Really intrigued by this: viewtopic.php?f=81&t=306

Hi Fisherman and Mist: Here is my favorite "solution," except that I do not think it is a real solution. If Zodiac really transposed the message at period 19, without interruptions or misalignments caused by nulls or inscription errors ( skips ), and we are able to find "flowerpower" across the middle of the "solution" near the bottom, then we would also be able to solve the entire message. Unless, maybe, there are a lot of polyphones maybe. Not sure, but I was intrigued by some of the contextual words. A lot of "solutions" also have several contextual words, however, and none are true solutions. Nobody has found a legitimate solution yet for the 340.

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtop … 896#p51896

I was messing around with the new solver a while ago. I expanded the 340 +, B and backward P ( all high count low cycle ). Then I redrafted into 19 columns, and transposed 90 degrees. Then Mirrored.

EDIT:

4 33 310 28 2 16 22 6 214 31 60 8 56 11 44 37 201 1
37 110 11 32 4 53 216 3 3 55 13 28 10 50 30 202 301 2
25 11 33 37 8 61 18 41 54 40 47 40 51 51 8 38 21 3
1 51 13 57 38 28 11 11 50 6 17 13 4 9 45 39 22 4
18 10 222 15 39 36 50 30 48 38 29 11 16 206 105 15 23 101
111 17 223 16 50 8 51 50 2 8 37 21 25 52 23 26 24 6
10 26 33 3 55 53 307 14 11 212 210 15 21 53 203 21 25 7
42 29 26 36 219 48 36 53 25 7 61 16 22 10 204 33 26 8
40 43 56 14 11 217 21 37 27 41 211 41 50 54 3 13 27 9
39 48 40 220 36 218 58 28 305 213 39 32 207 106 31 22 28 10
23 311 26 13 28 34 44 215 108 23 3 49 31 44 16 40 29 11
44 46 36 12 45 308 3 52 61 107 16 22 57 3 46 1 30 12
62 27 9 63 40 59 6 306 14 43 51 23 24 7 47 41 31 13
11 23 23 56 309 12 15 51 37 29 303 208 58 51 37 42 32 14
31 312 42 29 31 30 51 40 31 51 36 46 16 6 205 103 33 15
58 30 1 221 21 35 18 63 23 304 34 18 38 23 40 104 302 16
224 55 14 51 23 53 7 47 16 34 62 27 36 55 48 43 34 17
56 54 6 109 47 32 42 29 55 63 40 59 30 49 7 35 18
36 21 26 7 56 50 34 36 38 53 209 15 17 17 6 36 102

I F T H A N T I C H A R E O U D A R
D P O L I S H E E S T H E D E P L A
Y O F D R A W N S T I T A A R E L E
R A T H E H O O D I S T I M P A T I
W E R E A N D E C E S O N T H E R O
U S A N D R A D A R D L Y P R O D I
E O F E S S E C O N G E L S E L Y W
A S O N I C N S Y W A N T E D F O R
T H E C O U L D O N A N D S E T O M
A C T I N G T H E M A L I G H T H E
R B O T H O U T U R E T H U N T S O
U A N D P R E P A I N T H E A R E D
C O M E T H I S C H A R D W I N H T
O R R E N D E A D S B U T A D A L C
H W A S H E A T H A N A N I N G F E
T E R F L O W E R P O W E R T H I N
G S C A R S W I N O C O N S C H O S
E S I M I L A S S E T H E T W O W N
L O W E D O N E S S E S S I N G

EDITED:

Context with Lake Berryessa or other killings. Lake Berryessa was about 5 weeks before Zodiac mailed the 340.

DRAWN
THE HOOD IS
WANTED FOR
ACTING
LIGHT
HUNTS
DEAD
SHEATH
CARSWIN ( CARS WINDOW? )

Zodiac approached them with gun drawn, and the police drew a picture of him ( not sure if published before 340 ).
Could he have described what the hood was made of, where he got the idea, or what it represented?
He was acting like he was an escaped prisoner from Montana, and wanted.
The attack occurred at dusk, at low light. Or maybe solved would be the word fight.
He hunted people and killed them dead.
The knife had a sheath.
Could he have discussed the window of the Karman Ghia?

Very interesting context with both location and period

FLOWER POWER THING

Excerpts from Wikipedia

Flower power was a slogan used during the late 1960s and early 1970s as a symbol of passive resistance and non-violence ideology. It is rooted in the opposition movement to the Vietnam War. The expression was coined by the American beat poet Allen Ginsberg in 1965 as a means to transform war protests into peaceful affirmative spectacles. Hippies embraced the symbolism by dressing in clothing with embroidered flowers and vibrant colors, wearing flowers in their hair, and distributing flowers to the public, becoming known as flower children. The term later became generalized as a modern reference to the hippie movement and the so-called counterculture of drugs, psychedelic music, psychedelic art and social permissiveness.

Flower Power originated in Berkeley, California, as a symbolic action of protest against the Vietnam War. In his November 1965 essay titled How to Make a March/Spectacle, Ginsberg advocated that protesters should be provided with "masses of flowers" to hand out to policemen, press, politicians and spectators. The use of props like flowers, toys, flags, candy and music were meant to turn anti-war rallies into a form of street theater thereby reducing the fear, anger and threat that is inherent within protests. In particular, Ginsberg wanted to counter the "specter" of the Hells Angels motorcycle gang who supported the war, equated war protesters with communists and had threatened to violently disrupt planned anti-war demonstrations at the University of California, Berkeley. Using Ginsberg’s methods, the protest received positive attention and the use of "flower power" became an integral symbol in the counterculture movement.

The iconic center of the Flower Power movement was the Haight Ashbury district in San Francisco, California. By the mid-1960s, the area, marked by the intersection of Haight and Ashbury streets, had become a focal point for psychedelic rock music. Musicians and bands like Jefferson Airplane, the Grateful Dead and Janis Joplin all lived a short distance from the famous intersection. During the 1967 Summer of Love, thousands of hippies gathered there, popularized by hit songs such as "San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair)".

Miscellaneous

POLISH
COULD
PAINT
COMET ( BECOME? )
PLAY
THEM

And there are fragments of words, sometimes all of the letters of contextual words in one row. Could this be some type of diagonal transposition, or could chunks of the message be rearranged somehow to get a solution?

I F T H A N T I C H A R E O U D A R
D P O L I S H E E S T H E D E P L A
Y O F D R A W N S T I T A A R E L E
R A T H E H O O D I S T I M P A T I
W E R E A N D E C E S O N T H E R O
U S A N D R A D A R D L Y P R O D I
E O F E S S E C O N G E L S E L Y W
A S O N I C N S Y W A N T E D F O R
T H E C O U L D O N A N D S E T O M
A C T I N G T H E M A L I G H T H E
R B O T H O U T U R E T H U N T S O
U A N D P R E P A I N T H E A R E D
C O M E T H I S C H A R D W I N H T
O R R E N D E A D S B U T A D A L C
H W A S H E A T H A N A N I N G F E
T E R F L O W E R P O W E R T H I N
G S C A R S W I N O C O N S C H O S
E S I M I L A S S E T H E T W O W N
L O W E D O N E S S E S S I N G

STITCH? IMPATIENT?
CONFESS? FALSELY?
TORTURE?
ALLOWED? FOLLOWED?

Jarlve’s 6 gram solve, with some other words or parts of words

ERCHANTICTUREOUDAN
DSOMEONEESTHEDIPLA
YORDROWNSTATAARELE
NATHEHOODISTENTATE
WEREANDICESONTHERE
ISANDRADARDLYPRODI
EORESOFCOMPELONLYW
ASONICNOYWONTERROR
THECOULDINANDSETIN
ACTINGTHECAMBUTTHE
RBOTHOUGHRESTUNTSO
UANDTHEPOINTHEANID
LINETHISCHARDWANTT
ORRENDEADSBUTADAMC
THASTIATTANANIMPRE
TINGLOWERPOWERTHIN
GSCAROWANOLINSCHOS
ESISAMASSETHISWOWN
LOWEDONEOFESSING

thanks smokie – this is exactly the kind of thing i was interested to read.

Basically, while I feel the 340 is clearly a really difficult cipher – either by design or through some inherent error – I have been curious about a more context based approach – I mean, didn’t the Hardens start with "kill" as a sort of "given"?

I also feel there’s a lack of consideration of 340 in the context of berryessa…

It seems his presentation of himself and also the 340 both kicked into overdrive – suddenly a costume and a much harder cipher.

looking forward to other ppls thoughts!

thanks smokie – this is exactly the kind of thing i was interested to read.

Basically, while I feel the 340 is clearly a really difficult cipher – either by design or through some inherent error – I have been curious about a more context based approach – I mean, didn’t the Hardens start with "kill" as a sort of "given"?

I also feel there’s a lack of consideration of 340 in the context of berryessa…

It seems his presentation of himself and also the 340 both kicked into overdrive – suddenly a costume and a much harder cipher.

looking forward to other ppls thoughts!

the difference is the 408 the cipher could be solved simply by knowing the correct symbol to letter, thus the word "kill" is directly in the message. the belief is that he did something more complex with the 340 so you likely wouldn’t see the word "kill" directly even if you knew which symbol stands for which letter. for example, if he rotated columns, the word "kill" might show up as "likl" and that’s just a really simple example. if he used a more complicated scheme on top of his initial substitution then we’d have to know what that is to make any sense of it. that’s what jarlve, smokie, oranchak et al have been working on – figuring out that second part.

masootz, I’m well aware of transposition. My question includes that possibility – since many people want to "read" what they get after untransposing…

the reading of the "solves" are what cause someone to pursue or abandon a particular line of attack, right?

and it’s "readability" in some way is what points us to the very idea of "solving" the cipher.