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(@dag-maclugh)
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I’m not familiar with DNA testing. Is a fresh sample needed for each test? Or is the DNA sample computerized, so to speak, so that the original sample need not be used?

 
Posted : February 17, 2018 2:42 am
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Hopefully we finally can catch a break…if not it still may be good news as the perp has to be sweating blood by now if he/she is still alive…i will not be surprised if several dna strands are found though….z can go on..i want her killer caught and charged..nobody deserves to die the way she did

 
Posted : February 17, 2018 3:01 am
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I have confirmed familial DNA would be compared with the DNA on the pants, should the family member choose to do a private DNA test. I will be discussing this with morf, privately, for now.

Good work, best news I’ve heard all year.

Maybe we should consider a fundraiser of some sort to help pay for the DNA test ?

 
Posted : February 17, 2018 3:33 am
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I have confirmed familial DNA would be compared with the DNA on the pants, should the family member choose to do a private DNA test. I will be discussing this with morf, privately, for now.

This is incredible news!

 
Posted : February 17, 2018 3:49 am
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I’m not familiar with DNA testing. Is a fresh sample needed for each test? Or is the DNA sample computerized, so to speak, so that the original sample need not be used?

I think there are markers for comparison. Once the testing has been completed, it’s a done deal.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : February 17, 2018 4:53 am
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Re the Bates case: One would think, after half a century, that Riverside PD would welcome intelligent contributions from this, and other, boards. Such, apparently, is not to be. IMO, RPD has so totally invested its collective ego in promoting "Bob Barnett" as Cheri’s killer that it refuses to consider other PsOI. So…. Are there any legal means (e.g., a lawsuit) by which RPD would be forced to divulge info they’ve squirreled away (I’m principally thinking here of Cheri’s diary)?

 
Posted : February 17, 2018 8:25 pm
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Apparently not; question withdrawn

 
Posted : February 19, 2018 7:58 pm
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Apparently they did not find alien DNA on Cheri’s pants, at least not when testing the blood.

What’s the condition of the watch found at the scene? It is a piece which most certainly has come from the killer. When Cheri ripped it off, it must’ve caused at least a slight abrasion on his wrist. So there must’ve been, if not blood, skin cells at least on the wristband at some point.

I wonder if they’ve tried to test the watch or if the possible evidence on it is too degraded by now.

 
Posted : February 20, 2018 1:54 pm
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They tested the watch. DNA was found.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : February 21, 2018 12:55 am
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Ah, alright. Somehow completely missed that.

 
Posted : February 21, 2018 1:01 am
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I don’t think they mentioned it on the HC program. It was confirmed for me later though.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : February 21, 2018 1:07 am
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They tested the watch. DNA was found.

Wow, so they can run that DNA through GED? That would be awesome, with the watch and Zodiac DNA being processed through GED at the same time!

 
Posted : May 6, 2018 5:24 am
 zrek
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They tested the watch. DNA was found.

wow.. and have they checked up with gedmatch? what are they waiting for?

 
Posted : April 26, 2019 10:41 pm
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They tested the watch. DNA was found.

Wow, so they can run that DNA through GED? That would be awesome, with the watch and Zodiac DNA being processed through GED at the same time!

As I understand it, they only have a mitochondrial DNA profile from the Bates case. I would welcome being corrected on this, though. Mitochondrial DNA profiles are insufficient for anything other than proving the sample came from one maternal line. It cannot individualize. In other words, a mitochondrial DNA profile is not specific to one individual; it belongs to everyone related matralineally for a few generations.

 
Posted : April 26, 2019 11:25 pm
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Re the Bates case: One would think, after half a century, that Riverside PD would welcome intelligent contributions from this, and other, boards. Such, apparently, is not to be. IMO, RPD has so totally invested its collective ego in promoting "Bob Barnett" as Cheri’s killer that it refuses to consider other PsOI. So…. Are there any legal means (e.g., a lawsuit) by which RPD would be forced to divulge info they’ve squirreled away (I’m principally thinking here of Cheri’s diary)?

There are lawsuits to compel production of public records. A proper request would need to be submitted and denied. Then one could sue in court to enforce the open records statutes of California. If CA is like my state, a defense could be raised that the records are part of an ongoing investigation. Such a defense, if proven, would erect an absolute bar to the compelled production of those records. I think it is an interesting policy argument to say that the public has a greater right to know the contents of the record than LEOs have a right to preserve an investigation as elapsing time makes it more likely that the perpetrator is un-prosecutable. At some undetermined point in the future (5, 10, 50, 100 years from now) that argument should prevail.

 
Posted : April 26, 2019 11:31 pm
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