Very Interesting

I don’t know if I’d call this "profiling", per se, but it seems Z’s victims are exclusively college students and/or couples in known "Lover’s Lane" sites. Inclines me to believe Z was probably a college-age individual at the time of the attacks, born in the mid-1940s.

Could be around the same age as the victims, or is an older person that has an issue with high school aged kids? Not sure either way, my favorite couple suspects fall into both categories.

All good observations. And she seems spot on to me. But do you notice the underlying fear in coming out and talking about the Zodiac…

I don’t know if I’d call this "profiling", per se, but it seems Z’s victims are exclusively college students and/or couples in known "Lover’s Lane" sites. Inclines me to believe Z was probably a college-age individual at the time of the attacks, born in the mid-1940s.

Paul Stine….?

Ah! Paul Stine, again. He was going for his doctorate in English at S.F. State: the same school, and same time, as my "POI" did. Many posters consider Stine a fluke–a guy who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I’m not so sure about that. In some ways, I think Z developed into the Lord High Executioner, who had "a little list". Further, Stine drove a cab readily identifiable by a dent on its side. If my "POI" is the genuine article, he could have encountered Stine at State and, for whatever reason, came to dislike him intensely (IMO, you could trim your nails wrong, and it’d p.o. Z). A brief, pseudo-friendly conversation with Stine would elicit all the info my "POI" would need to plot an ambush. Finally, I have no doubt Z reviewed his "little list" before going hunting and, should he encounter a target, he’d execute his plan–and his victim. My "POI", being a fellow student of Stine’s might, in "How ya doin’, old buddy?" style, hop into the cab’s front seat. The rest, we already know too well.
I do have a crucial question: does anyone know what side of Stine’s cab was dented; and did Z hail Stine from that side?

I don’t know if I’d call this "profiling", per se, but it seems Z’s victims are exclusively college students and/or couples in known "Lover’s Lane" sites. Inclines me to believe Z was probably a college-age individual at the time of the attacks, born in the mid-1940s.

Paul Stine….?

Paul Stine went against the grain,and didn’t fit any Zodiac M.O. up to that point, could have been Zodiac trying to trip up the investigators.

Stine was a college student but it’s not the first thing someone would attribute to him. Also, unless Zodiac had a conversation with Stine about what he did besides drive a cab, Zodiac never would have known that about Stine.

I don’t know if I’d call this "profiling", per se, but it seems Z’s victims are exclusively college students and/or couples in known "Lover’s Lane" sites. Inclines me to believe Z was probably a college-age individual at the time of the attacks, born in the mid-1940s.

Paul Stine….?

Paul Stine went against the grain,and didn’t fit any Zodiac M.O. up to that point, could have been Zodiac trying to trip up the investigators.

Or COULD be, if Zodiac had one intended victim, Stine was it and the rest were the diversions.

Stine was truly the oddball out here. Could the "couples" thing simply be a way to take LE’s eyes off of someone who knew Stine and wanted him dead?

No more known murders after Stine either. Easy way out. Admit it was you that night in SF, but the cops pissed you of so "i’m no longer going to announce who I kill"…just lay some fake claims out there so they think your job isn’t done.

Or COULD be, if Zodiac had one intended victim, Stine was it and the rest were the diversions.

Stine was truly the oddball out here. Could the "couples" thing simply be a way to take LE’s eyes off of someone who knew Stine and wanted him dead?

No more known murders after Stine either. Easy way out. Admit it was you that night in SF, but the cops pissed you of so "i’m no longer going to announce who I kill"…just lay some fake claims out there so they think your job isn’t done.

Possible reasons for Paul Stine killing:

1) Premeditation: Stine was intended victim
2) Premeditation: Location was the focus
3) Premeditation: Intent was to murder a cabbie, but not specifically Stine
4) Premeditation: Intent was to make a point
5) Premeditation: Intent was to lay a red herring
6) Premeditation: Other

7) Impulsiveness: Driver offended Z in some way
8) Impulsiveness: Z acted under influence of drugs and/or alcohol
9) Impulsiveness: Reckless act was function of Z’s unpredictability or psychosis
10) Impulsiveness: Z was upset or angry because of an unrelated latter, took it out on Stine
11) Impulsiveness: Just for fun
12) Impulsiveness: Other

13) Wasn’t Zodiac crime

Question: Is there a category of motivations (or more than one–they are not all mutually exclusive) that you favor? Any that you believe are likely wrong?

My answer: Initially I favored #2 as location worked extremely well with my Zodiac Mountain Theory. Since that is now on hold, I have been thinking a lot about the possibility that Z was transgendered. In that case, it seems very possible that Paul Stine may have offended Z–thus, #7.

As far as #1 goes, so far I am inclined notto believe that Stine was targetted (#1). This is since reading Mike Kelleher’s analysis on ZodiacRevisited.com: http://zodiacrevisited.com/paul-stine-a … portunity/

Would like to hear other people’s points of view.

G

If I had to choose I think I would go with your number 4, to make a point. I think that Zodiac wanted people to believe that he could kill anywhere, anyone and at any time. He even threatened children. I believe that terrifying people was a big part of his motive and being in control of the situation was also a motivator for him. He wanted people to be on tender hooks never knowing if and when he would strike again. The letters certainly played a large part in his sick game.

But a cabbie is SO lacking in originality or scary threat. Cab drivers are robbed and/or/were killed often.

I would say to Zodiac, "BFD…you killed a cab driver".

If it was for SF notoriety, I’d say Zodiac was quite nervous to kill in SF, and it proves even more his cowardness.

I’d say for the most part all of Zodiac’s victims were sitting ducks. There was not much of a challenge to killing any of his victims. None of the victims in the first three attacks were armed and there was little expectation that they would be. But, considering that there had been attacks on cabbies, Zodiac may have felt that a cabbie was more challenging because there was the possibility that a cabbie would be armed.

I’d say for the most part all of Zodiac’s victims were sitting ducks. There was not much of a challenge to killing any of his victims. None of the victims in the first three attacks were armed and there was little expectation that they would be. But, considering that there had been attacks on cabbies, Zodiac may have felt that a cabbie was more challenging because there was the possibility that a cabbie would be armed.

Yes. Certainly not much challenge with any of his victims. I have a feeling he felt there was no threat from Paul either.

If anything, I think it proves Zodiac didn’t have some couple fascination or a need to kill women.