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Ted’s handwriting always matches except for the number 4

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 egg
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The number 4 is the only character that doesn’t match Zodiac’s handwriting, Ted’s 4 usually has a slant for the upper left stroke, which itself is fairly uncommon.

Except he is inconsistent with this peculiarity and sometimes writes it straight.


So all of his handwriting actually matches Zodiac’s.

The guy is obsessed with ciphers and his frustration permeates all of his writing just like the Zodiac. It’s ridiculous how much this guy matches Zodiac on so many levels beyond any other suspect.

 
Posted : January 17, 2021 8:44 am
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Interesting, i brought this forward on this site. A few years ago a writing expert explained that numerically most people who try to change or alter there writings almost never consider changing numerals. These two have completly different methods of writings of the number four.. Teds is angled and fully enclosed 99%.. Zs is completly open and squared with the down stroke at the very end of the horizontal 99.9%
FWIW

edit .. personal opinion .. teds writing is not Z not even close.

 
Posted : January 17, 2021 1:13 pm
AK Wilks
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Interesting, i brought this forward on this site. A few years ago a writing expert explained that numerically most people who try to change or alter there writings almost never consider changing numerals. These two have completely different methods of writings of the number four.. Teds is angled and fully enclosed 99%.. Z’s is completely open and squared with the down stroke at the very end of the horizontal 99.9%
FWIW

edit .. personal opinion .. teds writing is not Z not even close.

You are entitled to your opinion. But I find your last statement baffling. Comparing the way Zodiac usually wrote the numeral "4" in 1969 with the way Ted K usually wrote the numeral "4" in the 80’s and 90’s, some 20 to 30 years later, and deciding that alone is the determining factor, to the exclusion of the way Zodiac writing and Ted K writing on the 26 letters of the alphabet is an incredible match, virtually indistinguishable… Doesn’t make much sense to me.

Egg, I think your observations are interesting. And I agree with your overall conclusions, "So all of his handwriting actually matches Zodiac’s. The guy is obsessed with ciphers and his frustration permeates all of his writing just like the Zodiac. It’s ridiculous how much this guy matches Zodiac on so many levels beyond any other suspect."

For Mr lowe and other skeptics, I would say look at the excellent work done by Marclean in comparing the writing of Zodiac and Ted K.

AK Wilks:

Marcelo (aka Marclean) did an INCREDIBLE comparison of Z and TK handwriting.

This kind of got buried. But he did an amazing job. I would love every Ted K skeptic to look at this comparison. How would you describe the differences, if any, between the way Zodiac writes a "K", "M’, "F", "r", "t" and other letters, and the way Ted K does? What about the spacing and overall presentation? Name the suspect you feel has more handwriting matches.

Marcelo used Kaczynski communications from prison and extracted individual letters to recreate, word for word, the text of the Zodiac communication.

MARCELO: below are links of the letters "matrix" Ted K. of which I "took" the "stuff" to construct the similar letter to Zodiac. (images below mentioned links)
happiness to all.
Marcelo ;)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/750×970/documents/0812081unabomber1.gif
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/750×970/documents/0812081unabomber2.gif
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/750×970/documents/0812081unabomber3.gif

. …………………………………………

AK Wilks: Below: Upper and darker lines are Zodiac, lower and lighter ones are TK.

Aside from that, can you tell which is which? Not only is TK’s handwriting the most similar to Zodiac’s, by far, it is virtually indistinguishable.

Describe to me what differences, if any, you see in the handwriting of Z and TK…:

AK Wilks: For the full presentation of this work and the very interesting discussion of it, go to viewtopic.php?f=102&t=4456

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Posted : January 17, 2021 4:29 pm
(@dont_lick_it)
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There are two options: he is the Zodiac or Ted had obsession with Zodiak. I prefer second option

 
Posted : January 17, 2021 6:22 pm
 egg
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For the handwriting comparison I would use mainly the writing from his diary, just to try and remain consistent in time.

One thing I will admit, if he is the Zodiac then he actually fabricated a personality distinct of his own, which reveals itself only in later letters (Mikado/Blue Meanies/etc). It would nit be surprising for Ted K but I have to admit it is the one thing that feels a little far fetched.

The only one who is a good match is Fred Manalli and Lawrence Kane. The later matches the personality really well in his blue letter to Eileen Barton; exact same misspelling (even worst than Z), same spacing problem, same tone as the Mikado/Little List (letter can be seen in one of the threads).

The problem people have with Kane is his voice (he says he is working on improving his diction in the recording) but the recording is 26 years before and before his brain injury/partial face paralysis. He even has the “mother” issue from Z’s psychological profile. His writing is always all caps, so handwriting comparisons are limited.

Fred Manalli, good suspect but requires more than one person involved.

One thing I am sure of: Ted probably killed people before being the Unabomber.

 
Posted : January 17, 2021 7:53 pm
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