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(@sandy-betts)
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If the person I got away from in Vallejo in the winter of 1968 was in fact Zodiac and I do have good reason to be that to be him, he was for sure into a satanic cult or believed in satanism.
I was recently told that a second letter sent to me in Napa 1969, has been authenticated by the nation’s top handwriting expert as being sent by Zodiac. His brother Bart Baggett called me very excited back in the early 1990s, telling me that a letter I received in 1987 was also in fact from Zodiac! That makes two letters so far being authentic.

That person has tormented Darlene’s sister Pam and myself for many years and has done satanic-type things to both of us, I have no doubt he is evil and believes in Satanic cults. When I showed his picture to someone who belonged to the Church of Satan in SF, she told me she saw that person at her church!

As far as being whacked out, it is highly doubtful. The person I have as a suspect was still killing through the 1990s. He could have continued longer than that, I just don’t have anything to prove past the 1990s.

I have been told by someone who claims to have known my suspect, that he died almost two yrs ago from cirrhosis of the liver. That he was a construction worker who had lived and worked in Benicia. The company he worked for was about two miles from the Lake Herman crime scene, called Lathrope Construction.

I have seen that suspect with another person with the initials of RH, he is still alive so it is best not to name him yet. I have given the information to the FBI as I was requested to do by John Walsh of the TV program "In Pursuit". He messaged me a couple of days ago. I had told him that I reported to the FBI before, he said to do it again and gave me the link to their tip line. After about an hour of filling out the paperwork, the message was the FBI doesn’t answer all tips. I will keep you posted if I do hear back from the FBI.

 
Posted : April 21, 2021 6:37 pm
Marshall
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I was recently told that a second letter sent to me in Napa 1969, has been authenticated by the nation’s top handwriting expert as being sent by Zodiac. His brother Bart Baggett called me very excited back in the early 1990s, telling me that a letter I received in 1987 was also in fact from Zodiac! That makes two letters so far being authentic.

Can you post images of these letters?

 
Posted : April 21, 2021 9:54 pm
(@alphadeltarho)
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Several notable Serial Killers have claimed links to Satanism or claimed to be in a Satanic cult. David Berkowitz, Richard Ramirez, Israel Keyes, the list goes on. I’ve never really noticed any Zodiac evidence that would definitely show Zodiac was part of a Satanic Cult or practiced Satanism, the evidence certainly implies it, but it doesn’t clearly state it. I think he added those elements for the shock value.

Mah-na Mah-na

 
Posted : April 21, 2021 10:57 pm
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I was recently told that a second letter sent to me in Napa 1969, has been authenticated by the nation’s top handwriting expert as being sent by Zodiac. His brother Bart Baggett called me very excited back in the early 1990s, telling me that a letter I received in 1987 was also in fact from Zodiac! That makes two letters so far being authentic.

Can you post images of these letters?

They’re in the box with the Zodiac hood in her ex-husband’s garage…

 
Posted : April 22, 2021 4:16 am
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Several notable Serial Killers have claimed links to Satanism or claimed to be in a Satanic cult. David Berkowitz, Richard Ramirez, Israel Keyes, the list goes on. I’ve never really noticed any Zodiac evidence that would definitely show Zodiac was part of a Satanic Cult or practiced Satanism, the evidence certainly implies it, but it doesn’t clearly state it. I think he added those elements for the shock value.

What evidence "implies" Zodiac was part of a Satanic cult or practiced Satanism?

 
Posted : April 22, 2021 4:26 am
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If someone killed Z in self defence, there would be a body. There is no reason for an innocent person to dispose of the corpse. They’d phone the police and explain what happened. Especially if it was a couple he was targeting, there would be 2 witnesses.

I’m not buying the link to organised crime. They usually want to stay out of the headlines.

It’s plausible there was a couple of people working together, it would answer a few of the open questions, but it’s unlikely imo. It’ll be some boring guy who you would never think they would do something so interesting. He probably goes train spotting.

 
Posted : April 22, 2021 5:27 am
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I was recently told that a second letter sent to me in Napa 1969, has been authenticated by the nation’s top handwriting expert as being sent by Zodiac. His brother Bart Baggett called me very excited back in the early 1990s, telling me that a letter I received in 1987 was also in fact from Zodiac! That makes two letters so far being authentic.

Can you post images of these letters?

They’re in the box with the Zodiac hood in her ex-husband’s garage…

but wouldnt the expert handwriting guy have a copy? especially if he authenticated it as a big yes..zodiac … he would have it on a digital device somewhere. even old emails..
cheers

 
Posted : April 22, 2021 6:04 am
Marshall
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Can you post images of these letters?

They’re in the box with the Zodiac hood in her ex-husband’s garage…

but wouldnt the expert handwriting guy have a copy? especially if he authenticated it as a big yes..zodiac … he would have it on a digital device somewhere. even old emails..
cheers

Right, one would think. Also, it seems this new revelation of 2 more confirmed Z letters is fairly recent:

I was recently told that a second letter sent to me in Napa 1969, has been authenticated by the nation’s top handwriting expert as being sent by Zodiac. His brother Bart Baggett called me very excited back in the early 1990s, telling me that a letter I received in 1987 was also in fact from Zodiac! That makes two letters so far being authentic.

I’m betting we won’t be able to see these 2 new Z letters, but I’m curious what the reason will be.

 
Posted : April 22, 2021 6:22 am
(@alphadeltarho)
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Several notable Serial Killers have claimed links to Satanism or claimed to be in a Satanic cult. David Berkowitz, Richard Ramirez, Israel Keyes, the list goes on. I’ve never really noticed any Zodiac evidence that would definitely show Zodiac was part of a Satanic Cult or practiced Satanism, the evidence certainly implies it, but it doesn’t clearly state it. I think he added those elements for the shock value.

What evidence "implies" Zodiac was part of a Satanic cult or practiced Satanism?

He states he’s collecting slaves for the afterlife. The only possible scenario that I could imagine Zodiac thinking he would be allowed to have anything whatsoever by any omnipotent being in the afterlife would be Satan. Surely he didn’t think God would.

Mah-na Mah-na

 
Posted : April 22, 2021 8:39 pm
ConcernedCitizen
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Several notable Serial Killers have claimed links to Satanism or claimed to be in a Satanic cult. David Berkowitz, Richard Ramirez, Israel Keyes, the list goes on. I’ve never really noticed any Zodiac evidence that would definitely show Zodiac was part of a Satanic Cult or practiced Satanism, the evidence certainly implies it, but it doesn’t clearly state it. I think he added those elements for the shock value.

What evidence "implies" Zodiac was part of a Satanic cult or practiced Satanism?

He states he’s collecting slaves for the afterlife. The only possible scenario that I could imagine Zodiac thinking he would be allowed to have anything whatsoever by any omnipotent being in the afterlife would be Satan. Surely he didn’t think God would.

The concept of "slaves for the afterlife" isn’t Satanic in nature.

And Zodiac wouldn’t be relying on any omnipotent being to provide him with anything…in his scenario, he WAS the omnipotent being…

 
Posted : April 23, 2021 12:48 am
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I was recently told that a second letter sent to me in Napa 1969, has been authenticated by the nation’s top handwriting expert as being sent by Zodiac. His brother Bart Baggett called me very excited back in the early 1990s, telling me that a letter I received in 1987 was also in fact from Zodiac! That makes two letters so far being authentic.

Can you post images of these letters?

Brett Baggett is the nation’s top handwriting expert? :roll:

And in the "early-1990s" Bart Baggett was in his early 20s…and Big Bro Brett was only a couple years older.

And in the intervening years, both Brett and Bart have had numerous charges of fraud levied against them.

Credible sources of legitimate intel? I’d think not…

But given where they grew up, I might be inclined to investigate whether they had anything to do with the League City letter…

 
Posted : April 23, 2021 6:00 am
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I was recently told that a second letter sent to me in Napa 1969, has been authenticated by the nation’s top handwriting expert as being sent by Zodiac. His brother Bart Baggett called me very excited back in the early 1990s, telling me that a letter I received in 1987 was also in fact from Zodiac! That makes two letters so far being authentic.

Can you post images of these letters?

Brett Baggett is the nation’s top handwriting expert? :roll:

And in the "early-1990s" Bart Baggett was in his early 20s…and Big Bro Brett was only a couple years older.

And in the intervening years, both Brett and Bart have had numerous charges of fraud levied against them.

Credible sources of legitimate intel? I’d think not…

But given where they grew up, I might be inclined to investigate whether they had anything to do with the League City letter…

I did not mention the name Brett? The nation’s "top expert" whom I was informed of is Curt Baggett! Please don’t make assumptions!

 
Posted : April 25, 2021 9:19 pm
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@SandyBetts

Have pictures of these letters already been uploaded to this forum?

Mah-na Mah-na

 
Posted : April 25, 2021 10:35 pm
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Thank you for asking. Yes, they were, not sure if "photo bucket" removed them or not, I haven’t checked "Sandy’s POI thread" in a long while? They are posted at Zodiac Killer.com on "The Sandy Betts Story" thread and at Richard Grinell’s site.

 
Posted : April 25, 2021 10:52 pm
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Thank you for asking. Yes, they were, not sure if "photo bucket" removed them or not, I haven’t checked "Sandy’s POI thread" in a long while? They are posted at Zodiac Killer.com on "The Sandy Betts Story" thread and at Richard Grinell’s site.

Gotcha, thank you.

Mah-na Mah-na

 
Posted : April 26, 2021 12:16 am
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