Posted by: @marcelo-leandro

Just a look at previous things I have posted.:)
Without Jarvle’s AZD program and Dave’s site, I really wouldn’t have the patience to do this stuff.
The basic idea is the same, we put the ciphers symbols in columns, 408 and 340, keeping the dimensions, i.e.
408 – 17 columns , 24 lines
340 – 17 columns , 20 lines,
We put the 340 in an inverted manner, that is, from bottom to top (flip).

Note that the sequence of symbols in period reading 19 appear at the beginning of the 408, appear in the 340 (which was decoded in this way of reading).

 

I noticed that, in the z340 decoding, the “black circle” symbol was used as a “wild card” for both the letter K and the letter V, the words “WORV” (WORK) and VNOW (KNOW).

Reviewing old stuff , with some observations .
When we put the 408 and 340 cipher together , which logically has the size of 748 , as if a single cipher was , we split it into two blocks of 374 ,
we get these images. “

• “An 8 1/2 X 11 inch paper divided into 1/2″ squares yields 17X22 or 374 separate squares. Two pages together: 374 X 2= 748. The two ciphers together? 748 symbols.” (from entropy)”- http://zodiackillerciphers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Encyclopedia_of_observations

I noticed that the first two parts of the z340 (on the right), the first 18 lines, which were divided in two parts of 9 lines and read in period 19, decoded brilliantly by the team, are centered exactly with the cipher 408 in its first 22 lines.

Every day I am sure that the 340 cipher was not elaborated afterwards, but together, in relation to the message itself, of course, the TV program occurred afterwards, but, what I think, is that the way the second message would be encoded would be this (period 19 and two lines with mirror words), maybe, because of this, some errors in the 340 occurred, due to an emergency adaptation that Z had to do for some new words or message.

On two pages , the half of cipher 408 (line 12) coincides with the half of cipher 340 (line 10)

-That line 10 of cipher 340, is the beginning of the “second part” , in which was made the reading in period 19 of cipher 340, which had its decoding, basically in 3 parts , I mean, two parts of 9 lines in period 19 and 2 lines read , with 8 words , being 5 in “mirror”

Nothing relevant,
The “INTO” fragment that appears in z340, right in the center, after decoding, caught my attention.

When we arrange the first 9 rows , in columns , keeping the size of 17 , in flip , INTO appears in period 19 ( which is obvious ), interesting that it meets with I HOPE , in a triangular form . (in both arrangements)-what you would expect in this arrangement of course

Posted by: @marcelo-leandro

Reviewing old stuff , with some observations .
When we put the 408 and 340 cipher together , which logically has the size of 748 , as if a single cipher was , we split it into two blocks of 374 ,
we get these images. “

• “An 8 1/2 X 11 inch paper divided into 1/2″ squares yields 17X22 or 374 separate squares. Two pages together: 374 X 2= 748. The two ciphers together? 748 symbols.” (from entropy)”- http://zodiackillerciphers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Encyclopedia_of_observations

I noticed that the first two parts of the z340 (on the right), the first 18 lines, which were divided in two parts of 9 lines and read in period 19, decoded brilliantly by the team, are centered exactly with the cipher 408 in its first 22 lines.

Every day I am sure that the 340 cipher was not elaborated afterwards, but together, in relation to the message itself, of course, the TV program occurred afterwards, but, what I think, is that the way the second message would be encoded would be this (period 19 and two lines with mirror words), maybe, because of this, some errors in the 340 occurred, due to an emergency adaptation that Z had to do for some new words or message.

On two pages , the half of cipher 408 (line 12) coincides with the half of cipher 340 (line 10)

-That line 10 of cipher 340, is the beginning of the “second part” , in which was made the reading in period 19 of cipher 340, which had its decoding, basically in 3 parts , I mean, two parts of 9 lines in period 19 and 2 lines read , with 8 words , being 5 in “mirror”

Hello!

Watching the Z 408, in conjunction with the 340 , as I have already exposed .
When we take the fragment of the 408, that would correspond to the first 18 lines of the 340, as already exposed,
When we transpose this fragment in column, as I have always done, that is, keeping it in 17 columns, the word HOPE, appears in diagonal, in a jumbled way, in period 19.
I hope the images help you to understand me 🙂  .

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Hi, considering the previous post.
I have attached the image of the two ciphers together ,408 and 340.
Interesting that in the segments , which would be equivalent in both , side by side , when transposed the segment of the 408 in columns , we have in period 19, HOPE, and YOU of the plain text -Somewhat mirroring the initial Text of the 340.

Hello.
Observing the ciphers themselves (408) , the symbols , arranging the cited segment of 18 lines ( in which HOPE appears ) , when arranged in the same way , in columns , in the “Hope segment “, three pairs of symbols appear in period 19.

When we arrange the segment of 20 lines, it appears, with the symbols “BOY” (twice), which appears at the end of the non-transposed cipher of 340.

sharing.

I hadn’t noticed,
When we put the z408 in columns, the “central” part of 20 lines (the same size as the z340 untrasposed), the symbols of the last 2 “BOY” lines, are in mirrored positions.

Curiosity

The name “HOLT” appears in the plain text of the z408 mirror, in one segment when read in period 19 (the path used for decoding the z340), perhaps a reference to Tim Holt, which was linked in the wonderful topic. https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/10-27-70-halloween-card-sent-to-paul-avery/found-it-by-fire-by-gun-by-knife-by-rope/

Some time ago I posted something about the 408 cipher in columns in which FIRE, GUN appear diagonally, as well as the word EGYPT, in a way, appears in a similar reading to period 19.

@marcelo-leandro 

I do think it’s worth looking for more hidden messages but the problem is there are so many possibilities you can find just by chance 

This is literally the first word I saw just then looking at it. Lol. 

Posted by: @neonrust

@marcelo-leandro 

 

I do think it’s worth looking for more hidden messages but the problem is there are so many possibilities you can find just by chance 

This is literally the first word I saw just then looking at it. Lol. 

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lol ? ? ? , yes, I had seen it.
In fact, several things show up if you look.
In this case, I am using a path that has as reference something we know, for example, the diagonal reading at period 19 used in 340, to come up with “HOLT”.

For example, at the end of 340 , we have something like “Death by”. which could be referring to the wheel of fate.
HOLT appears above a segment , which is very similar to the decoding of 340 “paradice in mirror” and “will be”.
In a way , I imagine that the ciphers are interconnected .

I hadn’t noticed

The name Holt appears in period 19 in a symmetrical way.
The plain text of the 408, in mirror , HOLT is in the central 4 lines, between the ten lines above and the ten lines below. And centered within the four lines I mentioned.

It is curious that the z340 was decoded with these premises, in period 19 diagonally and with mirror words in its last two lines.

Looking at previous posts ,
I noticed that the name HOLT in the plain mirrored text, read diagonally in period 19, appears on the 4 central lines, as well as when we lay out the plain text in columns, the words FIRE and GUN appear, very much correlated with the already much discussed possible connection between RED mask magazine and the Halloween card.

The link to the full magazine is on this link:

https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=21570

Hello,
Maybe just a coincidence ,
Observing the cipher 408, when we arrange the 20 central lines in columns, keeping the same size, we get

DR KAYR

Two things
KAYR appeared in the theoretical  solution (Z13) of  @fayzr , already analyzed by Dave .

KAY DRIVE is an address in Vallejo , that I haven’t researched more deeply , since when does it exist among other things

I am sharing this, even though I know it is probably a coincidence, so that other eyes can observe things that escape me, if there are any.

link for adress : @38.0734737,-122.2352807,655m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x808573c643f7fb15:0xe078ab3681e8b0fe!8m2!3d38.0734695!4d-122.233092″ target=”_blank” rel=”noopener”>KAY DRIVE

Hi,
I hope everyone had a great Christmas and a happy new year!

I noticed that the phrase “PLEASE RUSH TO EDITOR is 18 letters long, with no spaces.
The phrase is curious, and this has already been observed by many.
In correspondence with the z408 it was written in the normal way, and in correspondence containing the z340 it is written diagonally.

I noticed that, (I have already done so with the sequence “z18” at the end of the 408), when we have the phrase in 18 lines (which is logical), with 17 columns, like the cyphers, the phrase can be read in normal mode and in period 19.
Sharing.