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Z13 solution: my name is KAY

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(@fayzr)
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Hello,

I found that the cipher uses multiple layers of substitutions:
– a Z340 key substitution
– a variant of A1Z26 cipher key substutition
– a Zodiac to 0-12 substitution (each zodiac sign is assigned its position in the Zodiac quadrant)
– a Trifid alphabet substitution

As surprising as it may appear, the cipher which is 13 characters long narrows to 3 letters: KAY. It is an alias of Lawrence Kane (Larry "Kay". source: https://lawrencekane.wordpress.com/about/ ).

Please, let me know what you think, thanks !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OSEseQdUqc

PDF: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WMMDGx … sp=sharing

 
Posted : January 3, 2021 6:15 am
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Interesting links between Z32 and Z13 I wanted to share with you:
– Kane was the primary suspect for South Lake Tahoe abduction of Donna Lass (which is the proposed solution for Z32)
– He actually lived in South Lake Tahoe, which I didn’t know when solving both ciphers
– He worked in the Navy, and would have been familiar with geomagnetic coordinates
– Both ciphers solutions use 2 same substitutions: Z340 key and A1Z26 cipher variant

 
Posted : January 5, 2021 1:00 am
jacob
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Interesting. I believe Kaye was his legal name and Kane was an alias.

 
Posted : January 5, 2021 2:38 am
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Thank you. Actually his legal name was KLEIN.

Source: https://lawrencekane.wordpress.com

 
Posted : January 5, 2021 3:01 am
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My new one word reply when someone suggests Larry Kane:

ACCENT

 
Posted : January 5, 2021 5:07 am
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ACCENT

Sorry I’m not sure I get your point, I’m a newbie on this Zodiac case

 
Posted : January 5, 2021 5:19 am
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Interesting. I believe Kaye was his legal name and Kane was an alias.

You might want to have a look at a video I just posted which is a theory on how the Z13 and Z32 ciphers are both connected to Lake Tahoe : viewtopic.php?f=25&t=5195

 
Posted : January 5, 2021 5:24 am
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Kane had an East Coast accent. No witness mentions it, and seem to say the opposite. There are recordings of Kane that Tom Voigt has re-posted recently.

 
Posted : January 5, 2021 5:54 am
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Kane had an East Coast accent. No witness mentions it, and seem to say the opposite. There are recordings of Kane that Tom Voigt has re-posted recently.

Ok I understand. I dont think its sufficient to clear him. Not only is it easy to fake an accent, but The Zodiac has admited that he was changing his appearance, so he might also have changed his bahaviour, way of talking etc.

 
Posted : January 5, 2021 6:02 am
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Kane had an East Coast accent. No witness mentions it, and seem to say the opposite. There are recordings of Kane that Tom Voigt has re-posted recently.

Kane suffered a head injury in 1962 that caused him severe mental health issues. A rare side effect of head injuries is foreign accent syndrome, sudden and marked changes in speaking voice. The accent issue ruled out Kane for me, but voice change from head injury is a remote possibility. Was an East Coast accent mentioned in later documents about Kane?

 
Posted : January 5, 2021 6:28 am
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It’s fair to say Kane’s popularity as a suspect has diminished over the years, especially since audio of his voice was made public. He has a very thick accent and given the racial climate of the 60’s (not that I was there), it seems as if at least one eyewitness would have surely made some comment on his ethnic appearance to say the least. Having said that, there were reasons he was initially looked at, he has a strong criminal history that included prowling, and he worked nearby, I think in the same building as possible Zodiac victim Donna Lass, which kind of leads to your results so far.

 
Posted : January 5, 2021 6:53 am
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My new one word reply when someone suggests Larry Kane:

ACCENT

Not to mention his handwriting.

https://lawrencekane.wordpress.com/#voice-recording-no-2

https://lawrencekane.wordpress.com

 
Posted : January 5, 2021 7:11 am
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Not to mention his handwriting.

I am not sure handwriting comparision would be relevant in the case of the Zodiac. He intentionnaly sent letters to the FBI, knowing they would be scrutinized in all possible ways. He spent lots of efforts creating an new alphabet and all the ciphers: the least effort he could have done is adopting a handwriting which is not his usual one.

 
Posted : January 5, 2021 10:39 am
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On the extreme ends of handwriting, I think something can be said. It’s surprisingly hard to suppress certain traits, and disguising ones handwriting is a pain in the butt with little payoff. Constructing ciphers is fun, well worth the effort. If he wanted to go to a great length to hide handwriting he could have found easier ways. So I think he might have gone to some effort to disguise it, but really was he ever at much risk of having his hand writing recognised? I don’t put much stock in handwriting matches, but when a suspects handwriting is remarkably different, I feel it’s at least a small mark against them.

Kane has been scrutinized for years and it seems the more you look at him the less he looks like Z.

I was thinking a little about the accent, it’s so over the top that if he was Zodiac he would almost be forced to suppress it. So in a kind of cockeyed way, maybe that could explain Zodiac’s monotonal drawl. But that’s a pretty cockeyed way of looking at it.

 
Posted : January 5, 2021 1:58 pm
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Kane has been scrutinized for years and it seems the more you look at him the less he looks like Z.

Interresting, I have the opposite feeling. So for example, the Z13 solution that I propose uses 2 steps which are borrowed from electronics (NRZI protocol + binary encoding), but applied to a base 3 and not base 2 (0 and 1 bits).

He had the "exclusive" knowledge (for the time) to perform such ciphering technique:

Studies indicate that those admitted to the Electronics Training Program scored, on average, in the top two or three percent of Intelligence Quotient in the Nation. The fact that he passed the Eddy Test would also seem to suggest that Kane, despite receiving a meager formal education, had a fairly advanced understanding of mathematics and electronic componentry.

Source: https://lawrencekane.wordpress.com/ (which by the way I thank for the valuable resources)

 
Posted : January 16, 2021 9:52 pm
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