banditslayer, Subject: The Game or How long can it b played? Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:44 am
The Game is never over till it is over. You see the Z knows it to. He must keep it alive or there would be no more Z. Who then I ask is good at games? Who is the man trying to keep Z alive? wHO WILL WHEN HE IS CAUGHT GOING TO BE WRITTEN ABOUT THE NEXT 200 YEARS? One thing is for sure. The man will get the last laugh. He will be dead and gone. But they will still right about him. Just like in Shawshank Redemption. This is how it works. So I ask you people who is keeping it alive?
onewhoknows, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:12 am
Yes, in my opinion he got away with his crimes. While alive he was crack proof, and knew it to his grave.
He laughed at law enforcement, he knew he was smarter than the "Pigs". That doesn’t mean that law
enforcement won’t eventually solve this mystery.
There are a few who may benefit in a small way for this to remain a mystery. But they don’t have any
control over law enforcement.
There are a few who, even in the face of DNA evidence, will remain in denial of the truth. Sometimes the
truth is more painful than declaring themselves insane. And believe me, in my case, family members who
were victims, have spent plenty of time in psychiatric lockdown, and still protect the killer.
This is how I get through life; God sees everything. No bad guy ever gets away with their acts. He may
get by with men, but God is watching all we do, all the time, and there will be a final price to pay.
Meanwhile, seek the truth, as it will set your life here on earth free.
traveller1st, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:18 am
Hi banditslayer,
Welcome to the board. No one will tell me who it is but I suspect it’s some mad scientist with a basement and lightening and stuff, or I misunderstood the question …. or are I?
Seriously though, all of us on all the boards keep it alive but that is just a by-product of us trying to "put it to bed".
Be sure to tell us about yourself in the "introduce yourself section" and happy researching amongst us "keeping-it-alivers"
http://zodiackillersite.forummotion.com … e-yourself
Trav.
banditslayer, Subject: But WHO, WHo has tried to keep it alive after it died down? Who Gentleman and ladies. Who has kept it alive? That is your answear! Find who Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:52 am
Ask yourself who has kept the Zodiac alive? Think hard?
AK Wilks, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:36 am
Ask yourself who has kept the Zodiac alive? Think hard?
Hmm not sure where you are going with this…
How about YOU tell us your theory, rather than we try to guess it.
Tell us about yourself, how you got into the case, etc. Then lay out your theory.
I suspect you may be hinting that you think Robert Graysmith or one of the police officers in the case is the Zodiac. If so, give us the FACTS and EVIDENCE to support that theory, or whatever your theory is.
morf13, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:38 am
BINGO
tahoe27, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:47 am
But they will still right about him. Just like in Shawshank Redemption.
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AK Wilks, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:52 am
BINGO
Ha ha, I thought it may be so.
Well let us hear the theory banditslayer, give us the facts and evidence. The floor is yours.
onewhoknows, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:09 pm
The implication being that Zodiac himself keeps it going…
kirkham, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:59 pm
The implication being that Zodiac himself keeps it going…
Whew…thanks for clarifying..looking at his profile name I figured he meant Burt Reynolds was the Z…
banditslayer, Subject: The Game and how it is Played-What are the best odds in beating the House in Vegas or the Police? Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:37 pm
They are Craps, Blackjack and Bacarat.
So remember these numbers 7, 11, 21
There were 7 victims. Ages between 16 and 29 so you see 1 plus 6 is 7 and 2 plus 9 is 11. Guess what crap out new game!
Last murder of the Zodiac 1970 guess what 1 plus 9 plus 1 more murder is 11 and 7 plus 0 is 7 . Guess what crap out new game!
Paul Lee Stine had in his pocket that was inventoried by the coroner/police 7 keys in his pocket. Guess what crap out new game!
The Zodiac use size 7 gloves. One on each hand. Each hand has a thumb and 4 fingers total is a 10 times size 7 equals 7plus o crap out new game or 1970 last Zodiac hit.
So when we look at PARADICE. We see PAIR of DICE. Roll the Dice…… Spin the Wheel by knife, by gun…..
The three letters sent with the three strips of shirt. Guess what 1 by 7inch on the Stine Murder.
This is how the man operates.
Paul Lee Stine, this a big clue, was killed on Oct 11, Guess what Month is 10 date is 11 guess what Blackjack 21
Bigger Clue-He was killed on the Sabbath. In what area of the City then. Presidio Heights. Who lived there? What was the name of the Park that was North.
Could it be Stine should have been STEIN. What is West of Presidio Heights? and What is south of Presidio Heights? WHat was on the corner of Cherry and Washington on the
night of the murder. Look hard. Where was the cab supposed to go? It is across from a what folks. On the other side of the Allen Apts? THis will link you to what is West of
Presidio Heights?
Something to think about, but why there? Why Washington and Cherry. That Sat. night on the Sabbath? There is a school a blockaway from there makes you think.
BanditSlayer
banditslayer, Subject: There is one more thing. Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:48 pm
When all is said and done all is said and done. Zamatha’s humor is the key to the Zodiac.
Zamantha, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:26 pm
When all is said and done all is said and done. Zamatha’s humor is the key to the Zodiac.
Well then, there you have it, haha* :scratch:
banditslayer, Subject: The KEY is the Humor___ CRAZZZZZY THAT is Close It is Actually…r Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:51 pm
Zamatha you hit it right on the head and didn’t realize it. In 1973 there was a magazine name , "Crazy". Stan Lee did it. My POI/Suspect was a penciler in it.
Guess what they match?
AK Wilks, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:31 pm
You may present you thesis anyway you wish, however, from experience of many posters over the years who make cryptic statements and ask questions to generally underwhelming response, my advice is simply state who your POI is (Robert Graysmith?) and give us the FACTS and EVIDENCE to support your theory.
————————–
Issue #4
Crazy Magazine (1973) #4
Published May 1974 by Marvel.
Story and art by Len Wein, Mike Ploog, Tony Isabella, Dick Wright, John Stevens, Steve Gerber, Robert Graysmith, Marv Wolfman, Kenneth Kaasen, Steve Skeates, Michael Sheeler, Bob Foster, Frank Kelly Freas, Stuart Schwartzberg, Marie Severin, and Herb Trimpe. TV Guide parody. Babe Ruth and Joe Namath parodies. Shaft movie parody. Freas painted cover. Cover price $0.40.
Daniel Gillotti, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:39 pm
This is the guy from the radio show who claims GraySmith was involved and can prove it. Does anyone have a link to that radio show. If i’m wrong please disregard…
AK Wilks, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:48 pm
This is the guy from the radio show who claims GraySmith was involved and can prove it. Does anyone have a link to that radio show. If i’m wrong please disregard…
There was a caller to George Noory on the "Coast to Coast AM" radio show who presented a theory that Graysmith was Zodiac.
I don’t know if this is the same person, but I suspect that Dan G is right, and this is likely the same person.
Again, banditslayer, show us the evidence.
morf13, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:19 pm
This is the guy from the radio show who claims GraySmith was involved and can prove it. Does anyone have a link to that radio show. If i’m wrong please disregard…
There was a caller to George Noory on the "Coast to Coast AM" radio show who presented a theory that Graysmith was Zodiac.
I don’t know if this is the same person, but I suspect that Dan G is right, and this is likely the same person.
Again, banditslayer, show us the evidence.
Didnt he state that his POI(Graysmith) worked for an obscure paper in the bay area before he worked at the chron? I seem to recall some mention of this
Daniel Gillotti, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:23 am
I don’t remember but one of us should post the link to the Noory call in so all of us can hear it again. I believe it was posted hear sometime back…
I would entertain this theory for a minute but it better be good if he is going to implicate GS…
Daniel
Daniel Gillotti, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:42 am
I found the post with Noory coast to coast, it was posted by Ricardo. However, someone deleted it from you tube. I knew I should have recorded it…crap…lol…does any one have it…?
HTTP://ZODIACKILLERSITE.FORUMMOTION.COM … O-COAST-AM
traveller1st, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:55 am
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q … AkdxnSsB2E
Daniel Gillotti, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:05 am
Trave, you the man tank u…I did not know this Noory talks about the Z very often theres hours and hours of it, with every sort of angle…lol…I should get out more often…I have a lot of listening to do…I’ll start with Noory MK Ultra and i’ll eventually get to Bandit’s theory…lol
traveller1st, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:24 am
Trave, you the man tank u…I did not know this Noory talks about the Z very often theres hours and hours of it, with every sort of angle…lol…I should get out more often…I have a lot of listening to do…I’ll start with Noory MK Ultra and i’ll eventually get to Bandit’s theory…lol
No probs, didn’t realize myself until I did a search. I’ve heard some of them when they happened but I’ll work through them as well for a listen / re listen. Getting out is over-rated, apparently lol.
traveller1st, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:06 am
Here’s one for ya bandit.
The 506th infantry of the 101st airborne also known as "Para Dice". Note the numbers on the dice.
banditslayer, Subject: Crazy Magazine Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:59 am
I have the first 12 issues of Crazy Magazine and he is in most of them, He also goes by the name of Bob GraySmith. Remember he did not change his name until 1976 to Robert GraySmith. Before it was Robert Gray Smith. I have done my homework for a long time,
banditslayer, Subject: That caller was me on Coast to Coast. I could not give his name on the air. Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:03 am
Mr. Noory took me off the air after the call and gave me his producer. There I named his name. Robert ,,,
banditslayer, Subject: About his Father———————— Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:07 am
His father was a Lt. Colonel in the United States Air Force way back. 40’s,50’s. 60’s His name was Lt. Colonel John Gray. Robert Gray Smith took his father’s last name and put it as his middle name and used his mother’s first marriage last name as his last name.
banditslayer, Subject: Yes, What obsure paper did he work at after college. Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:27 am
This one I will give you the Stockton Record. Yessssss He was a sports cartoonist. for three 3 years from Fall of 1965 to Sept 16 of 1968. Of which the next day he started where. What day is his Birthday?
AK Wilks, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:18 am
You may proceed as you wish, but so far I have not seen one sliver of evidence that Robert Graysmith was the Zodiac, or could even be the Zodiac. You are not supporting your theory, and people will lose interest. If you have something to say, please say it. If you really think it possible that Mr. Graysmith was the Zodiac, show us the evidence to support it. The fact that he changed his name is not evidence, nor is working for Crazy magazine. In other words, IMO, get to the point. If you want to give hints and questions, I for one will be done with this topic. Others may indulge you.
But you are making an accusation that seems nonsensical. This is an open minded forum, however, so you have the floor and an interested group to give you a fair hearing. Go for it.
For legal reason, I will note here that there is absolutely no evidence that Robert Graysmith is the Zodiac, that this is a forum for the exchange of ideas and opinions, and the opinions of members do not reflect the opinions of the board, its owner or its moderators.
Luke68, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:47 am
This one I will give you the Stockton Record. Yessssss He was a sports cartoonist. for three 3 years from Fall of 1965 to Sept 16 of 1968. Of which the next day he started where. What day is his Birthday?
Why do we need to play a guessing game? Are the facts somehow less powerful if they aren’t revealed in some extraordinary manner? Please just state what evidence you have, it saves us all time and bandwidth.
Daniel Gillotti, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:57 am
I will entertain this for a minute…is he the Zodiac probably no. was he involved in any capacity?
I do know there is an editor, writer and artist connection dating back from Jack the Ripper to the Zodiac…from “Punch Magazine” to “JKS” “Reflector” to the 60’s counter Culture Paper and its artwork and artist…
Do you remember the “Jester” character on the “Dripping Pen Card”…that little guy is a “Punch” tribute and a clue….the artist that did some of the Zodiac artwork was talented…
I still believe these cards were made and not bought because if I remember correctly the production cards were never found and I believe the manufacture couldn’t verify them.
There is a forum member here who claims 100% that the Zodiac can’t be solved without GS coming forward…my ears are peaked and maybe its time for the whole truth to be told. From the many who were involved with the Ripper and the many who were involved with the Zodiac.
onewhoknows, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:04 am
My guess is that Robert Graysmith was more likely a victim of the Zodiac’s. Once the first
book came out, most likely Zodiac would have been alive then and aware of it. Zodiac
probably sat in a car smoking a cigarette in front of Graysmith’s office or place of residence.
Zodiac likely approached him in a casual yet intimidating way. Graysmith has probably met Zodiac.
Zamantha, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:18 am
Ah patience,
Well I always found G.S. rather interesting. So honestly I look forward to hearing more about him even if it’s in bits n pieces. Everyone tells their information in a different manner. No sense of urgency.
I would like to see some of those Crazy Magazines! Pretty Please.
Also, what is Gray Smiths history. I know were he went to High School, but what college? And what jobs did he have prior to
The Chronicle & this Crazy Magazine.
Zincerely, Zam :star:
AK Wilks, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:29 am
Ah patience,
Well I always found G.S. rather interesting. So honestly I look forward to hearing more about him even if it’s in bits n pieces. Everyone tells there information in a different manner. No sense of urgency.
I would like to see some of those Crazy Magazines! Pretty Please.
Also, what is Gray Smiths history. I know were he went to High School, but what college? And what jobs did he have prior to
The Chronicle & this Crazy Magazine.Zincerely, Zam :star:
I do agree with Zam.
You have an INTERESTING theory. And Graysmith is an important, interesting and controversial character in the Zodiac saga. Tell us more about him, in whatever way you decide, but the more evidence and facts you give us the better IMO.
The floor is yours banditslayer. Let us in on what you have.
Zamantha, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:31 am
Zamantha, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:17 pm
Looking at the covers of the magazines I see
sculls, crossbones, christmas issue, skeleton, a pumpkin guy on halloween, eyes everywhere, a possible physic prodiction of a plane flying into a tall building, the exorcist, guns, a explosive, a phone booth with a bad guy, some zzzzzzzzzzzz, love at first fright issue, a sick clown with a hatchet, a Z logo, dr. dooms game of death. But which drawings are G.S. ?
Also would like to see GS drawings inside the comic/magazines. Much THX
morf13, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:45 pm
What dates are these magazines from? Never heard of this magazine before. Obviously,the E.T. one is from the 1980s or after. Any of these from 60’s?
sandy betts, Subject: Zodiac’s voice Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:00 pm
R. Graysmiths voice is not even close to what the Zodiac sounds like. If it were, Bryan Hartnell would have noticed it.
Zodiac speaks in a very slow and deliberate manner, he enunciates each syllable, as if he has a speech impediment. It is a very distinctive voice, if you ever hear it and I do believe I have , no one sounds the way the Zodiac does, except Zodiac, slight drawl and all.
Like Hartnell said in a interview, he will never forget what Zodiac sounded like, because it was so different.
If anyone here can figure out a way to copy a tape I have of whom I believe is the Z, and post it here, please let me know ?
I have put in this request before, but no response. Even if my poi is not the Z, this recording will give you an idea of what Hartnell meant about a distinctive sounding voice.
On this tape , my poi says : I like your voice baby , bye bye to you too. ( As in hasta la vista baby, from the Exterminator )
People have told me, that it could be someone who knows the case and how the Zodiac was suppose to sound like, and was playing a sick joke on me.
This man has stood next to me while talking directly to me , believe me he spoke in a very strange way ! It was at that very moment I felt he was the Zodiac for sure. He walked up behind me while I was working as a waitress in Oakland Ca.Jan. 1988 . He touched my shoulder and I let out a scream !( He didn’t even flinch) He then said to me : I am ve ry sor ry if I frigh tened you.
(In a deep husky sounding voice , like many yrs of smoking ) That night he wore clothes very much like the clothes Kathleen Johns described her abductor had worn, dark wool pleated pants, very shiny wing tipped shoes. He had a dark band that held his glass’s on , it was about one inch wide, (it could have been rubber or elastic). His head was shaved that night, and he had a white powder all over his face , head, and hands. He was a chain smoker, so his teeth were very stained, almost the color of co-co pops. He was short but not so stocky, more like what K Johns said he looked like. His age looked to be about 45 to 55 in 1988. The woman he was with looked a bit older 55 to 60.I didn’t notice his lazy eye at that time. In no way was he Robert Graysmith !
sandy betts, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:05 pm
Great pictures of magazines Zamantha, I didn’t mean to take away from your post at all sorry. Please do give us the dates, that will be important to compare to the Zodiac’s writings.
Seagull, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:30 pm
Crazy was published from October 1973 to 1983.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Magazine
The illustrators could have taken their ideas from the Zodiac letters and cards that had already been sent, which was the majority of them. Graysmith in particular was very knowledgeable about the contents and personalization of the cards.
traveller1st, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:31 pm
This one I will give you the Stockton Record. Yessssss He was a sports cartoonist. for three 3 years from Fall of 1965 to Sept 16 of 1968. Of which the next day he started where. What day is his Birthday?
Why do we need to play a guessing game? Are the facts somehow less powerful if they aren’t revealed in some extraordinary manner? Please just state what evidence you have, it saves us all time and bandwidth.
I will second that and very well put Luke.
traveller1st, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:42 pm
If anyone here can figure out a way to copy a tape I have of whom I believe is the Z, and post it here, please let me know ?
I have put in this request before, but no response.
Get one of these things Sandy then you can copy the cassette to your computer as an mp3 file that you can share.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Tape-to-PC- … 35b9ab1748
Zamantha, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:05 pm
A gamer still likes to play games and perhaps leave clews after the deed is done.
A way of taunting us…leaving clews even afterwards?
Or perhaps the drawings were just mocking the Z’s.
Interesting to ponder…
sandy betts, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:37 pm
If anyone here can figure out a way to copy a tape I have of whom I believe is the Z, and post it here, please let me know ?
I have put in this request before, but no response.
Get one of these things Sandy then you can copy the cassette to your computer as an mp3 file that you can share.
Thank you very much Traveller !!!!!
traveller1st, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:12 pm
Very welcome Sandy.
I’m not sure about posting audio on the site but if you get it converted you can email it to me and I’ll host it on my server and supply a link to it for people to hear it.
sandy betts, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:44 am
Very welcome Sandy.
I’m not sure about posting audio on the site but if you get it converted you can email it to me and I’ll host it on my server and supply a link to it for people to hear it.
I will need help with it that is for sure ! Thanks again traveller.
KEY.SMITH697, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:00 pm
REALLY!!! PROOF PLEASE. Show us or give us info on what you have on your POI/ :suspect:
Seagull, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:38 pm
Key, as AK posted in the other remaining thread of Banditslayer’s, he has been banned so you won’t be getting any replies from them.
I sincerely doubt that Banditslayer was the first person to suspect Graysmith of being the Zodiac and am confident that he has been cleared.
KEY.SMITH697, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:54 pm
:flower: tHANK yOU… tACO cAT :cat: sO gRAYsMITH HAS BEEN CLEAR. i’M gLAD P.S. THANK YOU A.k.
Luke68, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:59 am
:flower: tHANK yOU… tACO cAT :cat: sO gRAYsMITH HAS BEEN CLEAR. i’M gLAD P.S. THANK YOU A.k.
Taco cat.
entropy, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:32 am
People who "know too much" about a very public case like this are almost always going to find themselves as prime POIs in somebody’s mind. That includes investigators, police chiefs, authors, website administrators, even knowledgeable website posters. A lot of folks wound up being DNA swabbed in the BTK case just because somebody pointed the finger at them (a huge waste of money, IMHO, but probably easier than investigating every tip).
The idea that Zodiac is actively involved somehow in his own investigation might make for a great piece of fiction but that’s about it. Then again… if you call any law enforcement agency dozens of times about your theory, they are probably going to come visit you eventually.
sandy betts, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:45 am
People who "know too much" about a very public case like this are almost always going to find themselves as prime POIs in somebody’s mind. That includes investigators, police chiefs, authors, website administrators, even knowledgeable website posters. A lot of folks wound up being DNA swabbed in the BTK case just because somebody pointed the finger at them (a huge waste of money, IMHO, but probably easier than investigating every tip).
The idea that Zodiac is actively involved somehow in his own investigation might make for a great piece of fiction but that’s about it. Then again… if you call any law enforcement agency dozens of times about your theory, they are probably going to come visit you eventually.
Very true, I am pretty sure that if I were a man, I would make a very good suspect with all the news paper clippings I have on the case, the guns , and .22 super X casings I have collected from Lake Herman road. And that is only a small portion of Z stuff I have collected over the yrs, not to mention my obsession and misspellings LOL. My ex husband didn’t have any interest in the case, but was questioned just the same, because someone gave his name as a potential suspect. I would like to know who that person was ?
tahoe27, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:54 am
I agree entropy. I think many of us who read Graysmith’s book thought for a second it could be him.
Maybe Zodiac was a woman….looking totally different when she did her thing. Sandy…my new POI.
AK Wilks, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:14 pm
I thought his theory was pretty off the wall and far out. But interesting, and many here wanted to see what he had, but he apparently had nothing. We gave him space to present his theory and evidence to back it up, but he just kept making accusations, posted no evidence, then went into spamming and breaking forum rules. He was given over half a dozen warnings, but he ignored them. So now he will have to call up George Noory on Coast to Coast AM again…maybe he will now accuse this forum of being part of the Graysmith conspiracy…But saying that Darlene knew Stine, and his "proof" that Graysmith knew Stine was that both worked for newspapers at the same time in towns he said were close…but I checked and it was over 300 miles apart!
sandy betts, Subject: Re: The Game or How long can it b played? Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:37 pm
I thought his theory was pretty off the wall and far out. But interesting, and many here wanted to see what he had, but he apparently had nothing. We gave him space to present his theory and evidence to back it up, but he just kept making accusations, posted no evidence, then went into spamming and breaking forum rules. He was given over half a dozen warnings, but he ignored them. So now he will have to call up George Noory on Coast to Coast AM again…maybe he will now accuse this forum of being part of the Graysmith conspiracy…But saying that Darlene knew Stine, and his "proof" that Graysmith knew Stine was that both worked for newspapers at the same time in towns he said were close…but I checked and it was over 300 miles apart!
He probably spoke to Darlene’s sister Pam ,who claimed that Darlene knew Paul Stine and that he use to drive Darlene all over San Francisco. She didn’t know that he didn’t start driving a cab until after Darlene had died.