I think he might be pulling symbols out of the 408 to come up with that. This is what is at that Daily Mail link.

Yeah that’s what I thought. I was wondering though what criteria he used to select those characters. I was hoping it was something clever but seeing how line 1 is translated to line 2 and then our old friend the anagram, doesn’t really give me much hope.

This just in……

Someone at Tom’s has posted what they believe is the answer to your question Trav.

http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/7 … 3VFBulOWM8 It’s post # 130 of the thread.

I was wrong, it’s symbols from the 340.

This just in……

Someone at Tom’s has posted what they believe is the answer to your question Trav.

http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/7 … 3VFBulOWM8 It’s post # 130 of the thread.

I was wrong, it’s symbols from the 340.

Good job, thanks again Deb. Now … where’s the shaking my head emoticon, ugh, this’ll have to do lol.

I agree with the poster on Tom’s …’weak’. Still, at least it’s not over complicated, that’s just as bad. The 340 wasn’t preceded by the statement "In this cipher is my indenity[sic]" so that weakens it even more. I mention that because what he appears to have done is take a bunch of characters from the cipher that resemble, or are, the letters in his suspects name, translated them in to those letters and then rearranged them (back) into his suspects name. Apart from that being, well ludicrous, as I said he’s possibly used the 340 for it. Maybe not exclusively but I’n not able to check right now. If it had been exclusively the 408 then it might have held a drop of water but ….. I think the approach is, well for one thing, not cryptography but even as just an idea there’s nowhere to go with it to test it. It’s a random selection of symbols that are or resemble letters in an already known answer.

I think my thinking on that is correct.

EDIT: Just to add. I think authors with suspects would do themselves a lot of favors if they didn’t try and shoehorn POI’s names into the cipher symbols. Or tackle the ciphers at all to be honest.

EDIT: It’s just occurred to me that the ‘solution’ is also based around the Z13 so in that respect use of the 340 is kind of relevant. "My name is …". Still my comments still stand for the other aspects.

Kevin Fagan’s Article, S.F. Chronicle.
http://blog.sfgate.com/crime/2014/05/15 … uy-did-it/

Kevin Fagan’s Article, S.F. Chronicle.
http://blog.sfgate.com/crime/2014/05/15 … uy-did-it/

Thanks Zam,

Yeah, sums it up well I think. Congrats on you 666th post btw lol.

Trouble I run into in this case is back in mid to late 60’s you could not walk down a street without seeing a dozen men that could pass for person on the Zodiac wanted poster. Most men had "buzz cuts" and had them black rim glasses up to about 1968 or later. Then there was the new style that was the dope smoking long haired hippy type. That was the 2 most popular styles for men in USA from mid 60’s up to 70’s.

Shoot most families had a strange cousin or uncle that looked like the Zodiac. I seen countless family photos into friends homes I take a 2nd take on thinking hey that guy looks just like The Zodiac, Who is that? Oh that is ole uncle Phil a chemist down at the local plant.

Just because somebody look like the guy on the Zodiac wanted poster don’t mean he is the Zodiac!!

I don’t put a lot in them cyphers because you can change the meaning of them so easy to fit your subject with enough effort.

I got strange feeling on this one. I think it not be long this Van Best Jr. guy ( Ice Cream Parlor Lover ) be push down to late night Coast To Coast AM all night talk show with UFO’s and Bigfoots. Maybe I be wrong but if they had solid proof I think it done been out in print trying to boost book sales.

I have seen one poster that I noticed his question even before I read his post. He ask about if this family kin to Earl Van Dorn from Civil War fame, I saw I don’t know if it was a couple misprint’s or what. But I have seen they have used the Van Dorn name couple times during my today search . Earl Van Dorn was a wild one back in his day that for sure, His main claim to fame if I am not mistaken he was kin to Andrew Jackson. Plus a lady’s man. Killed while accused to be with a married woman. That Peters woman sure got around a lot in history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Van_Dorn

I am Civil War buff too, My kin fought in 22nd VA CSA with George Patton who grandson become the famous General George S Patton who Gray Ghost himself taught little Georgie battlefield tactics when Georgie was a kid. I actually own some land that is said to been part of the old Patton Farm before they moved to CA. after the war as my vacation home. We in 1864 got so close to Washington DC to take pop shots at Lincoln and some others and scared everybody to death until they found out just how little they really was of us and then we had to high tailed it back to good VA soil.

Kevin Fagan’s Article, S.F. Chronicle.
http://blog.sfgate.com/crime/2014/05/15 … uy-did-it/

Thanks Zam,

Yeah, sums it up well I think. Congrats on you 666th post btw lol.

Trav, oh man you got to be kidding me, my 666th post. Well, I only believe in good, postive things so I will turn this to postive.
And yes, I always like Kevin Fagan’s insight on the Z case & happenings, he’s the best!
Zam*

Hi-

In looking at this guy’s evidence, they said the cab print was in blood. They then reverse it to compare it to the defect in the father’s print. Shouldn’t there be a flag on that play? Am I looking at that right? It seems they think the print from the cab is in blood (they were ALL latents) and so they think they can reverse it before they compare it?

Mike

That’s an interesting observation, Mike. I didn’t know that prints were reversed to come up with a possible match. I suppose if both Best’s prints and the prints taken from the cab were reversed it would be okay but if just one of the two were reversed that would be forcing it.

Here are the prints taken from the cab-

http://www.zodiackiller.com/ZPrints.html

I really can’t see them well enough to figure this out. (Cataract surgery in August!)

Hi-

Unless a print was viewed through glass or something, I don’t know why it would be reversed.

Also, I didn’t read the book. I just looked it over. Still deciding. How do we know that the father filled out the Marriage Certificate?

Mike

The people getting married do not fill out the marriage certificate, they fill out the marriage certificate application. I have gotten more than a few of these for suspects.

The CNN Story, for those that might of missed it.
http://outfront.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/1 … ac-killer/

Kevin Fagan’s Article, S.F. Chronicle.
http://blog.sfgate.com/crime/2014/05/15 … uy-did-it/

— "thereby joining a long, long list of people claiming the Zodiac was their father. Or mother. Or sister. Or the nutball living upstairs."

THE best comment of the article.

Just don’t give anyone ideas!! We’ll start reading: "My mother was quite masculine"

This book sounds like another zodiac suspect bs cash in.

On page 419 of the 1968 San Francisco Polk’s Directory there is a EV and Edith Best listed as living at 639 1/2 Kirkwood Av. This address is in the Hunters Point section of San Francisco. I looked for it on a Google map but it looks like it is a park/playground now.

Here’s the index page for the different SF Polk’s Directories, they are not in chronological order, you need to hunt for the year you want to look for Best.

https://archive.org/search.php?query=Sa … pe%3Atexts

I did look in the 1962, 1966 and 1969-70 (combined years edition) and he was not listed in any of those directories.