The three girls at Berryessa originally informed Dean according to the police report of a subject aged approximately 40 years of age, exactly the same as Presidio Heights.
http://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport8.html

Meh, that’s second hand information from the Dean of the college. In their interview with police one girl said 28, another said 30, the other did not give an age. I have doubt that was actually Zodiac anyway. I’d like to know what the couple in the car in the parking area saw. That has apparently been held back however.

I agree. It was the college dean who told police the man was 40. When the girls were interview first hand, they all indicated he was younger. Other than the Presidio Heights witnesses, all others had him being closer to 30 than 40.

I looked pretty thoroughly through the police reports, and I found no mention of a "round face" from Mageau. If someone can locate it, please point it out.

One thing that really struck me was how consistent the description of the Zodiac’s build was:

"heavy set"
"real heavy set"
"beefy"
"not blubbery fat, but real beefy"
"stout"
"kind of heavy, but not obese"
"overweight"
"bulky looking"
"muscular"
"well built"
stocky"
"heavy build"
"medium-heavy build"
"paunchy stomach"

I think it is safe to say that you can eliminate any "skinny" or "slender" suspects. This guy was fire hydrant.

If we’re being honest, it does help the case against ALA.

It does not. That is exactly what ALA looked like. Former lifeguard, looks strong in the early 60s, still a scuba diver in the late 60s so likely of similar build still. The movie makes ALA look like a slow-thinking fat guy, which he was not.

ALA never looked like anything else that those quoted descriptions above, it’s a pretty good description of his build actually.

ALA was also well over 6 feet tall, this doesn’t match the descriptions.

There is also plenty of other things that disqualifies ALA.

ALA was also well over 6 feet tall

Allen topped out at just about 6′ even.

I have created a spreadsheet that breaks down each description of possible eyewitnesses of the Zodiac. Almost all information has been gleaned from the police reports available online (thanks, Tom!) other than the documentary stuff.

Some are obvious confirmed eyewitnesses such as Mageau, Hartnell, and the Robbins kids.

Others are possible eyewitnesses such as the three college girls, the doctor and his son, and Foulke.

I have also added Cecilia Shepherd’s possible descriptions based on what the Whites claim she said in the police reports and in David Collins interview in the 2007 Zodiac documentary. I also included the post-Stine murder sketch descriptions for reference.

You may decide the veracity of these descriptions on your own.

I have also created a general, overall description by combining and averaging them. That may be useful or not. Again, you can decide how best to process this. Either way, I think it’s a good way to look at all the descriptions all at once.

Here it is:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ … sp=sharing

As always, please fact check me.

Great chart!

I looked pretty thoroughly through the police reports, and I found no mention of a "round face" from Mageau. If someone can locate it, please point it out.

One thing that really struck me was how consistent the description of the Zodiac’s build was:

"heavy set"
"real heavy set"
"beefy"
"not blubbery fat, but real beefy"
"stout"
"kind of heavy, but not obese"
"overweight"
"bulky looking"
"muscular"
"well built"
stocky"
"heavy build"
"medium-heavy build"
"paunchy stomach"

I think it is safe to say that you can eliminate any "skinny" or "slender" suspects. This guy was fire hydrant.

He was described as being roughly 195-200 lbs. The height has ranged from 5’8" to 5’11" from what I have seen. 195 lbs is probably a little above the average weight for a 5’11" male, but is 25-30 lbs above average for a man at 5’8", so I would lean toward the killer likely being closer to 5’8". That could be wrong though. "Barrel chested" or "stocky" may indicate that the killer lifted weights. I posted photos of a POI in the secret suspect section (the man is still alive) that is stocky and has a big chest with a slight beer belly. In my opinion, this is exactly what Zodiac’s body looked like based on witness descriptions.

I’m going to bump this thread due to Morf and Richard’s recent podcast episode of Zodiac Speaking re- eye witness descriptions.