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doranchak
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Source:

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : September 4, 2015 10:20 pm
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Here are the full reports:

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s1/sh/02 … 4b321a28d2

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : September 4, 2015 10:21 pm
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The DNA report above doesn’t reference any Berryessa hairs

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

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Posted : September 4, 2015 10:47 pm
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I keep saying the hair was dark brown? Only Hartnell said that.

I am strictly going by the DNA analysis–no he said she said. The FBI mentioned–and there is proof shown here documented in paperwork–(4) brown Caucasian hairs. People get hot on a suspect and they tend to dismiss viable evidence, the R.P.D not withstanding.

Problem is, Hartnelll said that & it’s in the report,but in the same report, a witness told police that Cecelia said Z was wearing glasses under the hood. So…do we believe the reports, or not believe the reports??

I think DNA reports speak for themselves. With Riverside, no matter what was "said" by whom, it is what it is.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : September 4, 2015 11:02 pm
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I keep saying the hair was dark brown? Only Hartnell said that.

I am strictly going by the DNA analysis–no he said she said. The FBI mentioned–and there is proof shown here documented in paperwork–(4) brown Caucasian hairs. People get hot on a suspect and they tend to dismiss viable evidence, the R.P.D not withstanding.

Problem is, Hartnelll said that & it’s in the report,but in the same report, a witness told police that Cecelia said Z was wearing glasses under the hood. So…do we believe the reports, or not believe the reports??

I think DNA reports speak for themselves. With Riverside, no matter what was "said" by whom, it is what it is.

FBI says "brown"

Riverside says "blonde"

You’re right, it is what it is.

 
Posted : September 4, 2015 11:26 pm
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all the more reason not to dismiss Ross on the basis of height, weight,
haircolor, glasses etc. this case is maddening because of the conflicting
accounts and "evidence!"

 
Posted : September 4, 2015 11:30 pm
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FBI says "brown"

Riverside says "blonde"

You’re right, it is what it is.

But, it’s brown. ;)

The FBI shows proof. This is what I mean by the proof being shown and some people still choosing to dismiss it.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : September 4, 2015 11:41 pm
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But, it’s brown. ;)

The FBI shows proof. This is what I mean by the proof being shown and some people still choosing to dismiss it.

Scratches on the face.
http://i.usatoday.net/sports/gallery/20 … rtical.jpg

 
Posted : September 4, 2015 11:52 pm
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Also, there are girls in this photo that clearly have blonde hair. Does it look like Ross has blonde hair? No. He has brown hair that is darker at the roots. Probably lightens to reddish brown / sandy blonde as it grows out. Like his brother.

 
Posted : September 4, 2015 11:58 pm
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FBI says "brown"

Riverside says "blonde"

You’re right, it is what it is.

But, it’s brown. ;)

The FBI shows proof. This is what I mean by the proof being shown and some people still choosing to dismiss it.

So Riverside must be filled with idiots who can’t tell blonde from brown.

There are two sources, you choose to believe one. I think either can be correct because both had access to it and we don’t. There’s a discrepancy. I’m not "dismissing" anything. I’m conveying that there’s another opinion from a reputable source, which there is.

P.S. They don’t "show" proof because I don’t see the hairs. They wrote it in a report. Just as RPD wrote the opposite in a report.

 
Posted : September 5, 2015 12:23 am
Tahoe27
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Like I said, those who choose to believe it was "their" guy will find whatever excuse to dismiss the facts.

Is there Riverside documentation (DNA) showing blonde hair? THAT would prove a discrepancy. Not some guy who worked there telling a story who appeared to want folks to believe it was the departments POI’s hair.

You say you are 100% positive Ross killed Cheri. Of course you will argue the brown hairs. Riverside did the same thing and look how that turned out.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : September 5, 2015 12:42 am
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So it’s impossible for those hairs to belong to Ross? Was every hair on Ross’s body a perfectly matching shade of blond?

They talked about hair on Gen Y podcast and talked about how matching hair is far from an exact science.

It’s right here at 00:30:15
http://thegenerationwhypodcast.com/jeff … nald-case/

 
Posted : September 5, 2015 1:17 am
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So it’s impossible for those hairs to belong to Ross? Was every hair on Ross’s body a perfectly matching shade of blond?

Sure it’s possible. Nearly anything is. I would love to be able to definitively prove that Ross (or anyone for that matter) was Cheri’s killer and/or the letter writer and/or Z. I think we all agree that DNA evidence, fingerprints, etc. would be wonderful. Several people have inquired as to what LE possesses. So go for it. Give it a shot and find a POC that’s willing to share information. It’s easy to keep suggesting what "should be done." I for one have no contacts in LE whatsoever. Perhaps our efforts should be directed towards finding a contact with legitimate information instead of rehashing the same old talking points over and over. There are literally hundreds of posts that have repeated the same questions and observations.

I really appreciate those that have put forth the effort to dig up more info on Ross… morf, Jeff, Deb, Paul, etc. But I think we’re at an impasse that can only be cleared with help from LE or family. I honestly don’t know the best way to approach that or if it’s even possible. LE is probably tired of "nut jobs on Z boards." Any suggestions?

 
Posted : September 5, 2015 2:36 am
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i second that post 100%. we need help here.

 
Posted : September 5, 2015 2:44 am
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Also, there are girls in this photo that clearly have blonde hair. Does it look like Ross has blonde hair? No. He has brown hair that is darker at the roots. Probably lightens to reddish brown / sandy blonde as it grows out. Like his brother.

These are black & white pics. Some of the girls, obviously look like Blondes. Others definitely have darker hair. If I had to guess with Ross, I would say light brown. I wish he had a fuller head of hair, it might make it easier.

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : September 5, 2015 4:09 am
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