I wonder what he’d look like with a hood on? And how much fatter he might have become between that ’65 photo and, say, 1969?
Ha!

Weil is named as doing an interview with Dylan.

http://www.examiner.com/article/how-bad … ly-29-1966

Jeanette Kamahele had been abducted by a guy with afro style hair..

QT

I’m not convinced that Eric Weil initiated the whole Dunbar show fiasco. Belli’s appearance, of course, was precipitated by SOMEBODY calling Oakland P.D. around 2 a.m. that morning requesting that Belli or F. Lee Bailey appear on the Dunbar show. Two dispatchers and a surviving victim (presumably Hartnell) listened to Weil’s voice and determined he didn’t sound like Zodiac. I’m pretty positive that one of those dispatchers was the person who took the original 2 a.m. call (can’t find confirmation of that offhand but I know I’ve read it before). Weil, therefore, seems unlikely to have initiated the whole episode and may have just hijacked someone else’s request to speak with Belli. If so, was that caller another random nut or Zodiac himself, who was undoubtedly in the hot seat ten days after Stine’s murder? No idea but I think it’s possible that Eric Weil may have just ruined a potential contact with the real Zodiac.

It was Slaight, Slover and Hartnell who listened to the call. A SF Chron article about that here-

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It was Slaight, Slover and Hartnell who listened to the call. A SF Chron article about that here-

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=35

Thank you, Seagull. So the three individuals who heard Zodiac’s voice all agreed that Weil didn’t sound like Zodiac but I’m sure that the person who took the call to Oakland P.D. concluded that the caller did not sound at all like Eric Weil. Here’s one indication of that although it brings up the question of whether the caller really provided anything to confirm he was actually Zodiac. This article indicates that was the case but I’ve learned over the years that newspapers sometimes make stuff up to connect the dots.

by morf13 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:44 pm

"This UPI dispatch published in the Lodi News-Sentinel of October 23, 1969, says the following:
"Oakland Police, who received a call asking that Belli appear on the program[,] said they were certain the request was made by ‘Zodiac,’ as the caller revealed undisclosed knowledge about the killings. However, the patrolman who took the call at Oakland headquarters said he did not believe it was the same voice later on the television program."

I can understand your skepticism Entropy. A picture is worth a 1000 words!

A picture of the three listening in an article written at the time of Nancy Slover’s death.

http://beniciaherald.me/2012/03/28/beni … ies-at-69/

Great picture isn’t it? One of my favourites.
And yes, there are lots of questions here, like who was the original caller to the Oakland PD (why Oakland? Eh?), and about the call from Napa after the Berryessa attack (was it made by the attacker? Yes, probably), and whether someone with a mask over their head sounds like someone on a telephone.
* shrug *
I want the Eric answers, though! If he went on to have a happy life, and didn’t, for instance, express any desire to stab people in his later years, fine.

See, just at the moment, I’m toying with the idea that if the Berryessa attacker was "a copycat" of some kind, then Eric Weil, who later acted in quite a copycat way himself, and just happened to be a patient of Napa Hospital when doing so, (which means he was nuts), and who also "admitted" killing just one person, which lead to his nasty headaches, poor love, well I’d like him out of the way. It’s just an idle notion, I know, but there it is.

Do we even know if Eric Weil is his real name. We know ‘Sam’ or ‘Zodiac’ aren’t.

I only ask, or wonder, because in the Dylan press conference he refers to the album cover photo as being an equivalent. What the hell is that I wondered. Well basically it’s apparently where a photo represents something else other than what it depicts on a purely basic and visual level.

The most, maybe the first?, notable example of this for the time and a long time is apparently this:

http://www.leegallery.com/alfred-stiegl … -biography

Stieglitz’s subject matter was varied… He eventually came to believe that his photographs could be metaphorical equivalents of his internal feelings. “I have to have experienced something that moves me, and is beginning to take form within me, before I can see what are called ‘shapes.’ Shapes, as such, mean nothing to me, unless I happen to be feeling something within, of which an equivalent appears, in outer form…. My cloud photographs, my Songs of the Sky, are equivalents of my life experience. All of my photographs are equivalents of my basic philosophy of life. All art is but a picture of certain basic relationships; an equivalent of the artist’s most profound experience of life” (quoted in Norman [1960], pp. 36-37). Stieglitz promulgated the idea that a straight, unaltered photograph could be a means of personal expression and thus helped to confirm as art the work of Paul Strand, Edward Weston, Ansel Adams, Minor White, and other photographers in the straight style that dominated photography as an art in the 1920s-1960s period.

Another reference:

http://henrivanlier.com/anthropogeny/ph … h13_an.htm

I give you the photograph as the equivalent of what I saw and felt, is just about what Stieglitz said by 1900. For me, the word "equivalent" is of great importance. It is centrifugal, a flux of forces directed outwards, not centripetal.

ANSEL ADAMS, Polaroid Land Photograph, 1963, 1978.

So……

That’s ‘equivalent’ covered in this context and it’s probably a reasonable assumption that Eric or Sam or Zodiac or whoever this guy was read up on these things and these pioneers in the field of such photographic philosophies.

The philosophy angle is interesting because apart from crazy afro, weird question guy here, the other major ‘hits’ for Eric Weil are this guy.

http://topvictor.hubpages.com/hub/Frenc … -Eric-Weil

I’m just wondering if our Mr Weil even borrowed that name.

Trav – coooool, he’s a Dylan-stalking nutjob with a Zodiac fixation, and he’s into photography and imagery so he’s assumed the name of a bald and walrus-moustached philosopher on the nature of realism?
Gee, I hope LE checked his handwriting carefully before they eliminated him from their enquiries.

Or at least checked his ‘fro’ for wallets and keys.

…and that used prophylactic.

…and that used prophylactic.

…. the square one with a crosshair logo on it.

If I were the police, I’d have kept a close eye on Weil. Not that I suspect him of being Zodiac, but anybody nutty enough to impersonate Zodiac has the potential to commit copycat murders.