Maybe there was a 4th brother that died at an early age?

I got a new idea about Ross..same in the Dubree thread, however it’s better placed here:

We do know that, at the CJB crime scene, two people had been looking for the Timex with their flashlights.

What is important, IMO, is that the name ‘Ross Sullivan‘ actually shows up TWICE in one and the same homicide case: On the one hand, Ross Sullivan was a suspect defined by the RCC library employees. They clearly identified him as a suspect as ‘there are a half dozen or so of us at RCC that agree on a suspect’. Then, on the other hand, Morf finds out that Ross Sullivan was in fact (in-)directly connected to Cheri Jo Bates herself. Through ‘Dannelle Sirrine‘ who ‘was good friends with Ross’s Sister in law Bonnie‘. These are two completely different things directing towards Ross Sullivan.

Back to the basics..there is a high school with approximately 1,500 students. CJB is killed, although another woman could have easily been the victim (link below). Instead the guy is waiting for her to get out of the library walking to her VW, then he kills her and later sends letters to her father and others. He even (possibly) confesses and mentions some ‘brush offs’ he had received earlier.

Then, the Riverside City College (RCC) library employees set up a letter in which they blame a certain guy – one out of a few hundred – as him likely being the killer of CJB. This guy, Ross Sullivan, had limited ‘spelling and grammatical’ skills and, if that wouldn’t be enough, had claimed to having escaped out of Patton Mental State Hospital (link below). And now, exactly this same weirdo, as if it was a matter of course, has a sister in law who is ‘good friends‘ with the victims’ friend herself, Dannelle Sirrine?

I do believe in accidential events, but let’s see what we got here:

– Ross does match the Zodiac sketch, including his barrel chest, round face, widow’s peak (pomp?) hair style and his black heavily rimmed glasses.
– RCC library employees name Ross Sullivan as a primary suspect in a written statement (correct?)
– Another suspect shows up, Bob Barnett, who had argued with CJB earlier and had ‘sniffingly’ confessed to her murder the early next morning (the witness took a polygraph). Although he did not complete a polygraph by himself, Bob Barnett is sooner or later getting cleared by DNA results – a circumstance he could not have known at that time. ‘Bob Barnett’, possibly a co-perpetrator being afraid of conviction, might have regretted what had happened and had not necessarily any contact with the body of CJB during the attack. However, it might have been his Timex watch two men later had been looking for with their flashlights.
– According to ‘Bud Kelly’, Bob Barnett had recently been painting the house of his parents. He is also missing when the crime is reconstructed (correct?)
– This ‘Bob Barnett’ (real name Bill Bennett) has a friend, who may (or may not) have been Ross Sullivan. This ‘friend’ can be described as a major suspect in the case and, in fact, fails a polygraph test (link below). For unknown reasons, this friend is not officially accused with the murder of CJB. Mental insanity could have been a reason for that, and, Riverside Police eventually claims that they do know who had killed CJB.
– Ross Sullivan, no matter if being this particular friend of ‘Bob Barnett’ or not, is then in a second way connected to Cheri Jo Bates. According to Morf, Ross Sullivan can be tied to CJB’s friend Dannelle Sirrine (verification?)
– Three years later, the crimes continue in Vallejo.

If I count one and one together, I’d say that Ross Sullivan was very likely the friend of ‘Bob Barnett’.

QT

Library letter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEMkdsHz2X4 (thx2Morf)
Man waiting for CJB:
http://www.zodiackiller.com/BatesDNA.html (thx2Tom)
Bob Barnett painting house:
viewtopic.php?f=33&t=659&p=4409&hilit=barnett#p4409

If I count one and one together, I’d say that Ross Sullivan was very likely the friend of ‘Bob Barnett’.

QT

That is an interesting idea QT. Only issue is supposedly Bob’s friend came forward around 1980, give or take a few years. By that point in time Ross was either dead or very much incapacitated.

If I count one and one together, I’d say that Ross Sullivan was very likely the friend of ‘Bob Barnett’.

QT

That is an interesting idea QT. Only issue is supposedly Bob’s friend came forward around 1980, give or take a few years. By that point in time Ross was either dead or very much incapacitated.

That’s interesting..do we know who this guy is/was? Is there any article about that? I think it’s not the worst idea to look around in that area of the case..

QT

ZK.com claims it was the early 1990’s.

In the early 1990s, Barnett’s former best friend finally admitted that he had seen Barnett the morning of Oct. 31, 1966. He had "accidentally" run into Barnett about 2:30 a.m. at a restaurant called "The Green Turtle." Barnett had asked him for a ride to RCC in order to look for something he had misplaced.

Yeah thanks about the info of the brothers being 3 and not 4, I came across the mother’s article stating there were only 3 sons. Kind of makes me wonder if only the Father had another son with another woman, after he went to live in New York where he later died, That would make sense and also to what Morf had said about a possible Younger 4th brother, in which the last article I had uploaded stated

I also noticed a while back as well, just like some of you did, that Ross Sullivan’s Death Certificate clearly states he was living in Santa Cruz Ca, for only 3 years. It would have to be from 1975 to 1977 till he past away, also give or take a later part of 1974.

Wanted to ask a Question :: was 1974 the last confirmed year Zodiac was ever heard from again??

I had to make an Edit here, but someone on here had posted the photo address search way earlier this year, when not much was still known about Ross. I’m wondering if anything turned up or have they been confirmed not to be Ross previous locations

I had to Update this post: The previous info I had here seems to have been wrong so its now been Edited. Thanks

I also noticed a while back as well, just like some of you did, that Ross Sullivan’s Death Certificate clearly states he was living in Santa Cruz Ca, for only 3 years. It would have to be from 1975 to 1977 till he past away, also give or take a later part of 1974.

Wanted to ask a Question :: was 1974 the last confirmed year Zodiac was ever heard from again??

I also started searching for previous addresses on Ross and came up with the same previous locations as someone on here had posted way earlier this year, when not much was still known about Ross. I didn’t want it to just end there. So I made my own map

The one photo you included here shows a previous address of Napa for Ross. That’s a different Ross Sullivan, it’s important to point out. By the way, which background svc did you use that showed that result? Does the Death certificate say he lived in Santa Cruz for 3 yrs, or at that address for 3 yrs?

Thanks for replying Morf,
yeah I went by that same photo up there, which had been posted on here earlier in this year that shows Ross birthdate on there and previous locations. Can you tell me if they turned up wrong? and I still want to figure the YMCA locations for those years. but If my post is wrong I can delete or please feel free to delete it for me, I don’t mind if you do

but yeah the death certificate does say 3 years, whether he lived in Santa Cruz for 3 yrs, or at that address for 3 yrs. I’ll check if I know anyone with a certificate on hand to see exactly what that box is asking about the 3 years.

hey Morf,
A friend of mine checked his own relatives death certificate just to see what exactly the question is asking, the question is " how many years in County" .

Anyway In Ross Death certificate we see a 3 and yeah on top of that it reads " Length of stay in County of " , also next to it states 20 and its asking how many years in the state of California . Thanks

hey Morf,
A friend of mine checked his own relatives death certificate just to see what exactly the question is asking, the question is " how many years in County" .

Anyway In Ross Death certificate we see a 3 and yeah on top of that it reads " Length of stay in County of " , also next to it states 20 and its asking how many years in the state of California . Thanks

I’m pretty sure Ross was in a mental institution between 1971 to end of 1973 or early 1974. So, either way, that would be consistent with him living both in that home and in Santa Cruz for only 3 years. He was still likely under a conservatorship from 1974 to 1977 though as that covered "care facilities" which Ross was in.

JeffP ,
Wow thanks Jeff thats interesting. Do they have any information down to confirm that Ross was? . Honestly I think his health started getting worse in his later years as well, starting at 1970-71

Also I have a few Questions if anyone can please answer:

Ross brother Jonathan is an Author , is he also a photographer ??

Is Jonathan’s middle name Gilbert like in Gilbert & Sullivan or is just some name like Gerard or a Gerald ??

Can anyone recommend good services to search more addresses on Ross ?? I usually don’t buy into any of them but I want some good ones if I plan to. I’m still trying to find that last search

JeffP ,
Wow thanks Jeff thats interesting. Do they have any information down to confirm that Ross was? . Honestly I think his health started getting worse in his later years as well, starting at 1970-71

Also I have a few Questions if anyone can please answer:

Ross brother Jonathan is an Author , is he also a photographer ??

Is Jonathan’s middle name Gilbert like in Gilbert & Sullivan or is just some name like Gerard or a Gerald ??

Can anyone recommend good services to search more addresses on Ross ?? I usually don’t buy into any of them but I want some good ones if I plan to. I’m still trying to find that last search

1. We know he was put under a conservatorship through Morf’s private eye contact. Ross likely was on the radar of the California mental health officials after his 1968 arrest. He was picked up on the afternoon of Feb 5th 1968 naked and in a "dazed trance" harrassing some guy in a phone booth. It required several police to subdue him. He was put on a 72 hour hold after that and this was likely extended to a 14 day hold at the hospital. The problem was that many California laws were changing around this time regarding how to handle mental health patients. So Ross was not "permanently" institutionalized until it was legally feasible to do so which happened in 1971. At this point he was institutionalized. In late 1973 a court ruled you couldn’t hold someone in a mental institution indefinitely if they had not committed a crime. So Ross was likely released at this point and put into the care facility where he stayed until he died.

2. I believe Ross’ brother Jon was a photographer. I think he contributed photos and photo essays to several books.

3. Jon’s middle name is Gray.

Jon is a photographer, but not really an author. The book he did, "Berkeley One and Only," is a photo book.

http://berkeleyoneandonly.com/

There is an audio interview with Jon on that site.