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(@windbreaker)
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Please redirect if necessary !

I wonder if we could yield some more clues about Zodiacs " living " environment from some certain phrases he used in some of the letters . I am starting to theorize that he may have lived in a wooded area of some sort , close to LBY . I’m convinced that Z stalked his victims for a short while before actually committing the act , much like a hunter would do . This also translates into less apparent forms of stalking , like quietly sitting in the back seat of a cab for instance . This would in my mind partially explain the rather brazen phone calls made close to the PO after the killings . How ? He simply didn’t know that he was that close . Why? He wasn’t all that familiar with the city in any way . Please tell me what you guys think .

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Posted : July 16, 2018 11:21 am
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in a flooded basement

 
Posted : July 16, 2018 3:31 pm
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in a flooded basement

Yeah. Or then it could be the exact opposite of that.

Something that has always made me wonder, though, is that if he had neighbours, how come did none of those people note him not being at home or arriving home late at night on the exact days that the attacks took place? I would assume the residents of Vallejo became particularly vigilant about eachother as it was proposed that Zodiac could be a local. As nobody seems to have noticed, it could be that he either did not live in Vallejo, or lived in an isolated part of the town with few neighbours.

 
Posted : July 16, 2018 9:35 pm
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Or that he lived in a heavily urbanized area, and had so many neighbours that no one noticed or cared.

 
Posted : July 16, 2018 10:31 pm
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in a flooded basement

Yeah. Or then it could be the exact opposite of that.

Something that has always made me wonder, though, is that if he had neighbours, how come did none of those people note him not being at home or arriving home late at night on the exact days that the attacks took place? I would assume the residents of Vallejo became particularly vigilant about eachother as it was proposed that Zodiac could be a local. As nobody seems to have noticed, it could be that he either did not live in Vallejo, or lived in an isolated part of the town with few neighbors.

Maybe his neighbors we of the " no questions asked " type if you know what I mean , which would really explain the way he eluded capture after the PS murder . Can anyone else see Z being the kind of individual to live in someone else’s home without them knowing it ? That would be the proverbial basement everyone is mentioning . Same story I suppose with any abandoned/up for sale properties .

 
Posted : July 19, 2018 11:45 am
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in a flooded basement

Yeah. Or then it could be the exact opposite of that.

Something that has always made me wonder, though, is that if he had neighbours, how come did none of those people note him not being at home or arriving home late at night on the exact days that the attacks took place? I would assume the residents of Vallejo became particularly vigilant about eachother as it was proposed that Zodiac could be a local. As nobody seems to have noticed, it could be that he either did not live in Vallejo, or lived in an isolated part of the town with few neighbors.

Maybe his neighbors we of the " no questions asked " type if you know what I mean , which would really explain the way he eluded capture after the PS murder . Can anyone else see Z being the kind of individual to live in someone else’s home without them knowing it ? That would be the proverbial basement everyone is mentioning . Same story I suppose with any abandoned/up for sale properties .

I don’t know about him living secretly in someone else’s house… but I have a bit hard time seeing him as someone who would have lived with many other persons (e.g. spouse and kids). Not just for his success at avoiding capture but also personality-wise.

 
Posted : July 19, 2018 9:45 pm
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^^And that could be one of the many reasons he was never caught…or suspected. Nobody would have thunk it was him.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : July 19, 2018 10:42 pm
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Can anyone else see Z being the kind of individual to live in someone else’s home without them knowing it ?

Nah, too much of a chance of getting caught. Zodiac was careful if nothing else, or he would already been arrested.

 
Posted : July 20, 2018 8:21 am
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Well, he could have lived in a cabin in the woods somewhere in Montana, for all we know ^^

 
Posted : July 20, 2018 1:07 pm
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Well, he could have lived in a cabin in the woods somewhere in Montana, for all we know ^^

Haha I doubt TK was Zodiac and I been to Montana. Beautiful wildlife place but not for me and don’t like living in 5 degrees 10 months out of the year. I do believe Zodiac was a complete loner though. Ps. Bozeman airport still owes me my bic lighter back. :oops:

 
Posted : July 20, 2018 2:01 pm
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Well, he could have lived in a cabin in the woods somewhere in Montana, for all we know ^^

Haha I doubt TK was Zodiac and I been to Montana. Beautiful scenery and wildlife place but not for me and don’t like living in 5 degrees 10 months out of the year. I do believe Zodiac was a complete loner though. Ps. Bozeman airport still owes me my bic lighter back. :oops:

 
Posted : July 20, 2018 2:13 pm
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The more I read about Zodiac and Kaczynski, the more I’m convinced they’re one and the same person. Too many coincidences for me.

 
Posted : July 20, 2018 2:59 pm
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Hmmm . A cabin doesn’t sound all to fantastical at all actually , but maybe more of a beach house or lakeside property in his case . Wouldn’t surprise me at all if he owned ( or still owns ) property near LB .

 
Posted : July 21, 2018 9:01 pm
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Hmmm . A cabin doesn’t sound all to fantastical at all actually , but maybe more of a beach house or lakeside property in his case . Wouldn’t surprise me at all if he owned ( or still owns ) property near LB .

There doesn’t seem to be a lot of houses near the lake. Mainly some vineyards and ranches, as well a couple dozen houses surrounding Berryessa Dr and Putah Creek Rd, most of which seem to have been there already in the 60s. The area seems to be called Berryessa Pines.

The fact that he called from Napa after the Berryessa attack makes me wonder. Why Napa? I understand that he wanted to get out of the crime scene and would not have considered calling from a booth at some tourist establishment by the lake. Is Napa the closest "anonymous" phone booth location to Lake Berryessa? Would there have been such booths closer at that time?

I remember reading that there would have been another booth in Napa a little bit closer when entering the town from the direction of Monticello Rd, but he did not use that phone. Instead he used a booth that was closer to the police station, if I remember correctly. It seems he simply wanted to be as local as possible in his taunting calls and had possibly scouted and chosen the booths in advance.

No matter how hard I try to gain some kind of insight about his phone booth choices as an indication of where he may have lived… nothing comes from it. I know, this thread was about the letters :D

 
Posted : July 21, 2018 11:36 pm
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I guess my thought on this would be … why NOT Napa. Haven’t you ever had an errand to run and when you were done you didn’t feel like going home so you just drove around? Or maybe you had an appointment at 1:00 … went to that and it went quicker than expected. Then you had another appointment at 4:00 so you killed time by just driving around? Perhaps Z was just driving around killing time thinking about his crime. Relaxing after the murder. I don’t know that it is such a mystery why he went to Napa. IMO maybe we just read too much into the WHY …

 
Posted : July 22, 2018 8:00 pm
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