Good news today! I just found the address of this man and his telephone number. He was born in 1925, so that makes him 90 years old. He posted to a forum 3 years ago, and he seems quite sharp.

I agree that Ross probably fell through the cracks. Ross was admitted to the mental health care system at a time when funding to the mental health hospital was in decline. It was felt that many of these patients could do better by being in the mainstream population while being cared for on an out patient basis. The mental health population in California state hospitals was cut almost in half between 1959 and 1969. Unfortunately, there were not enough programs in place on the outside to accommodate the influx of mental patients hitting the streets. There was not enough housing nor general oversight that these patients were receiving the care and medication they needed.

This is an older article, but it’s a good one, regarding the mental health care situation in the US.

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/30/scien … began.html

Hi, do you want the name of a man who worked with the mental health patients at Agnew Hospital in 1967-1972? I just found hi address and telephone number, when he was born.

Sure! You can PM it to me and I’ll see if he is still living and if so, work something out with Morf about making contact.

I’m sure this man can give the names of other people who worked at Agnew at this period of time. This is the lead we need here. He must be interviewed in person as well.

Sure! You can PM it to me and I’ll see if he is still living and if so, work something out with Morf about making contact.

I just checked and the people who worked at Agnew can be contacted via e-mail, through that site. There are a few who have posted who worked there for many years. We just need one of these people to get more ex employees names. I’m keeping my fingers crossed that we can hit pay dirt here.

I found the name of a woman that was a volunteer at Agnew when she was very young. Around 1974. Even though this is a few years past the killing spree, she may know names of others who worked there. This woman drove the patients to church and so forth. From this info, it would appear that Agnew was using volunteers in the early 1970’s. These volunteers were perhaps college students, as this woman was, so their age would be 60-70 years old. It would be a beautiful thing if we can generate a list of people that worked there in the late 1960’s and 1970’s.

I just found the name of a man who worked with mental health patients at Agnew a Hospital from 1967-1972. He worked at the hospital from 1967-1987. Do you want his name? I don’t want to post it here.

I found the name of a woman that was a volunteer at Agnew when she was very young. Around 1974. Even though this is a few years past the killing spree, she may know names of others who worked there. This woman drove the patients to church and so forth. From this info, it would appear that Agnew was using volunteers in the early 1970’s. These volunteers were perhaps college students, as this woman was, so their age would be 60-70 years old. It would be a beautiful thing if we can generate a list of people that worked there in the late 1960’s and 1970’s.

Good finds! I’m sure morf would love to speak with them, and I do recommend sharing with morf your findings (despite our different views on this case, I can still clearly see that morf is a good investigator from an investigators standpoint!), but if you want a good recorded statement from them then I’ll be more than welcome to interview them, as well.

I just found the name of a man who worked with mental health patients at Agnew a Hospital from 1967-1972. He worked at the hospital from 1967-1987. Do you want his name? I don’t want to post it here.

I found the name of a woman that was a volunteer at Agnew when she was very young. Around 1974. Even though this is a few years past the killing spree, she may know names of others who worked there. This woman drove the patients to church and so forth. From this info, it would appear that Agnew was using volunteers in the early 1970’s. These volunteers were perhaps college students, as this woman was, so their age would be 60-70 years old. It would be a beautiful thing if we can generate a list of people that worked there in the late 1960’s and 1970’s.

Good finds! I’m sure morf would love to speak with them, and I do recommend sharing with morf your findings (despite our different views on this case, I can still clearly see that morf is a good investigator from an investigators standpoint!), but if you want a good recorded statement from them then I’ll be more than welcome to interview them, as well.

I’ve passed the info up the chain regarding these matters. Personally, I would like to get names, names, and more names. If one were say, a freelance journalist writing a book on the significant aspects of California historical sites, this might be a good way to approach these people. During the interview the subject has to change to the connection between the Agnew Hospital, and the Zodiac Killer. Perhaps the idea that the Zodiac was patient there could get some useful
Info. It must be done low key, lead a horse to water and get him to drink. People love to talk, given the proper conditions of comfort and ease with the interviewer. Probing for leads as to somebody that knew Ross’s personal business is imperative to getting a solid timeline of Ross’s movements during the times of Zodiac’s crimes.

I’m only a lowly student of the game here. I would think a good interviewer would be very helpful. I would pass it by " The Boss", to see what he thinks. His knowledge and background on this case are beyond exceptional.

I’m only a lowly student of the game here. I would think a good interviewer would be very helpful.

Well, I’m a private investigator by trade and taking recorded statements is certainly in my arsenal

I’m only a lowly student of the game here. I would think a good interviewer would be very helpful.

Well, I’m a private investigator by trade and taking recorded statements is certainly in my arsenal

Curious…are you a CA P.I.?

I’m only a lowly student of the game here. I would think a good interviewer would be very helpful.

Well, I’m a private investigator by trade and taking recorded statements is certainly in my arsenal

Curious…are you a CA P.I.?

Nope, I live in the southeast

Well,what the Agnews cuts would say to me is that a patient probably had to be pretty far gone and possibly violent to get committed. Would pinning someone in a phone booth be considered violent? I doubt it, unless there’s something more to it. I would guess that RS would have been medicated, stabilized and then sent out, maybe or maybe not to a halfway house. Which appears to have happened. It’s just a matter of how quickly and where.

Sorry QT, I deleted the Sullivan post you made as it was irrelevant.

Does anyone know what type of things a "rubber stamp shop" would sell or what type of services they would provide? I found something on a place called Angelo’s Rubber Stamp Shop that was 0.9 miles from where Ross lived in 1968 and 1.6 miles from the assisted living home where he died in 1977. The article that mentions this shop was from 1977 also. Trying to find our if it was around in the late 60’s. If so, I wonder if Ross ever bought supplies from there.

EDIT: Interesting coincidence… the newspaper article was from the very same day that Ross died.