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Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

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great work Eric ! thanks for taking the time to obtain all this info.

It’s very strange Ross’ family would lie and claim he had died when he was still alive, Bizarre !

 
Posted : June 6, 2017 8:53 pm
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In regards to the RPD, could be that hey have dismissed him because they have valid reason to. Maybe not, but I think it’s unfortunate people keep throwing "Barnett" into the mix. That would be like the entire VPD dismissing any other Zodiac suspects because Bawart liked Allen. Sure, there was a time when "BB" was their top suspect, and the RPD seemed blind to others, but it’s been 50 years…I think they have looked at other folks. We know they have. And, we know they continue to follow her case–even using modern DNA techniques. We know the RPD is aware of Ross. I just don’t see them ignoring Ross (Zodiac case or not) over an old suspect who turned out to be innocent.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : June 6, 2017 8:55 pm
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There have been researcher that have talked to the RPD investigators and they maintain the position that they believe BB killer CJB. Ross was on their radar but they failed to find the connection he had to CJB, so I would imaging he was never very high on their list.

My opinion as to why RPD would continue to place BB high on their list would be 2 simple reasons:

1) Current investigators are not re-examining evidence from an old cold case, so the position of the past investigators is passed down.

2) For RPD to admit that BB is likely not the perp, would be like saying – we have no prime suspect, AND WE ARE BACK TO SQUARE ONE, AFTER 50 YEARS.

 
Posted : June 6, 2017 9:04 pm
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But it has been 50 years. I would say, it’s obvious they have no prime suspect.

They have been, quite recently, examining old evidence in the case. New investigators were recently on the cover of a magazine talking about new DNA testing–in regards to Cheri’s case. Whether they got anything is yet to be made public.

I have no doubt there were people in the RPD, at one point, high on their suspect. There always seems to be someone departments are drawn to…in any criminal case, and they are often proven wrong.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : June 6, 2017 9:23 pm
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Eric, we have recently been made aware of Ross’ possible relation to both the Cheri Jo Bates homicide and rumored connections to the Zodiac. I will tell you both my father and I are in law enforcement and have had contact with the current investigators in California, one of which seemed to quickly dismiss Ross’ connection, we went as far offering to have a cousin supply DNA for comparison.

This is very good news. It would be great if they were sent some kind of synopsis as to why we suspect Ross, the information that brought him to our attention and things we have learned about him in past few years.

 
Posted : June 6, 2017 11:50 pm
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I’m working on getting some information people who went to Binghamton Central. I can get ahold of 1962 Binghamton Central yearbook, but I’m angling for a 1959 yearbook as I should be able to talk to some family friends who were at Binghamton Central when Ross was there.

On a side note there was someone(IIRC Steven Forbes) who committed murder who graduated from 1962 class.

 
Posted : June 12, 2017 8:30 pm
Israelite Wolfman
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Ross Sullivan, despite fitting the Pual Stine murderer’s sketch, was 6’2" tall while "zodiac" was 5’11" at best (Michael Megeau said he was 5’8"-5’9").

That’s my poi: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=4009

 
Posted : June 12, 2017 10:27 pm
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I’m working on getting some information people who went to Binghamton Central. I can get ahold of 1962 Binghamton Central yearbook, but I’m angling for a 1959 yearbook as I should be able to talk to some family friends who were at Binghamton Central when Ross was there.

On a side note there was someone(IIRC Steven Forbes) who committed murder who graduated from 1962 class.

There is a 1959 Binghamton Central yearbook at Ancestry.com, if you do not have an account there maybe I can help you find people.

Check your PM’s.

www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com

 
Posted : June 12, 2017 11:00 pm
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Ross Sullivan, despite fitting the Pual Stine murderer’s sketch, was 6’2" tall while "zodiac" was 5’11" at best (Michael Megeau said he was 5’8"-5’9").

There’s more that fits Ross than doesn’t so height alone is NOT going to be a deterrent.

*Stocky, barrel chested, overweight,heavyset,and having a widow’s peak hairline…all match. Looks like the sketch, YES. Was in the RCC Library where Zodiac’s writing was found, YES. As a matter of fact, the mystery guy seen at Lake Berryessa(who does not look like Ross or the SF Zodiac sketch in my opinion)is a POI and he was as tall as 6ft2

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : June 13, 2017 7:17 am
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I like it, I go away to Crimecon and come back to some cool Ross stuff going on! Good stuff

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : June 13, 2017 7:18 am
Israelite Wolfman
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Ross Sullivan, despite fitting the Pual Stine murderer’s sketch, was 6’2" tall while "zodiac" was 5’11" at best (Michael Megeau said he was 5’8"-5’9").

There’s more that fits Ross than doesn’t so height alone is NOT going to be a deterrent.

*Stocky, barrel chested, overweight,heavyset,and having a widow’s peak hairline…all match. Looks like the sketch, YES. Was in the RCC Library where Zodiac’s writing was found, YES. As a matter of fact, the mystery guy seen at Lake Berryessa(who does not look like Ross or the SF Zodiac sketch in my opinion)is a POI and he was as tall as 6ft2

The mysterious guy (who was probably just a weirdo pervert "watcher") from Lake Berryessa may have been there on the same day by coincidence, and he was described as 6 foot tall not 6’2". I can’t imagine a person’s height can be so misjudged that he will go from being 6’2" in real life to being mistaken for a short guy.

That’s my poi: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=4009

 
Posted : June 13, 2017 8:36 am
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Ross Sullivan, despite fitting the Pual Stine murderer’s sketch, was 6’2" tall while "zodiac" was 5’11" at best (Michael Megeau said he was 5’8"-5’9").

There’s more that fits Ross than doesn’t so height alone is NOT going to be a deterrent.

*Stocky, barrel chested, overweight,heavyset,and having a widow’s peak hairline…all match. Looks like the sketch, YES. Was in the RCC Library where Zodiac’s writing was found, YES. As a matter of fact, the mystery guy seen at Lake Berryessa(who does not look like Ross or the SF Zodiac sketch in my opinion)is a POI and he was as tall as 6ft2

The mysterious guy (who was probably just a weirdo pervert "watcher") from Lake Berryessa may have been there on the same day by coincidence, and he was described as 6 foot tall not 6’2". I can’t imagine a person’s height can be so misjudged that he will go from being 6’2" in real life to being mistaken for a short guy.

This has been discussed at length several times. A list of "problems" with Ross as Z can be found here… http://zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=106&t=3138

 
Posted : June 13, 2017 5:18 pm
Paul_Averly
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This has been discussed at length several times. A list of "problems" with Ross as Z can be found here… http://zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=106&t=3138

Reminder that this is the timeline thread.

Please keep repeating the same points over and over here:
viewtopic.php?f=106&t=3138

 
Posted : June 14, 2017 6:08 am
morf13
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Ross Sullivan, despite fitting the Pual Stine murderer’s sketch, was 6’2" tall while "zodiac" was 5’11" at best (Michael Megeau said he was 5’8"-5’9").

There’s more that fits Ross than doesn’t so height alone is NOT going to be a deterrent.

*Stocky, barrel chested, overweight,heavyset,and having a widow’s peak hairline…all match. Looks like the sketch, YES. Was in the RCC Library where Zodiac’s writing was found, YES. As a matter of fact, the mystery guy seen at Lake Berryessa(who does not look like Ross or the SF Zodiac sketch in my opinion)is a POI and he was as tall as 6ft2

The mysterious guy (who was probably just a weirdo pervert "watcher") from Lake Berryessa may have been there on the same day by coincidence, and he was described as 6 foot tall not 6’2". I can’t imagine a person’s height can be so misjudged that he will go from being 6’2" in real life to being mistaken for a short guy.

NO, you are incorrect, his height was described as being as tall as 6ft2.

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : June 15, 2017 2:46 pm
Israelite Wolfman
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NO, you are incorrect, his height was described as being as tall as 6ft2.

Bruh, the police report said "6 foot tall", you’re confusing stuff, and even if he was 6’2", he couldn’t be the "zodiac" who was described as a short/stocky guy standing at 5’8"-5’11" (Cecillia Shepard said maybe an inch or two taller than the 5’10" officer which will be 6 foot, not 6’2"), hence it’s not Ross Sullivan or anyone at his height UNLESS there was more than one "zodiac" = team of killers.

That’s my poi: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=4009

 
Posted : June 15, 2017 6:31 pm
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