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(@nachtsider)
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Slap a pair of glasses on the LB sketch, and it ends up looking very similar to the Presidio Heights sketch.

The jaw on the Presidio Heights sketch is totally wrong. Even Fouke said that the jaw of the man he saw that night was ‘full and rounded’.

 
Posted : December 23, 2013 12:47 am
(@craigfitzer)
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That’s what I was thinking.

 
Posted : December 23, 2013 3:15 am
(@stitchmallone)
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Hi-

Well, you can opine that "non of them look like the sketch" but my research went a bit further. My friend Jim and I were the only people who were able to speak to LR, one of the Stine eyewitnesses, and he almost had a meltdown when we showed him a photo of X with glasses on. He only knew him from his days after he had stopped wearing glasses. And after seeing that photo, he nearly went into a trance and he literally started mumbling to himself, he was so taken by how closely X resembled the man he saw that night. He found the comparison "disturbing."

Mike

I think My POI looks pretty darn good as well who lived less then a mile away at the time where Zodiac hailed the cab. That said as for the poster of this topic, I seen more then a few that look good to the Stine sketch.

 
Posted : December 23, 2013 11:14 am
(@kenpostudent)
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Do I think that the Zodiac didn’t look like the composite? Not exactly. More on that in a minute.

Next question: Do I think that the Zodiac isn’t any of the "popular" suspects? Probably not. But that’s just me.

Trav1 made great points about the usefulness, or maybe lack of, a composite. I’ve said many times that we need to keep in mind the point of a composite. It was designed to jog the memory of potential witnesses. It is not meant to be a reference for comparison to photographs of suspects by third parties.

It’s original purpose was for a time and place that is now past. For us it’s just a general description of what he might look like. If he looks nothing like that, then it’s probably not the guy.

I think whether Zodiac looked like the composite in October 1969 is really beside the point. He probably didn’t look like the composite a few years later. Styles changed in the 70s. Also, if Johns was a legit Zodiac victim, then he absolutely knew he could have been identified by the sketch and would have likely changed his appearance (dropped the glasses or chosen different frames, grown facial hair, grown longer hair, etc.). The sketch would only help you identify someone if you had picture of them from a very short window from October 1969 to maybe March 1970. After that, I am sure he would have changed his appearance drastically.

Consider this: Lindsey Robbins met Kjell Qvale in the 70s, but not in 69. There is no question that Kjell Qvale looked like the composite in the 60s. But Robbins never made that connection because he had never seen Qvale in the 60s. So, he couldn’t deduce that the Qvale he knew in the 70s could have resembled the person he saw in October of 1969. So, whether or not Qvale was Zodiac, Zodiac most certainly could have changed his appearance to make it difficult to connect him to the sketch.

 
Posted : March 25, 2021 10:18 pm
(@kenpostudent)
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Hi-

Well, you can opine that "non of them look like the sketch" but my research went a bit further. My friend Jim and I were the only people who were able to speak to LR, one of the Stine eyewitnesses, and he almost had a meltdown when we showed him a photo of X with glasses on. He only knew him from his days after he had stopped wearing glasses. And after seeing that photo, he nearly went into a trance and he literally started mumbling to himself, he was so taken by how closely X resembled the man he saw that night. He found the comparison "disturbing."

Mike

Yet, he still never made an identification that would hold up in court. You should have went to Rebecca. I would also note that by only showing pictures of Qvale, you basically coaxed a witness. A better technique would have been to show him a lineup of suspects and see if he picks Qvale out as the most likely suspect.

 
Posted : March 25, 2021 10:21 pm
(@capricorn)
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All wanted sketches need to be put together (if not already done). Separate EARONS from the rest, now that he has been found.

 
Posted : March 26, 2021 3:00 am
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