Looking forward is what is needed at this time.
What can I do now that will make a difference for myself and everyone else?

Staying home!
When I do have to go out for essentials, social distancing.
To help those who have lost jobs, I pay it forward at gas stations and pharmacy etc.

Looking forward is what is needed at this time.
What can I do now that will make a difference for myself and everyone else?

Staying home!
When I do have to go out for essentials, social distancing.
To help those who have lost jobs, I pay it forward at gas stations and pharmacy etc.

And… WASH YOUR HANDS with soap, also wash your wrists, all together for at least 30 seconds!
Do it before you leave your house and then again the first thing you do when you get back home.

Here an illustration video of hand washing with black paint so that you can see what parts of the hands that are easy to forget:
https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1241177007305744384

Thank you Emann & TheForeigner, you have understood. It is not a question of ‘if’ but ‘when’.

To no more than give an impression of what is going on here in Austria, I send you a short digital imprint of pictures I made today. The situation I had to see today shocked me significantly. It is as if 98% of the population had simply ‘disappeared’. My dog even is wondering like hell..

It confirmed, however, that staying home is right. Also it showed, that after 2 weeks of isolation, people probably will stop self-isolation due to lack of discipline.

It left me in deep worries about what – first of all: is going on – also what will happen over the next days, weeks, months.

QT

Your can follow the worldwide, by country, day by day development of COVID19,
infected, deaths, recovered and critical sic, in this link, it is IMO the most precise & reliable website :

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Looking at the rapid decline of infection rates in china (if true) one may suspect (A) they worked hard and diligent. (B) they have a vaccine.
which would make it a secret vaccine. Me thinking like that makes me a conspiricy theorist of sorts. which i am not. i cannot fathom such a rapid descent of the numbers. They technically should have outbreaks all over the country and lots more areas of locking down… something does not feel quite right.

but how could you deliver a secret vaccine to so many people so fast? and why keep it secret?
gosh i have become one.

76,436
Cases which had an outcome:
73,159(96%) Recovered / Discharged

3,277 (4%) Deaths

at this staggering reversal rate they are only about two weeks from nearly everyone being either dead, recovered and out of hospital and virtually virus free. they have a few new cases from people bringing the virus from abroard.

EDIT: just to add if Pence takes over, the vaccine magicaly becomes available by guess who. oh my oh my im bad

Or China is lying and fabricating numbers.

Or China is lying and fabricating numbers.

goes without saying

Thank you Quicktrader…

By the way on YT, Dr Bingham has been pointing the the original reports from China of intravenous Vit C/ Ascorbates. Maybe saturating your system with it, till you have a loose stool then cut back a little with help.

China reported 146 new cases, according to WHO. South Korea plus 76. The disease is not over there, yet.

Italy slowed down a bit, to 8.1% – which is a huge success. Meanwhile, in Florida, US students have their spring break. US has improved slightly but with 10-12k new infections per day it will be pretty difficult if not impossible to stop the outbreak. Austria, although near-to complete lockdown, still up 18.1% – and ‘today’ is not even complete.

Vaccines? At the moment without any use. First, not available, yet. Second, if available, it takes 6 months to produce reasonable amounts. Third, not a single person vaccinated, yet.

Yesterday’s ‘walk’ through the ‘biowarfare zone‘ made me both – thinking and calculating. Based on similar growth rates in the nearest future, it will be just a matter of time until a complete (military) lockdown will follow. At the moment, my goal is to find the best time to flee from the city. And this – sadly – is not a joke.

The difference of 8% versus 15% daily growth rate is just an issue of time. 1.5m infected people (18% of Austria’s population – equal to 63m Americans – are expected to be infected sometime between April 20th and May 4th. Hospital efforts? Then mostly useless.

Only if the growth rate lowers significantly, the disease might get under control. So far, I don’t see that in any country except possibly some in Asia. It is an illusion, regarding spring time / behaviour of some people out there, to expect the growth rate to go down automatically. The longer the self-isolation, the more cases will occur.

Me already shouting at people on the street when I realize they do gather without not being a couple or family members (‘Good luck with transmitting..’). They look at me with open eyes, as if they had not realized the increase from ~150 cases to ~6,000 cases over the last days/weeks. Sounds silly but it might save lives. AVE CAESAR – MORITURI TE SALUTANT!

The peak of the disease is expected to happen sometime between 2nd of June to end of June, 2020. This will even be the case if they manage to reduce the daily growth rate by 3% per day.

But from the time Austria has 800,000 infected people running around (playing ‘Walking Dead‘), I want to sit in my tent somewhere far away from anybody, with lots of food in my car’s trunk. For sure, won’t be ‘touching door handles’ then anymore.

Although I think it is too early to do so, my plan is to leave at the latest on 15th of April. Watching the growth rates on a daily basis, of course.

QT

i love Austria all the best QT

i love Austria all the best QT

Thanks, hope US will get over it, too.

QT

i love Austria all the best QT

Thanks, hope US will get over it, too.

QT

i am from australia

Wow, that shows how international this forum actually is. Here in Austria we say "there are no cangaroos in Austria"..

Below a CALCULATION for Austria/Vienna. In fact, this could be similar ‘elsewhere’, e.g. could work for Bay area / San Francisco, too. Main set-up is a) population (8.5m nationwide and 1.9m the city) and b) current day-to-day growth rate (18.1%) and c) expectation how much we can reduce that growth rate per week (20% of 18.1% etc.):

If you want a calculation for your city, send me this data plus how many are already infected and I can return a rough prognosis (just lazy to do it right now).

If your region has approximately 5,000 infected, the situation is – moreless – clear. Only 3 scenarios:

1) People stay self-isolated, growth rate goes DOWN significantly:
Less infections, mortality, hospitals can handle the situation. PEAK of the disease will be few weeks from now (not so US if state borders are open); most likely from April 20th to June 20th.

2.) People stay ‘somewhat’ disciplined (not yet the case in e.g. Florida):
Huge amount of infections, hundreds if not millions of deaths.

3.) People are not able to reduce the growth rate:
Moreless everybody gets infected, millions of deaths.

Interesting, though, that it is not such a big difference if growth rate is 8%, 15% or 18% a day. Only small things change: Outbreak later, 10x more infections/victims etc. but PEAK of the outbreak will happen almost in the same time frame.

In Austria, if people handle the situation well, I expect 1.2m infections and approximately 100,000 deaths. Multiply the data with the factor ~50 and you get the prognosis for the US.

QT

Ah.. its been a long time since i rode those kangaroos to school..very dangerous

we in australia are about to go into stage two shutdown. a balancing act trying to help ease the fiscal pressures. national borders closed only citizens allowed into this large island continent, they are retuning in droves all flying home. they being our biggest problem resulting in our spikes. social distancing starting to get through to the stupid ones..although last saturday 20,000+ stupid people went to Bondi beach. its now closed.

i am not a praying man,
but what i see on the horizon,
may bring me to my knees,
in the mean time,
all hail the doctors the nurses and scientists.

People seem to have a hard time imagining the danger until they can see it right in front of them.

"Oh, that’s just another country’s problem."

"Oh, that’s just another state’s problem."

"The media is just overhyping this thing."

Etc.

Meanwhile, a New York hospital had to bring in a refrigerated truck to store dead bodies of covid19 victims because they ran out of room.