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(@anderson110)
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Wow. You guys actually did it. Absolutely amazing! Congratulations!

It’s kind of incredible to see how a lot of little intuitions built up over time led to the solution. It would be really interesting to go back over all of the little apparent anomalies and see which of them have some connection to the actual structure of the cipher, and which were complete ghosts.

 
Posted : December 11, 2020 9:30 pm
Quicktrader
(@quicktrader)
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Can somebody please explain, as I do not see it, yet? At least not with the key given in the video?

QT

*ZODIACHRONOLOGY*

 
Posted : December 11, 2020 10:55 pm
buyerninety
(@buyerninety)
Posts: 166
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Perhaps this may be of some aid to you, QT.

Section One:

I R O N C A O O I I E R G R T M L.

E C H E T T A T N W N N I A A B W

E I T E O H S R T W T W G T A I S

D C C L O A P A O Y C A H H O.A M

B N O H A L P L E V F I H S E I U

C P O O F A A.S A L Y I F N M N T

T V H A U T T M S E R T O N A.G E

T T M S B P T A H B E N A H U G N

L I O H E H R O M F E E I D D E A

Text;
I HOPE YOU ARE HAVING LOTS OF FA.N IN TRYING TO CATCH ME
THAT WASNT ME ON THE TV SHOW
WHICH BRINGO. UP A POINT ABOUT ME
I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE GAS CHAMBER
BECAA.SE IT WILL SEND ME TO PARADL.CE ALL THE

Section One Notes;
1.) Spelling mistakes that Zodiac has unintentionally or
intentionally made, are marked above by a dot placed
after the incorrect letter.
EDIT- changed text here and above to correctly note that
Zodiac used a letter ‘L’, instead of ‘I’ in word ‘paradice’ in
section one.

———–

Section Two:

S A A S O H O S H A C l i f e i s

S H O U V L R E N N E C E R O A A

M I E A O S E A V.R E O N H S E F

A D N D I T H.E E V F E E T T P O

A T F E O B V.M E E.N E O E L H H

I E R>H<R A T E N Y R N O S R V S

E E N Y A E A T A C O N B O U T M

O E R H G R D Y I H F A W E E W G

H H W W Y A W E I A D I R U T W C

Text;
SOOH.ER BECAUSE E. NOW HAVE ENOUGH SLAVES TO WORV. FOR ME
WHERE EVERYONE ELSE HAS NOTHING WHEN THEY REACH PARADICE
SO THEY ARE AFRAID OF DEATH
I AM NOT AFRAID BECAUSE I V.NOW THAT MY NEW life is

Section Two Notes;
1.) Spelling mistakes that Zodiac has unintentionally or
intentionally made, are marked above by a dot placed
after the incorrect letter.
2.) One letter ‘H’ has been moved leftwards from the end of the
line in which it appeared, to a new position in that same line as shown
like this ‘>H<‘ . doranchak‘s video explains that moving this
letter to this new position was found to fix a number of
apparent spelling errors in the plaintext. It is unknown if
this positional mistake by the Zodiac was intentional or
unintentional.
3.) The phrase "life is" seen above does not follow the
ciphertext methodology of section one and section two
of moving across two letters and down one letter to get
to the next sequential letter of the text. Therefore "life is"
may possibly be intended to be read separately from the
main text.
4.) In a version of doranchak‘s video this line letter
sequence may appear at or after about timestamp 08:00;

I E H R R A T E N Y R N O S R V S

I believe the actual correct line letter sequence is that as shown at
timestamp ~07:36 , which is;

I E R H R A T E N Y R N O S R V S

—————–

Section Three:

E F I L W I L L E B N A E A S Y E
N O N I E C I D A R A P d e a t h

Text;
LIFE WILL BE AN EASY ONE IN PARADICE death

Section Three Notes;
1.) This sections methodology is simply to write each
individual word either forwards or backwards.
2.) The word "death" may possibly be intended to be read
separately from the main text, and is possibly intended
to be matched to the phrase in section two of ‘life is’.
A result of treating the words ‘life is death‘ as separate
from the main text, is that then the main text is more
grammatically correct and understandable.
http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtop … =10#p82701
———-

 
Posted : December 12, 2020 7:12 am
(@finder)
Posts: 21
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Congratulations to everyone who’s worked so hard on this! I’ve followed you guys for years and I’m blown away by your diligence, ingenuity, and keen eyes! Wonderful work!

 
Posted : December 12, 2020 7:53 am
(@stitchmallone)
Posts: 798
Prominent Member
 

Amazing Job all!

 
Posted : December 12, 2020 12:33 pm
(@f-reichmann)
Posts: 30
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Congratulations to all involved! What an achievement, what a result, what a beauty! I join you celebrating your success, and say thank you for the present to get to know the solution to a riddle, that kept me electrified, and coding!

 
Posted : December 12, 2020 5:03 pm
Quicktrader
(@quicktrader)
Posts: 2598
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I still do not see any solution – where for example do you think to see the word ‘EVERYONE’? I searched for about ten minutes – only for this word! – and could not even find that one!

The only two ‘Y’s followed by an ‘O’ on the next line (line 6,15) are not followed by a ‘N’ on the second line – at all.

Thus, I can’t even find the ONE out of it!

QT

*ZODIACHRONOLOGY*

 
Posted : December 13, 2020 12:30 am
(@yxovec)
Posts: 5
Active Member
 

It is easier to find if you follow the deciphered text from the start and do not try to hop on somewhere in the middle. I have tried to make a visual aid that answers your question:

The word "EVERYONE" is in the middle section, where one line has to be offset, this is included in the GIF that I made. Also note that in this particular word, the sequence Y -> O -> N you are mentioning is not apparent in the matrix, because text wraps around and continues from the left edge.

 
Posted : December 13, 2020 1:26 am
Quicktrader
(@quicktrader)
Posts: 2598
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It is easier to find if you follow the deciphered text from the start and do not try to hop on somewhere in the middle. I have tried to make a visual aid that answers your question:

The word "EVERYONE" is in the middle section, where one line has to be offset, this is included in the GIF that I made. Also note that in this particular word, the sequence Y -> O -> N you are mentioning is not apparent in the matrix, because text wraps around and continues from the left edge.

Thanks for making the gif. Some text has been entered by themselves (see vid ~min3). Guess I will have to check the pattern in detail but not today.

If you start at the ‘A’s on the left side, it comes up with

AFAAID
ARADI

I still do not see the complete solution.

QT

*ZODIACHRONOLOGY*

 
Posted : December 13, 2020 1:32 am
(@sandy-betts)
Posts: 1375
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So many people felt there was not a message, that it was a joke on us. I always believed the Zodiac who we know has a huge ego, would have had a message in that cipher, but that perhaps it was done in a mirror image or in another language? ( We missed the clue, which was on the envelope with that message being done on the diagonal!) I also felt that David was determined to solve it and would probably be the one to do that, I had no idea he had two others just as determined as he was. Congratulations to all involved!

I thought that the HER^ 9 at the top and the ^MDHN 9 ( "W" was used for an "A" in the Hardens solution, but upside down it is an M) at the bottom I thought was a clue to the word Hernandez which is 9 letters, the 9th letter of the alphabet being "I", or a double meaning "I Hernandez"? The letters on the bottom right looked like Zodiak to me? Could there be another message within this message?

 
Posted : December 13, 2020 10:03 pm
Paul_Averly
(@paul_averly)
Posts: 857
Prominent Member
 

Perhaps this may be of some aid to you, QT.

Section One:

I R O N C A O O I I E R G R T M L

E C H E T T A T N W N N I A A B W

E I T E O H S R T W T W G T A I S

D C C L O A P A O Y C A H H O.A M

B N O H A L P L E V F I H S E I U

C P O O F A A.S A L Y I F N M N T

T V H A U T T M S E R T O N A.G E

T T M S B P T A H B E N A H U G N

L I O H E H R O M F E E I D D E A

Text;
I HOPE YOU ARE HAVING LOTS OF FA.N IN TRYING TO CATCH ME
THAT WASNT ME ON THE TV SHOW
WHICH BRINGO. UP A POINT ABOUT ME
I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE GAS CHAMBER
BECAA.SE IT WILL SEND ME TO PARADCE ALL THE

Section One Notes;
1.) Spelling mistakes that Zodiac has unintentionally or
intentionally made, are marked above by a dot placed
after the incorrect letter.
2.) The word "paradce" in this section is missing the
letter ‘i’ because Zodiac omitted that letter from this
specific instance of this word.
3.) Letter ‘L’ in top right corner appears to be unused.
———-

Thanks for pointing this out, I think I have figured out what is up with the ‘L’ you pointed out. See Here:
viewtopic.php?f=81&t=5088&p=83045#p83045

 
Posted : December 14, 2020 3:49 am
ophion1031
(@ophion1031)
Posts: 1798
Noble Member
 

So many people felt there was not a message, that it was a joke on us. I always believed the Zodiac who we know has a huge ego, would have had a message in that cipher, but that perhaps it was done in a mirror image or in another language? ( We missed the clue, which was on the envelope with that message being done on the diagonal!) I also felt that David was determined to solve it and would probably be the one to do that, I had no idea he had two others just as determined as he was. Congratulations to all involved!

I thought that the HER^ 9 at the top and the ^MDHN 9 ( "W" was used for an "A" in the Hardens solution, but upside down it is an M) at the bottom I thought was a clue to the word Hernandez which is 9 letters, the 9th letter of the alphabet being "I", or a double meaning "I Hernandez"? The letters on the bottom right looked like Zodiak to me? Could there be another message within this message?

I still think that the 340 does have at least one more message in it. Someone (I forget his name) came up with this after using Dave’s web toy on his website….

That can’t be a coincidence can it???

A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….

 
Posted : December 14, 2020 1:29 pm
jacob
(@jacob)
Posts: 1266
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I still think that the 340 does have at least one more message in it. Someone (I forget his name) came up with this after using Dave’s web toy on his website….

That can’t be a coincidence can it???

Would it be difficult to design a cipher with both a basic substitution (the "by" messages) and the more complex transposition solve?

(It wasn’t Dennis Rader by the way, he was abroad with the air force).

 
Posted : December 14, 2020 5:56 pm
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