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At any rate, placing him somewhere in definite terms in the crucial time frame is more important than debating his weight, I think. Where was he on Dec 20th, 1968; Jul 4th, 1969; Sept 27th, 1969 – and Oct 11th, 1969?"

A-Flipping-men friend!

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At any rate, placing him somewhere in definite terms in the crucial time frame is more important than debating his weight, I think. Where was he on Dec 20th, 1968; Jul 4th, 1969; Sept 27th, 1969 – and Oct 11th, 1969?"

A-Flipping-men friend!

Exactly

I would guess that if it is true that his brother suspected him of being the Zodiac, it likely would point to him him being in the area and out of the mental institution at the time.

I would guess that if it is true that his brother suspected him of being the Zodiac, it likely would point to him him being in the area and out of the mental institution at the time.

If only we knew

Drama queen-ish on your part, Holmes.

You gotta be able to take some hits. These aren’t even hits – they’re just…well, people saying you’re out of line. If you can’t take that, then happy trails – but you’re clearly overreacting.

I like Ross as a Suspect just as much, if not more than anybody else,but some of the giant leaps,guesses,or speculation about him, are pretty over the top. The ones about the possibility he killed his parents are based on nothing at all. If one or both were murdered, and their cases unsolved,I could see that speculation.

Bottom line is, we have sketchy info about Ross. We know he looked like the Z sketch, we know he was in the RCC Library. We know he was suspected by RCC Library staff of killing Cheri. We know he made it to Santa Cruz and was arrested in 1968. We know he died there in 1977,and that on his death cert, it lists that he was living in Santa Cruz for 3 years. We know he was in and out of mental hospitals, and that his Brother suspected he was Z.

We DON’T know if Ross was ever in Vallejo,Napa,or SF during the Z crimes, or if he was there at all. We have a lot to discover about Ross,and it’s possible, we may never discover what we need.

People should be careful what they assume regarding Ross, there are too many questions, and not enough answers. Wild speculation won’t prove anything.

People should be careful what they assume regarding Ross, there are too many questions, and not enough answers. Wild speculation won’t prove anything.

Very well said.

I’m interested in learning more about Ross too, but I will say this: If it turns out Ross is innocent, I really will have a lot of sympathy for him. In that case, he will have lived a short, very difficult life, and then, after his death, had a lot of people speculate a lot of very ugly things about him, unfairly.

I think we should keep digging for hard evidence about Ross, but with the attitude that we are equally trying to clear him as convict him.

I agree. And I think that Morf and others have been consistent in their assertions of this.

I agree. And I think that Morf and others have been consistent in their assertions of this.

And I also agree with that.

People should be careful what they assume regarding Ross, there are too many questions, and not enough answers. Wild speculation won’t prove anything.

Very well said.

I’m interested in learning more about Ross too, but I will say this: If it turns out Ross is innocent, I really will have a lot of sympathy for him. In that case, he will have lived a short, very difficult life, and then, after his death, had a lot of people speculate a lot of very ugly things about him, unfairly.

I think we should keep digging for hard evidence about Ross, but with the attitude that we are equally trying to clear him as convict him.

Good post Marshall. It’s just unfortunate some don’t look at him as innocent until proven guilty before coming up with wild accusations and him and his family.

Ross is innocent until proven guilty, without a doubt. At the same time, being that he was the only suspect connected to the RCC writing established as being Zodiac’s, and that he looked identical to the later Z sketch, he needs to be fully looked into and properly eliminated as a suspect

It’s clear why you think Ross is a valid suspect.

My post was only directed at those who make wild accusations. Unfortunately, LE is the only one who can officially clear anyone as a suspect and unless you get them to re-open the file on Ross, it would appear he already has been.

To looking at him here, everyone is free (of course) to do so, just hoping the far-fetched theories will cease.

Ross seems like a very good POI. That’s almost a strike against him being the Zodiac. You would have to think police looked at him pretty seriously.

To looking at him here, everyone is free (of course) to do so, just hoping the far-fetched theories will cease.

I agree. We need to focus on linking him to Vallejo,Napa,or SF areas. We need to look for people that knew him, jobs he worked at, etc. Wild accusations or theories about him or his Family will not help

Ross seems like a very good POI. That’s almost a strike against him being the Zodiac. You would have to think police looked at him pretty seriously.

They supposedly did in the Bates case and he had a alibi. In 1977, Dave Peterson asked Toschi to look into him, and we don’t know if he ever did. Ross is NOT in the suspect database in Vallejo or Napa(who knows about SFPD)The FBI did NOT have a file on Ross, so I think it’s likely, his prints were never checked by them.

Ross seems like a very good POI. That’s almost a strike against him being the Zodiac. You would have to think police looked at him pretty seriously.

They supposedly did in the Bates case and he had a alibi. In 1977, Dave Peterson asked Toschi to look into him, and we don’t know if he ever did. Ross is NOT in the suspect database in Vallejo or Napa(who knows about SFPD)The FBI did NOT have a file on Ross, so I think it’s likely, his prints were never checked by them.

Very interesting.

Thinking a little more about my statement here …. So the Bates murder occurs, several people inform police about their suspicions about Sullivan, Sullivan produces an alibi, for whatever reason perhaps a person confirms his story. Then the poem is found. Then the mailings come. But police have already ruled him out and there’s no immediate reason to rule him back in. Then he moves to NoCal. They lose track.

That makes sense.