There’s very little new ground to be plowed in the Zodiac case. Most angles have been worked. New suspects are about the only thing new to be discussed.
Hi Tom,
Thank you sir. If you have time for a couple of questions, I would appreciate it. From a Zodiac community standpoint what do you think the percentage is of people that think Zodiac took drugs? my perception would be 10% or less. I don’t know. Also if you could put a percentage on the Zodiac community that believe he was very straight laced. By Zodiac community, I mean LE or researchers like yourself that have really studied the case. Thank you.
Hi Tom,
Thank you sir. If you have time for a couple of questions, I would appreciate it. From a Zodiac community standpoint what do you think the percentage is of people that think Zodiac took drugs? my perception would be 10% or less. I don’t know. Also if you could put a percentage on the Zodiac community that believe he was very straight laced. By Zodiac community, I mean LE or researchers like yourself that have really studied the case. Thank you.
Considering the time period and Zodiac’s likely age, I don’t think too many would be surprised if they learned he was into drugs. I believe he had a mental illness that either wasn’t diagnosed, or was diagnosed but he sometimes went off his meds because of his use of other substances. It’s hard for me to believe a person like Zodiac could have had a sober mind.
<There’s very little new ground to be plowed in the Zodiac case. Most angles have been worked. New suspects are about the only thing new to be discussed.>
Agreed. Unless the New York DNA method can solve Riverside.
I dont think z was into any drugs or mentally ill…being bat shit crazy is the one of a few hurdles5 why i do not consider TK to be the z front runner….not much of a fun of multiple z’s either….i do like x as well but he seems to me to be prime z if you follow multiple z theory….best case to solve any of these cold cases in my opinion would be CJB…but i am still not convinced her death was at hands of z
It’s hard for me to believe a person like Zodiac could have had a sober mind.
It’s hard for me to believe he was stoned out of his mind. Stoned out people get caught driving around with a hood and a bloody knife, or leave clues that lead to them. Zodiac was most certainly batshit crazy, but he was sane and sober enough to cover his tracks well.
It’s hard for me to believe a person like Zodiac could have had a sober mind.
It’s hard for me to believe he was stoned out of his mind. Stoned out people get caught driving around with a hood and a bloody knife, or leave clues that lead to them. Zodiac was most certainly batshit crazy, but he was sane and sober enough to cover his tracks well.
He was just a stone cold psychopathic SOB like JJD, Bundy etc.
It’s hard for me to believe a person like Zodiac could have had a sober mind.
It’s hard for me to believe he was stoned out of his mind. Stoned out people get caught driving around with a hood and a bloody knife, or leave clues that lead to them. Zodiac was most certainly batshit crazy, but he was sane and sober enough to cover his tracks well.
He was just a stone cold psychopathic SOB like JJD, Bundy etc.
Yep. Zodiac was smart but that doesn’t mean he was some super genius, you don’t have to be a super genius to do what Zodiac did, just well disciplined.
He was well disciplined. He stuck to his plan, got in and out as quickly as possible. Didn’t leave much for clues. I think he stayed sober at least during the attacks.
I’m biased however since I tend to believe Zodiac killed a lot of people over a long period of time and the killings were his drug. I’m open to all plausible scenarios though. I don’t see much written in stone about Zodiac. It’s over 50 years later and we still don’t know who he was.
I highly doubt that Zodiac was driving around with his hood on after leaving the crime scene. He had to take it off as soon as he started to walk away. It was extremely hot with it on his head.
Yep. Zodiac was smart but that doesn’t mean he was some super genius, you don’t have to be a super genius to do what Zodiac did, just well disciplined.
He was well disciplined. He stuck to his plan, got in and out as quickly as possible. Didn’t leave much for clues. I think he stayed sober at least during the attacks.
Those are good points, except for Stine. My sense is he might have been willing to get caught that night. A far less risky place to commit the crime would have been 3 blocks away inside the Presidio.
Yep. Zodiac was smart but that doesn’t mean he was some super genius, you don’t have to be a super genius to do what Zodiac did, just well disciplined.
He was well disciplined. He stuck to his plan, got in and out as quickly as possible. Didn’t leave much for clues. I think he stayed sober at least during the attacks.
Those are good points, except for Stine. My sense is he might have been willing to get caught that night. A far less risky place to commit the crime would have been 3 blocks away inside the Presidio.
Maybe, it depends on what his escape route was. If it WAS Zodiac that Fouke and Zelm encountered, he was indeed taking a big chance. I think the risk was part of the thrill for him though.
Yes Robert Weil of New Jersey is related to Eric Weil. Zodiac Killer .com has all this information.
That is false. Eric’s last name is actually Weill. No relation to Robert.
A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….
Yes Robert Weil of New Jersey is related to Eric Weil. Zodiac Killer .com has all this information.
That is false. Eric’s last name is actually Weill. No relation to Robert.
Thank you for that information ophion1031. I think that the Eric Weill info about him being the Jim Dunbar show caller is also false. Listen to his voice on Youtube and then listen to the caller to the show, that was not Eric Weill! Just because he was caught calling Mel Belli’s home, doesn’t automatically make him the Dumbar caller, that was Zodiac in spite of what the witnesses think. You can’t always rely on what witnesses think! The man who I believe is Zodiac, was able to change the sound of his voice from when I took his drink order, to when he had me alone a few minutes later. He spoke slowly both times, but when he had me alone it was extremely slow and scary-sounding!
Yeah you’re right about that the website I saw the info didn’t have the updated information about the janitor been caught with DNA evidence a couple years ago.
He managed to kill himself because they tried to arrest him with kid gloves. Massive screw up.
Very true, They should have used the same tactics used to capture Joe DeAngelo/GSK.
Absolutely…they should have slid down that slippery slope as if it were a water park slide…
Because of the link between David Berkowitz and Arliss Perry I believe the zodiac was killed buy somebody in the Satanic cult. These people also murdered people in New Jersey at a granite quarry a young girl.
It is possible Zodiac was killed by a victim. But Zodiac was not known to break into homes, were he might be killed by an armed homeowner. He attacked teenagers and young adults at lovers lanes and beaches, situations where the victims are not likely to be armed. It is possible he did some home invasion murders, like Nancy Bennallack, etc., but these were single females and also not likely to be armed.
As for Zodiac being killed by a Satanic cult, I see no solid evidence of Z ever being involved in Satanism, or a cult or having accomplices. As for claims that the Son of Sam, Manson Family and/or Zodiac were involved in nationwide cult or criminal gang, there are no solid facts to support it. The book Ultimate Evil is a good read, but lacks solid facts and evidence. The claim by the Son of Sam that this nationwide cult was involved in the murder of Arliss Perry has now been proven false. DNA on her body was found to belong to the guard who said he discovered her body, and he killed himself rather than face arrest.
I personally don’t believe Zodiac was in a Satanic cult or had even the slightest interest in Satanism.
As for Son of Sam, and Berkowitz’s claim about Arlis Perry, he only told Maury Terry what he had been told by others. Only the person who told him would know why they lied to him…perhaps they wanted to feed him some false intel in an attempt to discredit anything he might later say if he decided not to be the "good soldier" he started out as when he plead guilty. I know that’s what I’d do if I were leading a group and offering up a patsy to take the fall…
As for Ultimate Evil, it is a good read, and it abounds with solid facts and evidence. In fact, I’d daresay it has more facts and evidence presented than you’ve been able to provide in your quest to turn TK into the ZodiTyloUnabom Killer. Are you aware of just how many people Berkowitz named checked out under strange or questionable circumstances?
An updated version of Ultimate Evil is hitting the streets tomorrow, with a foreward by Josh Zeman, of The Killing Season and Cropsey fame.
A Netflix 4-part documentary by Zeman,based on the book, is due to drop on May 5th.
