Very strange, when I took a picture of the back door it was in line with the JK sign. I sent a email to my buddy Greg who was the one who told me about the estate sale and he gave me the address. I asked him if he wrote down the address, so I can make sure I have given the correct number. That number was 2 Spruce from what I can remember.
I called Ricardo and asked him to join me to go to the sale that day and take pictures. He took several pictures , I never received any copies. Greg took many and sent them to Tom V to post, but they were not posted, Greg thinks they might be in his old computer?

I am very frustrated with all of these dead ends!

Can you go back to my photos and tell me which one again. Was it the black front door that his part of the brick home, which is 2 Spruce or was it the house that is now white and has a more modern style window front door, which is the back/side of 16 Spruce. And remind me again, why this is all significant.

IF i said IF z was an A’s fan start looking for similarities to crimes in kansas city….i still heavily toss around the idea z migrated from kansas city area to attend school in the bay area….might find z in a year book..who knows……not convinced z was a bay area resident….how that for some wild z theory….nutin has worked for last 35 years to find the bastard…may be time to look at kansas city

Very strange, when I took a picture of the back door it was in line with the JK sign. I sent a email to my buddy Greg who was the one who told me about the estate sale and he gave me the address. I asked him if he wrote down the address, so I can make sure I have given the correct number. That number was 2 Spruce from what I can remember.
I called Ricardo and asked him to join me to go to the sale that day and take pictures. He took several pictures , I never received any copies. Greg took many and sent them to Tom V to post, but they were not posted, Greg thinks they might be in his old computer?

I am very frustrated with all of these dead ends!

Can you go back to my photos and tell me which one again. Was it the black front door that his part of the brick home, which is 2 Spruce or was it the house that is now white and has a more modern style window front door, which is the back/side of 16 Spruce. And remind me again, why this is all significant.

Thank you Tommy T, for all your help! It has just been confirmed that the address is indeed 16 Spruce st. The reason I kept sticking to 2 Spruce, was that was how to get to number 16! Greg got back to me this morning and said the address was 16 Spruce. I then went to the criss cross and found Iver Lynche and Joan S at that address. He worked for Shuman and Agnew stock exchange . J Robert Shuman could be Joans father or brother? He was the head of that company along with James l Sharp and Iver Lynche. I never believed that the owner of the home could be Zodiac. I felt perhaps Zodiac rented that apt down stairs? Or being that my suspect was in construction, perhaps did some work for Iver at the home and helped construct the down stairs apt? There were two homes on Jackson st that were under construction at that time. If my suspect is Z he could have stayed in one of the homes under construction or Iver’s apt? I do know from an elderly woman who did live in that area at that time, that those apts. could be rented by the day, week or month. Greg will look for the pictures of the inside, and looking out those windows into J K playground.

While reading the list of the many general partners of that exchange company, The name James Sharp jumped out at me , because there was a James Sharp age 15 murdered in Los Angeles Nov 1969, along with Doreen Gaul age 19. Both were stabbed 50 to 60 times. Their eyes were slashed and the right eye cut out. There was a letter found in Doreen’s room from someone claiming to be Zodiac. Zodiac’s Nov 1969 letters boasted of killing two more. Dr, Howard Davis has some very good information on their murders on his Zodiac-Manson connection site.

IF i said IF z was an A’s fan start looking for similarities to crimes in kansas city….i still heavily toss around the idea z migrated from kansas city area to attend school in the bay area….might find z in a year book..who knows……not convinced z was a bay area resident….how that for some wild z theory….nutin has worked for last 35 years to find the bastard…may be time to look at kansas city

Why Kansas City and not the entire state?? Or even Philadelphia and surroundings as given Z’s age, thats where the A’s were founded prior to moving to KC in the 50’s? What leads you to believe that he is of that location? Do you have particular cases in KC in mind?

Of course Z did not have to be "from" the Bay area, but he had to have lived there at least temporarily, as well as, Riverside, to have the intimate knowledge of the crime scenes. As well, it’s been 50 years, not 35

So, I went through the BRS reports and I looked specifically for those of 6/19/1970 and I found nothing relating to this letter. Can someone help me out? Where is this mentioned in the police reports?

ETA:
Sorry, I realized Morf referenced the UNREDACTED BRS reports. I was looking at the redacted one.

How do I view the unredacted ones?

Just FYI; LE can choose what to redact and what not to? As well, if there is a supplemental report on a open investigation that could be highly sensitive to solving the case, they are NOT required by law to release such report. They can pick and choose what the public may be able to help with and we should be considered lucky to have as much as we do; thanks to Tom and Morf.

But beg the question, I wonder how many other supplemental reports on various other Z activity there is out there, such as the DMV letter.

My question is why do some have access to these reports while others do not?

If the goal is to solve the case, should all available resources be presented?

ETA: I understand how redaction works. But obviously Morf and others have seen the unredacted reports. Why can’t the rest of us?

Very strange, when I took a picture of the back door it was in line with the JK sign. I sent a email to my buddy Greg who was the one who told me about the estate sale and he gave me the address. I asked him if he wrote down the address, so I can make sure I have given the correct number. That number was 2 Spruce from what I can remember.
I called Ricardo and asked him to join me to go to the sale that day and take pictures. He took several pictures , I never received any copies. Greg took many and sent them to Tom V to post, but they were not posted, Greg thinks they might be in his old computer?

I am very frustrated with all of these dead ends!

Can you go back to my photos and tell me which one again. Was it the black front door that his part of the brick home, which is 2 Spruce or was it the house that is now white and has a more modern style window front door, which is the back/side of 16 Spruce. And remind me again, why this is all significant.

It is the more modern white home address 16 Spruce st. It has been recently redone from when they had the estate sale. Even the down stairs apt was refurbished. The bay window is the same size as the one I saw when I was at the estate sale. I doubt that the criss cross directory would list someone who was there for a few days or a week, so I am not saying that Mr. Felchlin could be Zodiac either. I do not believe that the Zodiac was a resident of SF, I am very sure he lived in the Vallejo area. What I do think is that Zodiac had a few jobs in SF and used that to throw the police off of his trail in Vallejo.(Its not that far to drive to SF and mail letters). Many of us went to SF weekly for entertainment and to shop. The night life there was a lot of fun, great music!

I just stumbled onto something. Remember that one of my RH suspects worked at UC Berkeley in the 60’s. I found that Walter A Haas had a close connection to UC Berkeley called Hass School of Business for a MBA program. His slogan was "New thinking for a new economy". Its not easy trying to figure out which are clues or not?

The mascot for UCB was the golden bear , it was created Sept 26th 1941. ( Close to Sept 27th?)

IF i said IF z was an A’s fan start looking for similarities to crimes in kansas city….i still heavily toss around the idea z migrated from kansas city area to attend school in the bay area….might find z in a year book..who knows……not convinced z was a bay area resident….how that for some wild z theory….nutin has worked for last 35 years to find the bastard…may be time to look at kansas city

Why Kansas City and not the entire state?? Or even Philadelphia and surroundings as given Z’s age, thats where the A’s were founded prior to moving to KC in the 50’s? What leads you to believe that he is of that location? Do you have particular cases in KC in mind?

Of course Z did not have to be "from" the Bay area, but he had to have lived there at least temporarily, as well as, Riverside, to have the intimate knowledge of the crime scenes. As well, it’s been 50 years, not 35

Im not even convinced he lived there…"intimate knowledge"..please……every body has been going down that route for years with end result failure….thank you for informing me its been 50 plus years…i have only been following the case for 35 years..my bad..you win

IF i said IF z was an A’s fan start looking for similarities to crimes in kansas city….i still heavily toss around the idea z migrated from kansas city area to attend school in the bay area….might find z in a year book..who knows……not convinced z was a bay area resident….how that for some wild z theory….nutin has worked for last 35 years to find the bastard…may be time to look at kansas city

Why Kansas City and not the entire state?? Or even Philadelphia and surroundings as given Z’s age, thats where the A’s were founded prior to moving to KC in the 50’s? What leads you to believe that he is of that location? Do you have particular cases in KC in mind?

Of course Z did not have to be "from" the Bay area, but he had to have lived there at least temporarily, as well as, Riverside, to have the intimate knowledge of the crime scenes. As well, it’s been 50 years, not 35

Im not even convinced he lived there…"intimate knowledge"..please……every body has been going down that route for years with end result failure….thank you for informing me its been 50 plus years…i have only been following the case for 35 years..my bad..you win

Geese, wasn’t meant to be harsh toward you. Well, explain why you think as such regarding to what you originally posted. I’m always all ears and open to new interpretation. Have you ever been to the crime scenes??

And how would you explain all of the sequences of events surrounding the murders to be that someone was not at least living in the area temporarily from somewhere else? "Not convinced he was a Bay Area residence." How about used to live in the Bay area, moved somewhere else in NorCal at the time but had reason (work….family) to be needing to travel to the Bay area constantly? Or, moved to SouCal and took jobs up North. Possibilities are endless even for someone living in the state itself.

It is a proven fact that serial killers start killing in their comfort zone, which is where they live or work.

It is extremely doubtful he was living in a place like Ireland or on the east coast and flew to Calif. to kill a couple and fly back, for example.

His foreplay was to stalk some of his victims before killing them. We don’t know for sure that Betty Lou Jensen wasn’t stalked. There is plenty of proof from witnesses that Darlene was for sure!
Being an Oakland A’s fan is more than likely he is from the bay area. I bet he is also a Oakland Raiders fan as well. Calls to Oakland PD before the Dunbar show , put Zodiac in the bay area.
He could have been a mental patient at Napa St Hospital ( Not Eric Weil) Those patients had weekend passes and could go and come as they liked. I lived two blocks from that hospital, so I know. The clothes line that was taken from my side yard ,was bought at the store where the mental patients shopped, which was across the street from the hospital on Imola.

It is a proven fact that serial killers start killing in their comfort zone, which is where they live or work.

It is extremely doubtful he was living in a place like Ireland or on the east coast and flew to Calif. to kill a couple and fly back, for example.

His foreplay was to stalk some of his victims before killing them. We don’t know for sure that Betty Lou Jensen wasn’t stalked. There is plenty of proof from witnesses that Darlene was for sure!
Being an Oakland A’s fan is more than likely he is from the bay area. I bet he is also a Oakland Raiders fan as well. Calls to Oakland PD before the Dunbar show , put Zodiac in the bay area.
He could have been a mental patient at Napa St Hospital ( Not Eric Weil) Those patients had weekend passes and could go and come as they liked. I lived two blocks from that hospital, so I know. The clothes line that was taken from my side yard ,was bought at the store where the mental patients shopped, which was across the street from the hospital on Imola.

But z has not been caught…if that ever happens then we will know what is fact…im not arguing with you or anybody on here you can believe what you want..personally i think its may be time to considet z did not live in the area..i would even question if z was even a serial killer at this point

It is a proven fact that serial killers start killing in their comfort zone, which is where they live or work.

It is extremely doubtful he was living in a place like Ireland or on the east coast and flew to Calif. to kill a couple and fly back, for example.

His foreplay was to stalk some of his victims before killing them. We don’t know for sure that Betty Lou Jensen wasn’t stalked. There is plenty of proof from witnesses that Darlene was for sure!
Being an Oakland A’s fan is more than likely he is from the bay area. I bet he is also a Oakland Raiders fan as well. Calls to Oakland PD before the Dunbar show , put Zodiac in the bay area.
He could have been a mental patient at Napa St Hospital ( Not Eric Weil) Those patients had weekend passes and could go and come as they liked. I lived two blocks from that hospital, so I know. The clothes line that was taken from my side yard ,was bought at the store where the mental patients shopped, which was across the street from the hospital on Imola.

But z has not been caught…if that ever happens then we will know what is fact…im not arguing with you or anybody on here you can believe what you want..personally i think its may be time to considet z did not live in the area..i would even question if z was even a serial killer at this point

I am not arguing with you or anyone either, think what ever you like. If you follow the evidence you will have better idea of where he lived back in the late 60’s.Read the police and FBI reports they can’t be wrong about what they reported. Are you related to Tom Horan?

It is a proven fact that serial killers start killing in their comfort zone, which is where they live or work.

It is extremely doubtful he was living in a place like Ireland or on the east coast and flew to Calif. to kill a couple and fly back, for example.

His foreplay was to stalk some of his victims before killing them. We don’t know for sure that Betty Lou Jensen wasn’t stalked. There is plenty of proof from witnesses that Darlene was for sure!
Being an Oakland A’s fan is more than likely he is from the bay area. I bet he is also a Oakland Raiders fan as well. Calls to Oakland PD before the Dunbar show , put Zodiac in the bay area.
He could have been a mental patient at Napa St Hospital ( Not Eric Weil) Those patients had weekend passes and could go and come as they liked. I lived two blocks from that hospital, so I know. The clothes line that was taken from my side yard ,was bought at the store where the mental patients shopped, which was across the street from the hospital on Imola.

But z has not been caught…if that ever happens then we will know what is fact…im not arguing with you or anybody on here you can believe what you want..personally i think its may be time to considet z did not live in the area..i would even question if z was even a serial killer at this point

I am not arguing with you or anyone either, think what ever you like. If you follow the evidence you will have better idea of where he lived back in the late 60’s.Read the police and FBI reports they can’t be wrong about what they reported. Are you related to Tom Horan?

Yes they can be wrong and usually are…..i am not convinced z is a local…i am afraid after all these years he will go unpunished except by God…no i do not think z is a hoax and horan is right up there with blaine and the tooth ferry…