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MT. Clue for Ross?

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up2something
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so, how do we KNOW it didn’t come from the bindings at LB? please no hearsay replies. post a link with the FACTS.

From what I recall, the DNA sample came from one or more of the letters. That’s what was compared to Allen’s DNA to rule him out. DNA from the bindings, if there is any, is likely worthless; they were handled by many others and likely tainted. I believe there’s even a pic of Toschi holding them. Sorry, don’t have a link. If you do a search on Allen/DNA/letters or something to that effect, you can probably track it down.

 
Posted : September 3, 2015 3:14 am
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here we go again. Tom Voight’s site has postings stating in 2013 a lady
with LE said they had Z’s DNA. no ands, ifs or buts. she also said they
were not revealing where they got it. so, stamps, bindings, etc is just
your GUESS. if you don’t believe me, check out Voight’s site under DNA.

 
Posted : September 3, 2015 3:32 am
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so, how do we KNOW it didn’t come from the bindings at LB? please no hearsay replies. post a link with the FACTS.

From what I recall, the DNA sample came from one or more of the letters. That’s what was compared to Allen’s DNA to rule him out. DNA from the bindings, if there is any, is likely worthless; they were handled by many others and likely tainted. I believe there’s even a pic of Toschi holding them. Sorry, don’t have a link. If you do a search on Allen/DNA/letters or something to that effect, you can probably track it down.

Your on the right track, up2something. It is Narlow and Lonergan in the newspaper photograph holding the clothesline with their bare hands.

www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com

 
Posted : September 3, 2015 3:43 am
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you’re missing the point, folks. wherever it came from, they claim
they have DNA. why are we chasing all over for circumstantial evidence,
when what we need is a sample of Ross’ or a close relative’s DNA.
Tom Voight seems to get LE to listen to him. do you think Gyke’s DNA
hasn’t been checked by now? most like it has and there is no match.
what we really need here is some DNA. it appears fingerprints are out.

 
Posted : September 3, 2015 4:10 am
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you’re missing the point, folks. wherever it came from, they claim
they have DNA. why are we chasing all over for circumstantial evidence,
when what we need is a sample of Ross’ or a close relative’s DNA.
Tom Voight seems to get LE to listen to him. do you think Gyke’s DNA
hasn’t been checked by now? most like it has and there is no match.
what we really need here is some DNA. it appears fingerprints are out.

Who is going to give them the DNA sample. The Boston police intelligence unit tried to get DNA from Albert DeSalvo’s brother, but they failed miserably. They brought in undercover cops to walk dogs around his house. He lives on a dead end street, and he is a very streetwise man. He didn’t fall for their childish games, and I’m sure Ross’s brother won’t either. They had to get DeSalvo DNA off a plastic water bottle that was discarded by the Stranglers nephew Timmy. He died last year, so they are lucky they got it before he died.

 
Posted : September 3, 2015 4:30 am
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Prints will still be around in the buried case files..if sent in to state or fbi they will still have them…nutin gets tossed..what we need is somebody to walk into sfpd with the hood and bloody shirt swatch they found in grandpas basement after he died

 
Posted : September 3, 2015 4:39 am
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i’m not going to make suggestions out in the open on this site.
use what you just said as an example. thank you, Mr. Holmes.

 
Posted : September 3, 2015 4:39 am
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People for the most part will not co operate with the police. In Providence RI, people get hit with bats, stabbed, shot, etc, but they will not snitch to the police. They want to take care of their adversaries themselves. You can see the trend growing very strong too. Helping the police is a no no in most cities today. Maybe in the lily white suburbs they play the mans game, but not in the city. The less you say to those people the better off you will be.

 
Posted : September 3, 2015 4:42 am
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be that as it may, there are ways to get that DNA.
it seems that is the only way we ever can really say
with some certainty Ross is innocent or guilty. after
all the back-and-forth on this site, that would be a relief.

 
Posted : September 3, 2015 4:50 am
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Your on the right track, up2something. It is Narlow and Lonergan in the newspaper photograph holding the clothesline with their bare hands.

Ah yes. Thanks Deb. :D

 
Posted : September 3, 2015 5:13 am
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be that as it may, there are ways to get that DNA.
it seems that is the only way we ever can really say
with some certainty Ross is innocent or guilty. after
all the back-and-forth on this site, that would be a relief.

It would be a relief, and a huge saving of time, to be able to definitively cross off Ross and some other popular POIs.

I’ve seen companies like Ancestry.com advertising that you can send in a sample of your DNA and they can tell you what nationality you are. IF LE does have Z’s DNA, couldn’t they at least check that?

Nice thing about the USA, in this regard, is that our European history is only a few hundred years old. Many of us can trace our roots back to Europe going back just a few generations. So… wouldn’t it be good to know if Z was, for example, Italian, or Irish, or German?

IF LE has his DNA (and if it’s usable) this would be pretty obvious, and simple, wouldn’t it? And then those on this site who trace family histories could take various POIs ancestry back through the years and narrow the field.

 
Posted : September 3, 2015 5:15 am
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look on Tom Voight’s site under DNA. a woman with LE in 2013 stated
they had it. no questions asked. so now what? why are we chasing
a bunch of circumstantial evidence and playing he said, she said.?

 
Posted : September 3, 2015 5:21 am
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They have it, but some will say it is tainted or not Zodiac’s. "Someone else licked the stamps…"


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : September 3, 2015 5:56 am
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:)

 
Posted : September 3, 2015 5:57 am
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look on Tom Voight’s site under DNA. a woman with LE in 2013 stated
they had it. no questions asked. so now what? why are we chasing
a bunch of circumstantial evidence and playing he said, she said.?

They have DNA from somebody. How are they going to get Ross’s DNA, he’s dead and buried. They would need a court order to dig up a grave. A judge needs much more than that to allow such a thing. His surviving family doesn’t want to cooperate in the investigation. There is nothing more they can do.

 
Posted : September 3, 2015 5:59 am
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