use writing rules peculiar to the profession known as AP Style. Gaikowski would likely use this professionally, and traces of it would probably seep into personal letters.

I did it once a few years back and posted a thread about it somewhere on this site. You might be able to search for it. My feeling was inconclusive. But some of the writing choices that Zodiac makes are peculiar and consistent with oddities of journalism. One example that I can recall is that Z hyphenates teen-agers, which journalists do (or used to do) and most people don’t.

You might go and run the letters by a journalism professor and see what he/she says.

 
Posted : October 31, 2019 7:43 pm
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analyze the Zodiac letters for the use of AP Style.

There are four pages of discussion about Gaikowski’s writings here:
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/zodiack … ings-f122/

 
Posted : October 31, 2019 8:22 pm
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Im still waiting on those 69/70 photos of gaik that are rumored to exist..yep..still waiting

Gaik is a possibility for stein….

 
Posted : November 1, 2019 6:11 am
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You act entitled.

 
Posted : November 1, 2019 11:28 pm
ophion1031
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You act entitled.

HAHA!!! Let me post one of your famous quotes:

"Trust me — I will get that report sooner or later and when I do I am quite sure it will be full of blatant lies. You’ve convinced me of it."

You calling someone else entitled cracks me up.

A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….

 
Posted : November 3, 2019 3:46 pm
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Attempting to achieve something is acting entitled in your world? Wow, ok.

 
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