That’s interesting.

BTW, just as a point of fact:

The Tim Sullivan under consideration lived at 25 Baker St. That address is only about a block away from Darlene Ferrin’s ex husband Jim Phillips, who lived at 973 Haight St (according to the Dave Peterson letter to Toschi: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s1/sh/dc … 13ccd36d37)

@37.7714185,-122.4417202,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x808580ae9f021c4b:0xb971bbe3192a7001!2m2!1d-122.440862!2d37.771606!1m5!1m1!1s0x808580a8d58c590b:0xc9d7389e85e5ba4b!2m2!1d-122.438201!2d37.7708749!3e1″>(Google Maps)

Great work!

Do we know what Tim was up to around that time? Was he a student? And what college?

He’s also close to USF and the Presentation theater, where The Mikado played in 1969. (Yellow Book pg 156)

Interesting developments for sure

Draft lottery was held on December 8th, 1969. So can we assume that Timothy left right away? How long after did they have to report for induction? I can’t imagine he stuck around too long after that, since he would have been arrested. Might this explain the Melvin Belli letter of December 20th, 1969 when Zodiac seemed to be asking for help? After his brother left, he had nowhere else to go.

That was when he likely returned to Santa Cruz.

Also can’t help but wonder if Tim left in part due to some incriminating connection to Ross’ activities, if Ross was indeed Z.

Hope that this latest attempt to get more info about Ross yields some helpful clues & info

I’m officially striking out with Bonnie. I tried calling her a couple of weeks ago and got no response. I didn’t want to keep pushing, so I waited about a week. Then I contacted her again late last week and again nothing. I called earlier this week and left a message and nothing still. I don’t want to harass her so we might have to come up with another plan.

Thanks for the attempts, Jeff. It is really appreciated. We can’t force people to talk about what they don’t want to talk about.

Jeff, thanks for trying. This is turning out to be very frustrating.

I had a feeling she’d be less than willing to help, given that her brothers were and she seems the type of person who is paranoid of outsiders. I wonder if there is another way to contact her and get her to listen to us? I don’t want to just keep calling her over and over. Does anyone have an email address?

Have you considered contacting her co-authors and/or colleagues? For example: Dr. Roumiana Ilieva is an associate professor at the same university Bonnie worked for:

http://link.springer.com/article/10.100 … -6#/page-1

https://www.sfu.ca/education/faculty-pr … lieva.html

I had a feeling she’d be less than willing to help, given that her brothers were and she seems the type of person who is paranoid of outsiders. I wonder if there is another way to contact her and get her to listen to us? I don’t want to just keep calling her over and over. Does anyone have an email address?

It is quite unusual for people who really know things to talk. Family members almost always stick together. With the Ted K. case, I think his brother didn’t like him very much and that is the reason he turned him in. I watched the story about the Moors Murders. The mother of the woman involved in the murders didn’t want the sister to testify against her other daughter. Most people who are in the know, really do not care about the victims of these serial killers. They just want to protect their families reputation and save their family members any grief. The police are typically not to be trusted, as people feel intimidated by these people. I know myself, that if I knew a friend or family member who killed people I would not tell a soul. I wouldn’t want anybody to know I was associated with killers. Also, does anybody really like a tattletale?

It is quite unusual for people who really know things to talk. Family members almost always stick together. With the Ted K. case, I think his brother didn’t like him very much and that is the reason he turned him in. I watched the story about the Moors Murders. The mother of the woman involved in the murders didn’t want the sister to testify against her other daughter. Most people who are in the know, really do not care about the victims of these serial killers. They just want to protect their families reputation and save their family members any grief. The police are typically not to be trusted, as people feel intimidated by these people. I know myself, that if I knew a friend or family member who killed people I would not tell a soul. I wouldn’t want anybody to know I was associated with killers. Also, does anybody really like a tattletale?

I am just guessing here, but I think that is why suspicion increases. If you truly knot to your bones he is innocent, all it takes is one date, one time Ross wasn’t able to kill cause he was in a hospital. Obviously, I cannot say what I would do or feel under the same circumstances, but I think if I had unambiguous truth of innocence, I would release it.

Of course, there is always the concern that our community all says, ok, that was someone else, but what about there rest?

And I don’t know about Ted K’s brother’s feelings, but there us also a point where if you know a family member is ill and committing murder that you know needs to stop. Or, assuming its Ross, since he passed away, you just want it to be gone, too. No more harm can be done by his hands.

I can have my own theory for her and the family’s silence, but what would you do? Tough call, even if you have the tiniest bit of doubt.

-m

It is quite unusual for people who really know things to talk. Family members almost always stick together. With the Ted K. case, I think his brother didn’t like him very much and that is the reason he turned him in. I watched the story about the Moors Murders. The mother of the woman involved in the murders didn’t want the sister to testify against her other daughter. Most people who are in the know, really do not care about the victims of these serial killers. They just want to protect their families reputation and save their family members any grief. The police are typically not to be trusted, as people feel intimidated by these people. I know myself, that if I knew a friend or family member who killed people I would not tell a soul. I wouldn’t want anybody to know I was associated with killers. Also, does anybody really like a tattletale?

I am just guessing here, but I think that is why suspicion increases. If you truly knot to your bones he is innocent, all it takes is one date, one time Ross wasn’t able to kill cause he was in a hospital. Obviously, I cannot say what I would do or feel under the same circumstances, but I think if I had unambiguous truth of innocence, I would release it.

Of course, there is always the concern that our community all says, ok, that was someone else, but what about there rest?

And I don’t know about Ted K’s brother’s feelings, but there us also a point where if you know a family member is ill and committing murder that you know needs to stop. Or, assuming its Ross, since he passed away, you just want it to be gone, too. No more harm can be done by his hands.

I can have my own theory for her and the family’s silence, but what would you do? Tough call, even if you have the tiniest bit of doubt.

-m

If their family member was innocent you can bet the house that they would be telling the world about it. It does make you wonder about them.

It is quite unusual for people who really know things to talk. Family members almost always stick together. With the Ted K. case, I think his brother didn’t like him very much and that is the reason he turned him in. I watched the story about the Moors Murders. The mother of the woman involved in the murders didn’t want the sister to testify against her other daughter. Most people who are in the know, really do not care about the victims of these serial killers. They just want to protect their families reputation and save their family members any grief. The police are typically not to be trusted, as people feel intimidated by these people. I know myself, that if I knew a friend or family member who killed people I would not tell a soul. I wouldn’t want anybody to know I was associated with killers. Also, does anybody really like a tattletale?

I am just guessing here, but I think that is why suspicion increases. If you truly knot to your bones he is innocent, all it takes is one date, one time Ross wasn’t able to kill cause he was in a hospital. Obviously, I cannot say what I would do or feel under the same circumstances, but I think if I had unambiguous truth of innocence, I would release it.

Of course, there is always the concern that our community all says, ok, that was someone else, but what about there rest?

And I don’t know about Ted K’s brother’s feelings, but there us also a point where if you know a family member is ill and committing murder that you know needs to stop. Or, assuming its Ross, since he passed away, you just want it to be gone, too. No more harm can be done by his hands.

I can have my own theory for her and the family’s silence, but what would you do? Tough call, even if you have the tiniest bit of doubt.

-m

If their family member was innocent you can bet the house that they would be telling the world about it. It does make you wonder about them.

I know some disagree, but I think the way the family acts seems to suggest at the very least they think he might be guilty. It’s obvious to see why he’d be a person of interest considering his mental illness background, his ties to the RCC library and the fact his brother was married to Cheri’s best friend. By itself, this would make anyone curious about Ross. Take into account that Timothy likely believed Ross had killed Cheri, there’s a lot of smoke there.

The fact that the family refuses to talk, even though they must by now know a bunch of people are looking into Ross on an internet site, is suspicious by itself.

Perhaps they could face accessory after the fact, if they helped cover up these crimes. I think they are afraid of this fact if they tell what they know. Because it is a murder case there are no statue of limitations.

It is quite unusual for people who really know things to talk. Family members almost always stick together. With the Ted K. case, I think his brother didn’t like him very much and that is the reason he turned him in. I watched the story about the Moors Murders. The mother of the woman involved in the murders didn’t want the sister to testify against her other daughter. Most people who are in the know, really do not care about the victims of these serial killers. They just want to protect their families reputation and save their family members any grief. The police are typically not to be trusted, as people feel intimidated by these people. I know myself, that if I knew a friend or family member who killed people I would not tell a soul. I wouldn’t want anybody to know I was associated with killers. Also, does anybody really like a tattletale?

I am just guessing here, but I think that is why suspicion increases. If you truly knot to your bones he is innocent, all it takes is one date, one time Ross wasn’t able to kill cause he was in a hospital. Obviously, I cannot say what I would do or feel under the same circumstances, but I think if I had unambiguous truth of innocence, I would release it.

Of course, there is always the concern that our community all says, ok, that was someone else, but what about there rest?

And I don’t know about Ted K’s brother’s feelings, but there us also a point where if you know a family member is ill and committing murder that you know needs to stop. Or, assuming its Ross, since he passed away, you just want it to be gone, too. No more harm can be done by his hands.

I can have my own theory for her and the family’s silence, but what would you do? Tough call, even if you have the tiniest bit of doubt.

-m

If it was American’s Most Wanted or 20/20 who came a knockin’…I’d certainly be more apt to provide information. When unknowns from some message board (or random nobody) makes contact…not so much.

I am honestly not sure why some find it mysterious. Some people are talkers and some are not. This was almost 50 years ago. Some take silence as a form of conspiracy, some take it as being private or someone with nothing to offer.

And for the record–if I knew of a family member or friend who killed people…I’d tell in a heartbeat.