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If they find Ross’ DNA on Cheri’s pants

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Tahoe27
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That was only something the killer said. There was nothing found, as far as a knife, and nothing broken off in Cheri.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 14, 2017 6:30 am
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If dna proves ross then great..if not i hope it leads to the person responsible for her untimely and cruel death…….i dunno if ross is the z..like all of em some things look great and other things are like trying to get my cat to fetch my slippers….i still believe z was in riverside though so the ross as z holds interest

 
Posted : December 14, 2017 6:44 am
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That was only something the killer said. There was nothing found, as far as a knife, and nothing broken off in Cheri.

Thanks for clarifying that!

 
Posted : December 14, 2017 6:57 am
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actually, why do you think they found a males blood/DNA dripped on her pants. he probably did break his knife,cut his hand. otherwise why would a hoaxter make that up.

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Posted : December 14, 2017 9:16 am
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I don’t think the knife would have to break for it to slip and cut his hand. That’s not to say it didn’t actually break as it certainly could have. I was just reiterating no broken knife was found and there were no broken pieces in Cheri, so, it wasn’t a part of the proof the letter writer killed her.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 14, 2017 9:58 am
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I was just reiterating no broken knife was found and there were no broken pieces in Cheri,

Not saying our wrong, but you are assuming we know everything the police know. We don’t. They always hold back certain details.

 
Posted : December 14, 2017 10:57 am
Tahoe27
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I was just reiterating no broken knife was found and there were no broken pieces in Cheri,

Not saying our wrong, but you are assuming we know everything the police know. We don’t. They always hold back certain details.

We know there was nothing found (as far as any sign of a broken knife) in Cheri as we have been privy to the autopsy report.

Could the police have it? Anything is possible…


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 14, 2017 11:29 am
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Anything is possible…

That’s what I mean, we don’t even know what he meant by the knife breaking. He said "I plunged the knife into her and it broke", but then goes on to say "I then finished the job by cutting her throat".

So, if it did break, it wasn’t broken bad enough to stop him from cutting her throat with it. I’m guessing it was a small pocketknife he used. I’ve had them "break" where the blade doesn’t lock anymore, just flops back and forth, that might be what he meant. He could have also opened another blade and used it to "finish the job".

Whatever the case, I agree it’s most likely it didn’t break off in her body and if it broke and fell to the ground I can’t see him spending time to fish around in the dark to find it.

 
Posted : December 15, 2017 2:42 am
Tahoe27
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Anything is possible…

That’s what I mean, we don’t even know what he meant by the knife breaking. He said "I plunged the knife into her and it broke", but then goes on to say "I then finished the job by cutting her throat".

So, if it did break, it wasn’t broken bad enough to stop him from cutting her throat with it. I’m guessing it was a small pocketknife he used. I’ve had them "break" where the blade doesn’t lock anymore, just flops back and forth, that might be what he meant. He could have also opened another blade and used it to "finish the job".

Whatever the case, I agree it’s most likely it didn’t break off in her body and if it broke and fell to the ground I can’t see him spending time to fish around in the dark to find it.

Yah, I doubt it broke and fell. He didn’t take much time to look for the watch either…if that is his. ;) Considering it appears to be ripped of, I think it was.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 15, 2017 2:45 am
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If I recall the discussions we’ve had about the Bates Confession letter, there are details in it that were not known publicly. IIRC, the letter basically says (heavily implies) that the writer called the police that night. The police would be in a position to know. I’m pretty sure, also, that there’s an FBI document stating that the writer knew details not known to the public. That doesn’t mean the FBI was right about that. But ….

Someone can correct me if I’m wrong.

 
Posted : December 15, 2017 11:01 am
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I’m assuming that would be enough for everyone to agree he killed her, but would it be enough for you to move him to the top of your Zodiac suspect list given that, the sketch, similar handwriting, etc?

I look at it this way: Suppose there’s a murder of someone you know. it’s not solved. And then two or three years later, there’s a famous murder spree in another part of the state. And a drawing of the suspect looks a lot like a guy she knew who had been at least a minor suspect in the murder in your town. And it turns out that there are letters in both cases, and the state’s chief forensics handwriting expert says the handwriting matches. And the expert is (more or less) backed up by the FBI.

Sure, it could all be a coincidence. But what does your common sense tell you?

DNA would just be more fuel to that fire.

 
Posted : December 15, 2017 11:35 am
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Well put.

 
Posted : December 15, 2017 6:54 pm
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I think that DNA from Cheri’s pants whether it belonged to Ross, or somebody else, could be an important find

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Posted : December 17, 2017 6:53 pm
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I think that DNA from Cheri’s pants whether it belonged to Ross, or somebody else, could be an important find

When do you think this will be announced/released to public – being held for a Season 2?

 
Posted : December 17, 2017 7:27 pm
Tahoe27
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I think that DNA from Cheri’s pants whether it belonged to Ross, or somebody else, could be an important find

When do you think this will be announced/released to public – being held for a Season 2?

When they find a match for it. We won’t know until someone is arrested, or…if they get familial DNA from a dead guy and match it that way, whether to Ross, or anyone else. The latter is the only way I can see the History Channel having (even the slightest) say.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 18, 2017 12:30 am
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