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Marclean
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I found this book from 1880 (I think) Greg, Percy, 1836-1889, found interesting the part where talks cipher and the title of the book. Of course I can not enter anything for my bad english and sorry if that peopl do not have anything interesting. ;) :roll:

as always

just sharing

Marcelo.

"Deciphered ,Transleted and edited"

"Colonel A—- (the reader will learn why I give neither his name nor
real rank) spoke with some bitterness of the inquisitiveness which
rendered it impossible, he said, to trust an American with a secret,
and very difficult to keep one without lying. We were presently joined
by Major B—-, who had been employed during the war in the conduct of
many critical communications, and had shown great ingenuity in
devising and unravelling ciphers. On this subject a somewhat
protracted discussion arose. I inclined to the doctrine of Poe, that
no cipher can be devised which cannot be detected by an experienced
hand; my friends indicated simple methods of defeating the processes
on which decipherers rely.

"Poe’s theory," said the Major, "depends upon the frequent recurrence
of certain letters, syllables, and brief words in any given language;
for instance, of _e_’s and _t_’s, _tion_ and _ed_, _a_, _and_, and
_the_ in English. Now it is perfectly easy to introduce abbreviations
for each of the common short words and terminations, and equally easy
to baffle the decipherer’s reliance thereon by inserting meaningless
symbols to separate the words; by employing two signs for a common
letter, or so arranging your cipher that no one shall without extreme
difficulty know which marks stand for single and which for several
combined letters, where one letter ends and another begins."

After some debate, Colonel A—- wrote down and handed me two lines in
a cipher whose character at once struck me as very remarkable.

"I grant," said I, "that these hieroglyphics might well puzzle a more
practised decipherer than myself. Still, I can point out even here a
clue which might help detection. There occur, even in these two lines,
three or four symbols which, from their size and complication, are
evidently abbreviations. Again, the distinct forms are very few, and
have obviously been made to serve for different letters by some slight
alterations devised upon a fixed rule. In a word, the cipher has been
constructed upon a general principle; and though it may take a long
time to find out what that principle is, it affords a clue which,
carefully followed out, will probably lead to detection."

"You have perceived," said Colonel A—-, "a fact which it took me
very long to discover. I have not deciphered all the more difficult
passages of the manuscript from which I took this example; but I have
ascertained the meaning of all its simple characters, and your
inference is certainly correct."

Here he stopped abruptly, as if he thought he had said too much, and
the subject dropped."

Links

https://archive.org/stream/acrossthezodiac10165gut/10165.txt (full text)

https://archive.org/stream/acrosszodiac01greggoog#page/n4/mode/2up (book)

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Posted : September 30, 2014 7:23 am
Marclean
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Sorry, the chapter that speaks of the cipher (code) is the first volume (chapter one) and the first volume is not scanned, just got this linkhttps://ia700302.us.archive.org/3/items/acrossthezodiac10165gut/10165.txt produced by "The Project Gutenberg eBook" :P

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Posted : September 30, 2014 8:08 am
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Here are two scans of the book I found:

http://zodiackillerciphers.com/images/Across_the_Zodiac.pdf
http://zodiackillerciphers.com/images/Across_the_Zodiac_the_Story_of_a_Wrecked.pdf

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : September 30, 2014 1:20 pm
Marclean
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Here are two scans of the book I found:

http://zodiackillerciphers.com/images/Across_the_Zodiac.pdf
http://zodiackillerciphers.com/images/Across_the_Zodiac_the_Story_of_a_Wrecked.pdf

Thank you doranchak.

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Posted : September 30, 2014 9:27 pm
Marclean
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From what I saw the version of the Doranchak link: http://zodiackillerciphers.com/images/Across_the_Zodiac.pdf Library of the University of California (Berkeley), not that this is anything more is just an observation. It would be nice if I could see what year is that library.
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I liked the quote:
"Thoughts he sends to each planet,
       Uranus, Venus, and Mars;
     Soars to the Centre to span it,
       Numbers the infinite Stars. "
_Courthope’s Paradise of Birds_
The word "paradise" occurs four times in this book and Slaves or Slave occurs 15 times. Obviously if you take any book that any time these words appear in the same proportion or even more times, so nothing surprising, just an observation
In time, I have not read the book, just used Ctrl-F to find words.

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Posted : September 30, 2014 11:34 pm
Marclean
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There I go again.
From what I saw mistaken, this book is at least since 1964 in Berkeley,
and until the date of the scanner, was caught a few times.
07 / feb / 64 (I think) was the beginning.
I do not really understand the significance of the use of the book (dates, notes) card and if that makes any sense.
And again, sorry if this has any meaning I wrote to someone here.

Marcelo Leandro

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Posted : October 1, 2014 8:59 pm
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There I go again.
From what I saw mistaken, this book is at least since 1964 in Berkeley,
and until the date of the scanner, was caught a few times.
07 / feb / 64 (I think) was the beginning.
I do not really understand the significance of the use of the book (dates, notes) card and if that makes any sense.
And again, sorry if this has any meaning I wrote to someone here.

Marcelo Leandro

Been a while since I was at the Library, but in the ‘old days’, each book had a envelope in the front or back with a card in it. When you checked the book out from the library, the Librarian would remove the card, and stamp it with the date you checked it out. When you returned the book, the Librarian would stamp the card and put it back in the envelope, so all those dates are likell the same thing-check in/check out dates

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Posted : October 1, 2014 10:59 pm
Marclean
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Yes, thank u Morf :)

Marcelo

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Posted : October 2, 2014 2:23 am
Marclean
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Look at this poem in the book:

"’Watch the hand and read the eyes;
On his breast the danger lies–
Strength is weak and childhood wise.

"’Fail the bowl, and–‘ware the knife!
Rests on him the Sovereign’s life,
Rests the husband’s on the wife.

"’They that would his power command
Know who holds his heart in hand:
Silken tress is surest band.

"’Well they judge Kargynda’s mood,
Steel to peril, pain, and blood,
Surely through his mate subdued.

"’Love can make the strong a slave,
Fool the wise and quell the brave …
Love by sacrifice can save.’"

If you had a RH in the end I ran and hid under the bed :shock:
:D
Marcelo

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Posted : October 2, 2014 10:16 pm
Marclean
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Hello. :D
Find this book is the namesake posted here.
wikipedia:
"The same title was used for a later, similar book-Across the Zodiac:. A Story of Adventure (1896) by Edwin Pallander (1869-1952) (the pseudonym of UK biologist, botanist and author Francis Lancelot Sanderson Bayly) Pallander copied some elements of Greg’s plot;. in his book, gravity is negated by the gyroscope "
It’s not relevant, but follows the same thread of this topic

link:https://archive.org/details/acrosszodiacstor00pall

Marcelo :)

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Posted : February 29, 2016 1:06 am
Marclean
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The only thing I found a coincidence of course, but did not fail to associate with the ZMF. It was on the extension page, an announcement on another book
HER loving SLAVE

https://archive.org/stream/acrosszodiacstor00pall#page/10/mode/2up

Marcelo :)

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Posted : February 29, 2016 1:28 am
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