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I would like to see geographic profiling utilized more, focusing on the behaviour of the Zodiac Killer, to first narrow down a hot zone of residence, then targeting that area for potential suspects, the vehicles they drove, their lifestyle, criminal records, photographs etc. Rather than chasing suspects up and down the country, without knowing where they resided during key Zodiac crimes. Also focusing on the periods Zodiac went quiet, say from March 71 to January 74- was he imprisoned and released during this period. Often you learn more from the things they didn’t do, as opposed to the crimes we are now too familiar with. The series is interesting and I am enjoying their endeavour, although it’s probably far more entertaining for the audience less familiar with the Zodiac Killer story.
The cipher ‘solving’ CARMEL is an interesting piece of kit, but attempting to solve a cipher (if genuine) will likely only decipher another load of gobbledygook, just like the meaningless ramblings of the 408. It certainly won’t discover a name or anything productive, but I understand the quest for the unexplained. I think that we all know realistically, there is no buried bomb on or near Mount Diablo. This was the idle threats of a braggart. So, in essence, deciphering the 340 or searching for a phantom bomb that would be now 47 years old, will in no way advance the ‘Hunt for the Zodiac Killer.’ I agree with Mike, the show is worth viewing and may unearth some new information, particularly through the DNA analysis in Riverside, and privileged access, but it’s all about entertainment and the chances of identifying the Zodiac Killer will in all likelihood be the same after episode 5, as it was at 10.00 pm on November 14th 2017.

 
Posted : November 22, 2017 5:56 pm
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This will certainly end not solved.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : November 22, 2017 9:38 pm
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Its ok to focus on a primary suspect BUT Rule one is keep an open mind, which I think pretty much everyone has done.
This show, as you say wont solve who z is, but the airplay might bring a few more people out of the woodwork who might help. maybe a distant Sullivan will hand over his DNA that will prove or disprove him, or someone might remember something important that will open a new line of enquiry.
cheers

 
Posted : November 23, 2017 3:10 am
(@checkmate)
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This will certainly end not solved.

Ya I think if they made any real progress it would have made national news when it was filming. They seem to be filling time searching for a bomb, and next a body.

 
Posted : November 23, 2017 3:50 am
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Kane has been dumped upside down and shaken for years. Not that great a suspect if you are already familiar with him. I don’t want to make it a ‘Ross vs. Kane’ contest, but Ross is connected to the RCC library where Zodiac’s writing was found. Kane has never been linked there. Ross really looked just like the Zodiac sketch, but the photo that they showed of Kane, sorry, just not that close. LE has looked into Kane, just nothing there. Make no mistake, it’s highly likely at the end of these 5 episodes, the case won’t be solved, and no Suspect whether Ross or Kane, will be confirmed to be Zodiac

The only thing that EP showed about Kane was he had code training and still looks like Henry the phone repairman on the show Alice, then he does to the Z sketch. Actually Peter Ohara was accused of being Z basically cause he had code training which proved to be bogus for him being Zodiac. I did get a kick out of the investigators saying we know Ross had code training. Why cause he may have read a code book in the past? I guess I qualify having code training cause I also read a book on it 20 years ago!

 
Posted : November 23, 2017 5:32 am
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The only thing that EP showed about Kane was he had code training and still looks like Henry the phone repairman on the show Alice…

That’s hilarious!


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : November 23, 2017 7:37 am
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One thing stands out to me in this episode. It was when Mains says that if they discover Ross was military it’ll be a game changer and would raise him (lifting his hand to head level) as a suspect. I wonder if this is a foreshadowing? I wonder if they discovered Ross was military.

 
Posted : November 23, 2017 10:32 am
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i have not been able to get episode two yet.. why is the military side of things so important.. if its the code his first one was not military grade and the second one could be more difficult just "because" he read up to make it harder.. if its shoes or boots all he needed was a family member Mum or Dad to be in the military and they could buy it for him. Returned soldiers were a plenty, so for me z being in the military is unimportant.

 
Posted : November 23, 2017 11:32 am
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i have not been able to get episode two yet.. why is the military side of things so important.. if its the code his first one was not military grade and the second one could be more difficult just "because" he read up to make it harder.. if its shoes or boots all he needed was a family member Mum or Dad to be in the military and they could buy it for him. Returned soldiers were a plenty, so for me z being in the military is unimportant.

or he could have just bought his military apparel at an army surplus store, really no need for Z to have been military.

We know from Barbara Van Tomme (the RCC librarian) that Ross wore an army jacket & shoes.

 
Posted : November 23, 2017 2:21 pm
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Did Ross receive draft deferments ?

 
Posted : November 23, 2017 7:43 pm
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Did Ross receive draft deferments ?

There is a military record for Ross someone from this site got through the FOIA. He initially registered in late 1959 and was first examined in 1962 where he was classified 1-A. So there must have been some sort of deferment between 1959 and 1962. We know he went to Glendale College in 1959-1960 and then attended Riverside City College for a short time in 1961 (according to Joanne Bailey).

Then, for a reason no one knows, he was examined again in November 1963 and failed. He was reclassified 1-Y in January 1964. People with mental illness were usually classified 1-Y, which means approved for service if only absolutely necessary.

 
Posted : November 23, 2017 11:02 pm
(@gunya)
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Thank you JeffP

How could Ross have gained knowledge about bomb making and Mt.Diablo ?

Also…. aren’t most cold cases solved with DNA ?

 
Posted : November 24, 2017 12:03 am
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I don’t think that Ross was ever in the military

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : November 24, 2017 8:03 pm
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It is good to see ross finally breaking out of the second tier suspects….morf deserves mucho credit for this but i dont want to add to his 10 gallon head swell…was anything uncovered in regards to his mental health records or his whereabouts up north????

 
Posted : November 26, 2017 12:09 pm
morf13
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It is good to see ross finally breaking out of the second tier suspects….morf deserves mucho credit for this but i dont want to add to his 10 gallon head swell…was anything uncovered in regards to his mental health records or his whereabouts up north????

Not that they have shared thus far

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : November 28, 2017 12:11 am
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