What do you guys think of History basically casting Sullivan aside because he has no military background?

So they’re done with him now? They won’t revisit him at all?

I think like all things based on entertainment value the end result will be pure bull shit…the net positive is the show puts
Ross out there (amongst others) and it may stir a memory or handwriting sample in a year book (or other) or some 20 year old kid who inherited grandpas weird costume with weird symbols now thinks grandpa may be involved in other things besides being weird..the show is for ratings and entertainment value..it wont solve z

Didn’t seem like they was ruling Ross out from the final EP and was saying how he match the theater guys memory of the leather guy. Think they just gave Kane a little more attention. Ruling him out though cause of no military background would be bs though.

"Leather guy" and i think ALA and not ross…i believe there is a photo of ala in "leather" ….

"Leather guy" and i think ALA and not ross…i believe there is a photo of ala in "leather" ….

I”ll bet Graysmith is the one who took the pic of ALA in leather lol.

Can someone answer this for me: Cheri jo Bates fought back and it seems she would have scratched her attacker’s face (it is the obvious thing to attack tbh) and so if the police interviewed Ross Sullivan (and surely they did this early on as the Library staff were among the first people interviewed as far as I can tell) then they would have noticed the scratches on his face and he would have been the prime suspect? Yet he isn’t and he had an alibi. There were tons of detectives working this case, hundreds of people-hours worked to try to solve this, something like 200 people interviewed, a huge number of leads followed, and yet nothing led them to Ross Sullivan, other than the suspicions of some library staff.

Now the obvious claim is that RPD had a favourite suspect, but at what point did he become the favourite, and what gave them such tunnel-vision regarding him? (I am not saying it was him, to be clear.)

The police did thousands of hours of diligent investigation and the library staff didn’t, other than suspicions, rumours and tales. Given a choice between the two, I put more credence in the police. But even the library staff admitted the police told them Sullivan had an alibi. He worked at the library, so it’s inconceivable he wasn’t thoroughly checked out. CJB had been involved in a prolonged and determined fight to save her life, the testament of which can be found in the autopsy findings and the multitude of knife wounds and defensive wounds exhibited. The blood clot and hair, and the torn wristwatch absolute proof of the valiant battle she gave. Had Ross Sullivan been interviewed by police one day, or two weeks after the murder, it is with little doubt the imprint of Cheri Jo Bates’ defense of her life would have been upon him, not to mention his hair microscopically analyzed and his fingerprints and handwriting tested. To believe the police did none of this, is simply unrealistic, and they likely ruled Sullivan out of the murder early on in the investigation. Creepy, over-sensationalized stories by imaginative library staff years after the fact is not evidence and shouldn’t thwart the comprehensive police work of the Riverside department, no matter their shortcomings. If Ross Sullivan is implicated in the murder of Cheri Jo Bates because he worked at the library and had mental issues, then we don’t really have much. Working at the library is not a crime, and neither is being a bit odd.
If we consider that there were other library staff employed at Terracina Drive who never came under the heavy spotlight of suspicion – what are we left with. The Quasimodo syndrome of targeting somebody simply because they are different or mentally challenged – and mentally challenged doesn’t mean murderer.

Can someone answer this for me: Cheri jo Bates fought back and it seems she would have scratched her attacker’s face (it is the obvious thing to attack tbh) and so if the police interviewed Ross Sullivan (and surely they did this early on as the Library staff were among the first people interviewed as far as I can tell) then they would have noticed the scratches on his face and he would have been the prime suspect? Yet he isn’t and he had an alibi. There were tons of detectives working this case, hundreds of people-hours worked to try to solve this, something like 200 people interviewed, a huge number of leads followed, and yet nothing led them to Ross Sullivan, other than the suspicions of some library staff.

Now the obvious claim is that RPD had a favourite suspect, but at what point did he become the favourite, and what gave them such tunnel-vision regarding him? (I am not saying it was him, to be clear.)

It’s possible Cheri Jo could have scratched her assailant almost ANYWHERE.

I don’t know exactly when RPD’s suspect "Bob Barnett" became their #1 suspect, my understanding is that there were two
informants that came forward and stated they saw BB at an all night diner after the time of the murder and he was in an
"emotional state" and said he had "snuffed Cheri".

Tom Voigt has an article about the informants on his website titled "The case against Bob Barnett".

The police did thousands of hours of diligent investigation and the library staff didn’t, other than suspicions, rumours and tales. Given a choice between the two, I put more credence in the police. But even the library staff admitted the police told them Sullivan had an alibi. He worked at the library, so it’s inconceivable he wasn’t thoroughly checked out. CJB had been involved in a prolonged and determined fight to save her life, the testament of which can be found in the autopsy findings and the multitude of knife wounds and defensive wounds exhibited. The blood clot and hair, and the torn wristwatch absolute proof of the valiant battle she gave. Had Ross Sullivan been interviewed by police one day, or two weeks after the murder, it is with little doubt the imprint of Cheri Jo Bates’ defense of her life would have been upon him, not to mention his hair microscopically analyzed and his fingerprints and handwriting tested. To believe the police did none of this, is simply unrealistic, and they likely ruled Sullivan out of the murder early on in the investigation. Creepy, over-sensationalized stories by imaginative library staff years after the fact is not evidence and shouldn’t thwart the comprehensive police work of the Riverside department, no matter their shortcomings. If Ross Sullivan is implicated in the murder of Cheri Jo Bates because he worked at the library and had mental issues, then we don’t really have much. Working at the library is not a crime, and neither is being a bit odd.
If we consider that there were other library staff employed at Terracina Drive who never came under the heavy spotlight of suspicion – what are we left with. The Quasimodo syndrome of targeting somebody simply because they are different or mentally challenged – and mentally challenged doesn’t mean murderer.

THIS. Thank you Richard.

Can someone answer this for me: Cheri jo Bates fought back and it seems she would have scratched her attacker’s face (it is the obvious thing to attack tbh) and so if the police interviewed Ross Sullivan (and surely they did this early on as the Library staff were among the first people interviewed as far as I can tell) then they would have noticed the scratches on his face and he would have been the prime suspect? Yet he isn’t and he had an alibi. There were tons of detectives working this case, hundreds of people-hours worked to try to solve this, something like 200 people interviewed, a huge number of leads followed, and yet nothing led them to Ross Sullivan, other than the suspicions of some library staff.

Now the obvious claim is that RPD had a favourite suspect, but at what point did he become the favourite, and what gave them such tunnel-vision regarding him? (I am not saying it was him, to be clear.)

It’s possible Cheri Jo could have scratched her assailant almost ANYWHERE.

I don’t know exactly when RPD’s suspect "Bob Barnett" became their #1 suspect, my understanding is that there were two
informants that came forward and stated they saw BB at an all night diner after the time of the murder and he was in an
"emotional state" and said he had "snuffed Cheri".

Tom Voigt has an article about the informants on his website titled "The case against Bob Barnett".

I have read previously about this Bob Barnett and his ‘admission’ at the diner/group get together. Im not saying I disbelieve it but I do have difficulty in squaring the, I assume, fairly cool and cunning perpetrator of the CJB murdrer and Barnett failing at basic murdering 101. I have never murdered anyone but even I know not to admit to murder in front of a single person let alone two people. It just seems an odd, but not impossible thing to have happened.

I agree with your statement Jackydee, but then one has to wonder why would TWO people lie and make up such a story
with apparently no motive to do so ? (supposedly they both passed polygraph tests)

As we know the fingerprints and DNA are a conclusive no match for BB, so it is a very very strange conundrum and I just
don’t know what to make of it !

I agree with your statement Jackydee, but then one has to wonder why would TWO people lie and make up such a story
with apparently no motive to do so ? (supposedly they both passed polygraph tests)

As we know the fingerprints and DNA are a conclusive no match for BB, so it is a very very strange conundrum and I just
don’t know what to make of it !

I wonder wether the two people at the diner got the dates wrong? Maybe it was a day afterwards and Barnett is agitated after learning his ex is dead. It is all very puzzling. I’ll have to read the Barnett info again.

I agree with your statement Jackydee, but then one has to wonder why would TWO people lie and make up such a story
with apparently no motive to do so ? (supposedly they both passed polygraph tests)

As we know the fingerprints and DNA are a conclusive no match for BB, so it is a very very strange conundrum and I just
don’t know what to make of it !

All physical evidence points away from Riverside’s prime suspect in Cheri’s murder; yet RPD refuses to give up on him, and the result is 50+ years later, the case is unsolved. Because of this tunnel vision, I don’t trust what they supposedly did in ruling Ross out as Cheri’s killer

Does anyone have a current name (and email address) for the Bates Case investigator? I’ve been stonewalled in the past by RPD but am willing to give it one last try.
Thanx,
Dag

Does anyone have a current name (and email address) for the Bates Case investigator? I’ve been stonewalled in the past by RPD but am willing to give it one last try.
Thanx,
Dag

You still will not get anywhere

The last investigator with whom I corresponded was Adrian Tillett in November 2018.

Thanx for the info. Seems RPD remains intransigent as ever.