NEW UPDATE:

Found in the Kaczynski cabin, and despite my letters at the time to the FBI that this should be retained, and checked for DNA, it was sold at auction. This is a BLACK hood with rectangular eye slits.

Compare it to the hood Zodiac wore at Lake Berryessa, as sketched by Robert Graysmith, based on interviews with Bryan Hartnell:

At the Stine shooting in San Francisco, Zodiac was reported to be wearing glasses, IIRC described as black regular glasses. Ted K did not need to wear glasses to see, but a neighbor states that he did regularly wear glasses to protect his eyes from the elements.

Neighbors Dave Waits and Chris Shor write in their book that:

" Ted had several pairs of glasses; all protective in nature, needed to keep wind, rain, dust, sleet or snow – depending on the season – out of his eyes. Sometimes when riding his bike he wore a full, dark, rimmed pair that looked like reading glasses, or corrective lenses, but he didn’t need glasses to see."

Of course Ted also wore sunglasses as the Unabomber, as a disguise method, to cover his eyes, part of his face and break up the face, as well as for protection against the elements.

So he could have very well been wearing glasses, if he was the Zodiac, the night that Paul Stine was killed, both as a method of disguise and a way to protect the eyes from the elements.

Whoever Zodiac was, I think it’s unlikely that he needed prescription glasses to see. Mageau reports that Zodiac was not wearing any glasses.

See Unabomber: The Secret Life of Ted Kaczynski, page 42.

This is the San Francisco Zodiac sketch (1969) and a picture of Ted Kaczynski at UC Berkeley (1968), with glasses added on.

I am sure this has been asked before …. but since I can’t find it I thought that I would ask it again. Has Bryan Hartnell ever been shown this picture to see if these clothes could be a match for what Z was wearing the day of their attack?

On the huge Ross Sullivan thread there are pictures of what the Z jacket may have looked like from the descriptions that we have available.

Ted looks to be wearing a very similar jacket. This wouldn’t be anything of value IMO since many people probably had a jacket like this. (Although now that I am thinking about that statement – I think that it has been mentioned several times that the clothes Z wore actually seemed a bit out of style for the time) …

The reason that I find this picture so "important" is because I would think that Ted didn’t have much of a wardrobe…yet he had a very similar Z jacket among his clothing.

Just a thought. It would be interesting to hear what Hartnell would say about this jacket that Ted is wearing.

Pants are also possibly pleated and dark as well which fits in with the description. They certainly look to be dress pants-ish to me. Wish I could see his shoes!

Honestly I am blind from reading this sight for the last few days! Do I remember correctly that the Stine murder and the Hartnell incident BOTH gave a description of basically the same jacket? One said dark pants (Hartnell I believe) and at Stine they were rust colored pants ….. but same jacket??

Also note that 49 years ago in the 27th week of 1969, Ted resigned from Berkeley on
Monday (6-30-69) and Friday night(7-4-69)/Saturday morning (7-5-69) of that SAME WEEK

Darlene Ferrin and Michael Mageau were gunned down at Blue Rock Springs (a 38 min drive from Kaczynski’s residence). Ferrin later dying from her wounds, while Mageau survived.

At the time, the chairman of the mathematics department, J. W. Addison, called Kaczynski’s resignation "sudden and unexpected"…

Yes!! TK IMO was in a whirlwind of emotions and thoughts at the time he left. I watched a documentary today that talked about how paranoid he was becoming. He would sit alone in his room and look out the window. Couples would walk by and he would see them laughing. He thought they were laughing at him. (I am paraphrasing from what his brother said on the show). The show is called "How It Really Happened". (EDITED to show the correct name of the show)

So I can absolutely imagine that TK could have eased his own pain at that time by lashing out and causing pain to others.

Also note that 49 years ago in the 27th week of 1969, Ted resigned from Berkeley on
Monday (6-30-69) and Friday night(7-4-69)/Saturday morning (7-5-69) of that SAME WEEK

Darlene Ferrin and Michael Mageau were gunned down at Blue Rock Springs (a 38 min drive from Kaczynski’s residence). Ferrin later dying from her wounds, while Mageau survived.

At the time, the chairman of the mathematics department, J. W. Addison, called Kaczynski’s resignation "sudden and unexpected"…

Yes Jelberg the timing is very interesting. He makes a life altering change, leaving mathematics and quitting his job, cutting ties, now a free and independent man, and four days later two people are killed in the first crime acknowledged to be done by the Zodiac. It was the second confirmed Z crime, but it marked the birth of the Zodiac persona.

Mathematics Department Chairman Addison later commented on it: But for some reason, he grew tired of mathematics and abruptly resigned from the university on June 30, 1969, a move that was "quite out of the blue," Addison wrote to Kaczynski’s thesis supervisor at the University of Michigan.

I am sure this has been asked before …. but since I can’t find it I thought that I would ask it again. Has Bryan Hartnell ever been shown this picture to see if these clothes could be a match for what Z was wearing the day of their attack?

On the huge Ross Sullivan thread there are pictures of what the Z jacket may have looked like from the descriptions that we have available.

Ted looks to be wearing a very similar jacket. This wouldn’t be anything of value IMO since many people probably had a jacket like this. (Although now that I am thinking about that statement – I think that it has been mentioned several times that the clothes Z wore actually seemed a bit out of style for the time) …

The reason that I find this picture so "important" is because I would think that Ted didn’t have much of a wardrobe…yet he had a very similar Z jacket among his clothing.

Just a thought. It would be interesting to hear what Hartnell would say about this jacket that Ted is wearing.

Good observations and questions Margie. As far as I know, neither Hartnell or SFPD Officer Don Fouke have ever been shows pictures of TK to see if they can identify him as the Zodiac they saw up close and personal, be it for clothes and jacket (Hartnell) or face, hair and jacket (Fouke).

Just re-read the description that Bryan Hartnell gave regarding what Zodiac was wearing.

"…Man wore a light weight blue-black windbreaker over a reddish-black wool shirt…"

At the Stine murder scene, Zodiac was also described wearing a "dark blue waist length zipper type jacket (navy or royal blue)".

Ted did own a navy blue windbreaker and a dark blue waist length zipper jacket.

The items above fit the pattern of "Things Zodiac had that were also found in Ted Kaczynski’s cabin". These include boxes of Winchester .22 Super X ammo (Zodiac used this brand and specific type of ammo at LHR 68 {and SB 63}), a gun with a flashlight strapped to the barrel (Zodiac bragged about using this method to see and shoot in the dark) and a hand made black hood with a flat top and rectangluar eye slits (Zodiac used at LB 69). Ted had all of these items in his cabin.

I am sure this has been asked before …. but since I can’t find it I thought that I would ask it again. Has Bryan Hartnell ever been shown this picture to see if these clothes could be a match for what Z was wearing the day of their attack?

On the huge Ross Sullivan thread there are pictures of what the Z jacket may have looked like from the descriptions that we have available.

Ted looks to be wearing a very similar jacket. This wouldn’t be anything of value IMO since many people probably had a jacket like this. (Although now that I am thinking about that statement – I think that it has been mentioned several times that the clothes Z wore actually seemed a bit out of style for the time) …

The reason that I find this picture so "important" is because I would think that Ted didn’t have much of a wardrobe…yet he had a very similar Z jacket among his clothing.

Just a thought. It would be interesting to hear what Hartnell would say about this jacket that Ted is wearing.

Good observations and questions Margie. As far as I know, neither Hartnell or SFPD Officer Don Fouke have ever been shows pictures of TK to see if they can identify him as the Zodiac they saw up close and personal, be it for clothes and jacket (Hartnell) or face, hair and jacket (Fouke).

I’d bet money on it that they have all seen pics of Ted K but both the pics of Ted K wearing two different blue jackets perhaps not. It would be wonderful if the pictures could be shown to them and get their opinion on the record!

Just re-read the description that Bryan Hartnell gave regarding what Zodiac was wearing.

"…Man wore a light weight blue-black windbreaker over a reddish-black wool shirt…"

At the Stine murder scene, Zodiac was also described wearing a "dark blue waist length zipper type jacket (navy or royal blue)".

Ted did own a navy blue windbreaker and a dark blue waist length zipper jacket.

The items above fit the pattern of "Things Zodiac had that were also found in Ted Kaczynski’s cabin". These include boxes of Winchester .22 Super X ammo (Zodiac used this brand and specific type of ammo at LHR 68 {and SB 63}), a gun with a flashlight strapped to the barrel (Zodiac bragged about using this mathod to see and shoot in the dark) and a hand made black hood with a flat top and rectangluar eye slits (Zodiac used at LB 69). Ted had all of these items in his cabin.

And WOW – I had no idea that TK had a gun with a flashlight attached in his belongings! I’ve seen the incredibly terrifying hoods though and scroll past them very quickly when I see them on this site…lol. I do know that TK also had a embroidery hoop in his belongings in that cabin which is interesting in light of the Z symbol sewn on the front of his costume.

I still can’t imagine why LE doesn’t see TK as a viable suspect. There just cannot be this many coincidences between two individuals! Perhaps if they dug TK’s blue jacket out of the evidence locker and tested it for DNA …. or was that auctioned off with all his other items?

I still can’t imagine why LE doesn’t see TK as a viable suspect. There just cannot be this many coincidences between two individuals! Perhaps if they dug TK’s blue jacket out of the evidence locker and tested it for DNA …. or was that auctioned off with all his other items?

Couldn’t catch him for 20 years… and now he is in prison for life… Why would they want that egg on their face? Not to mention the whole Murray episode at Harvard, which I’m sure has been downplayed and the full extent has been kept quiet.

And there is ZERO possibility they would admit to having a hand in creating (intentional or not) the monster that Z was.

When Z said he was "crack-proof," he may not have been talking about his ciphers….. He may have been talking about himself. Because, if he was TK, they did in fact try to crack him psychologically.

I still can’t imagine why LE doesn’t see TK as a viable suspect. There just cannot be this many coincidences between two individuals! Perhaps if they dug TK’s blue jacket out of the evidence locker and tested it for DNA …. or was that auctioned off with all his other items?

Couldn’t catch him for 20 years… and now he is in prison for life… Why would they want that egg on their face? Not to mention the whole Murray episode at Harvard, which I’m sure has been downplayed and the full extent has been kept quiet.

I get it Jelberg. I KNOW you are right…..but it would be SO wonderful for the families if just ONE officer/ fbi agent would do the right thing for the families. They could at least test TK’s DNA and keep the testing quiet until it is confirmed or denied whether it was TK or not. SAD!

Why has it been so difficult to get the FBI to aggressively investigate Ted Kaczynski for the Zodiac Killer and Tylenol Murders cases?

Is the truth simply that the FBI does not want to have it come out that an amateur, or small group of amateurs, was able to solve a crime that they were not able to solve? That it would be an embarrassing revelation that a man they’ve had in their custody for 20 years was In fact responsible for two major crime sprees, and that they were unable to put together the facts to prove that?

Very soon I’m going to post on the Tylenol case, what my experiences were on it, and the overwhelming amount of evidence that points to Kaczynski as being a very good suspect for that case. His family home was within 20 minutes of all the stores that sold tainted Tylenol, and that’s just one of many facts pointing to him as the likely perpetrator.

When I first contacted the FBI in 2009, there was skepticism at first, but when I provided all the evidence to the FBI, I felt like the two agents I was speaking to understood it, were seriously interested, treated me with respect and asked good questions.

And the initial follow through by the FBI was good. They did what they told me they were going to do. They told me that on the basis of the evidence I presented to them, they considered Ted a valid suspect for the Tylenol murders. The FBI said they recovered a partial DNA sample from the Tylenol pills tainted with cyanide. In other words there was DNA material inside a fingerprint smudge , not sure if it was sweat, skin or something else.

They did approach him and ask him to volunteer a DNA sample. Ted flat out refused to volunteer a sample, saying that 3 to 5% of the population can match a partial DNA sample. Which is not true, and sure as hell sounds like something a guilty person would say to avoid giving a DNA sample! The FBI then told the media that they would seek a court order to get the DNA sample.

https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fbi-prob … d=13638602

I was interviewed for a few of the articles. At the time I was hopeful. The FBI seemed to be taking it seriously and moving forward on my information.

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2011 … 705199967/

From the article: True crime author Douglas Oswell and researcher A.K. Wilks are among those who always suspected the Unabomber was connected to the case. They shared their research with the FBI and published it online.

Wilks said he emailed the FBI after the 2009 raid of Lewis’ home, when he "thought they might be going down the wrong road," and ended up speaking at length with two different FBI agents. He also contacted authorities suggesting they stop the auction of Kaczynski’s items, because he thought they might contain valuable evidence.

"The fact that (the FBI) called me twice made me somewhat hopeful," said Wilks. "If the authorities give it a serious look, that’s all you can ask for."

From another article: "I have never even possessed any potassium cyanide," Kaczynski said. "But even on the assumption that the FBI is entirely honest (an assumption I’m unwilling to make), partial DNA profiles can throw suspicion on persons who are entirely innocent. For example, such profiles can show that 5%, or 3%, or 1% of Americans have the same partial profile as the person who committed a certain crime.

And from there the trail goes cold. Once it got up to the higher level the FBI, as far as I know, they just totally backed down. They absolutely caved in, and did not seek a court-ordered warrant to get the DNA. Why did they do that? I don’t know, but I can only speculate that they must have felt that if the DNA matched, and the case was solved, they would not look good for being unable to solve one of the most notorious mass murderers and product tampering poisonings in history.

And it’s confusing because they would get some credit for solving the case now, but I guess that was not enough to outweigh the feeling that they’d be portrayed as stupid or incompetent for being unable to solve a case that an amateur solved. I honestly don’t know the answer.

But the FBI is now out of the picture, and the case has been turned over to local authorities, and I have some reason to believe that I may actually be able to get something done now. A local department is in charge of the case and the FBI is not involved. They can’t put up roadblocks anymore. The priority for the local department is solving the case.

And I think solving the Tylenol Murders case through a DNA match to Kaczynski, if current efforts to obtain Zodiac DNA succeed, will absolutely lead to solving the Zodiac case through a DNA match to Kaczynski.

Why do I say that with a high degree of confidence? Because an indictment of Kaczynski for the Tylenol Murders would bring several huge changes. Until now, it has been very difficult to break through the myth of Kaczynski with most police, FBI, prosecutors, media (Paul Holes was one of the few exceptions). The myth being that he was motivated only by his views and concern for the environment, that he killed reluctantly and only killed by bomb and that he mainly killed by targeting prominent people in technology fields. Indictment for the Tylenol Murders would show he could kill by means other than a bomb, kill ordinary citizens and that he enjoyed killing for personal satisfaction.

It would also change my standing. I have a good relationship with a few in law enforcement, but have had many doors closed in my face. I would go from an just another amateur with an eccentric theory that Kaczynski is the Zodiac to "the guy who helped prove that Kaczynski was the Tylenol Murderer". It would enhance my credibility, the credibility of the case for TK as Z and open doors and avenues previously closed. And finally it would bring TK’s DNA into the system.

The Cheri Jo Bates murder presents some clues that could be suggestive to one of TK’s signature:
1) "Her dream was to be a flight attendant and travel the world": TK hated airplanes and tried to hijack one with a bomb.
2)We know that TK liked to carve wood. "One of the clues was a set of lower case initials, r h, below a macabre poem which was scratched into a desk at Riverside Community College"
3)" It was a ball. I first cut the middle wire from the distributor. Then I waited for her in the library and followed her out after about two minutes. The battery must have been about dead by then. I then offered to help".
Contrary to what many people think, TK owned a car and apparently was literate enough about engines to mess with them as Zodiac did. This sounds kinda funny but the guy in the photo could be someone messing with a distributor:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/ … 4be2328edb

I won’t quote the whole thing. Much of it is already in the first post in this thread. These two paragraphs stood out:

Convicted Unabomber Theodore J. Kaczynski considered having a sex change operation when he was in his twenties and his confusion over his gender identity filled him with a rage that contributed to his bombing spree, according to documents released today.

From Sally Johnson, the government psychiatrist who evaluated Kacynski’s mental competency so stand trial:

The psychiatric report concluded that Kaczynski "has intertwined his two belief systems, that society is bad and he should rebel against it, and his intense anger at his family for his perceived injustices. He talks openly about his ability to direct his anger from one set of ideas to the other fluidly."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1998/09/12/gender-confusion-sex-change-idea-fueled-kaczynskis-rage-report-says/eb33b946-8595-427d-af4c-9ccaada45935/?utm_term=.6e4be2328edb

I won’t quote the whole thing. Much of it is already in the first post in this thread. These two paragraphs stood out:

Convicted Unabomber Theodore J. Kaczynski considered having a sex change operation when he was in his twenties and his confusion over his gender identity filled him with a rage that contributed to his bombing spree, according to documents released today.

From Sally Johnson, the government psychiatrist who evaluated Kacynski’s mental competency so stand trial:

The psychiatric report concluded that Kaczynski "has intertwined his two belief systems, that society is bad and he should rebel against it, and his intense anger at his family for his perceived injustices. He talks openly about his ability to direct his anger from one set of ideas to the other fluidly."

Very good points. Thanks for bringing them up. The other elements that are striking to me include what drove him to seek a sex change operation in the first place. Apparently Ted was living next door to the University of Michigan hockey team, and along with a lot of drinking and loud partying, they also were apparently doing quite well with the ladies on campus.

At this time. Ted reported suffering from what he called "acute sexual starvation." He reports that this was greatly exasperated by the continual sounds of couples next door having sex, which he describes as keeping him awake and driving him mad.

After the failed bid for a sex change, leading to the Breakthrough moment leaving the psychiatrist office where he decides that he will now "really kill" all those he hates, it’s worth noting the people that Zodiac targeted and the people that Ted hated and now said he would really kill. Three of the four confirmed Zodiac attacks were against couples. Two of the couples were in lovers lanes, known spots where couples went to make out or have sex. The other male female couple was laying on a blanket next to a lake.

Given that, it’s worth noting that among the people Ted states that he hates and now will really kill include"noisy" love making "couples", "rowdy college students", "promiscuous" men and especially "promiscuous" women, who are just "animals", "pigs".

The other thing worth noting is when Ted states that he started his acts of violence. The first Unabomber crime was in 1978. He wrote the above passages about being able to now "really kill" the people he hated in August or September of 1966. And in the early 1970s, Ted wrote that he had already committed unspecified acts of violence.

Ted wrote in the early 70’s that he did not fit into present-day ociety. He then went on to state that he feared his kind of people, by which the context suggests he meant individualist people who live without technology and hunt and survive off the land, would be eradicated off the face of the Earth. He suggests this will happen by the efforts of the government specifically and the technological ociety generally, including the use of "supercomputers and mind control". He states in the early seventies that this prospect of himself and his type of people being eliminated that has already caused him "to rebel as violently as I have".

Again, the first Unabomber crime did not occur until 1978. Yet the government identifies that he is writing these passages about already "violently" rebelling in the early 1970s. By context, similar ideas and similar word usage, both Doug Oswell and myself feel it is very likely that he wrote those passages in 1971, the time that he also wrote his first essay on the dangers of the technological society.

So when he states that in August / September 1966 that he is now ready to "really kill" those he hates, then states in 1971 that he has already "violently" rebelled against society, it very well matches up that he could be speaking about the murder of Bates in October 1966 and the Zodiac crimes from December 1968 to October 1969.