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traveller1st
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http://www.zodiackiller.com/Stickerz.html

I’m not finding any info about the eye being a sticker but there were stickers inside the envelope along with the card.

Thanks deb I had mentioned that before on the gender issues thread now I’m wondering if that’s what I was thinking of. I’m not sure though because I have found mention of the eye being a heart shape so maybe I’m confusing that with the stickers and saying love heart sticker. Unfortunately I can’t find any hi-res images of the card to be sure what’s going on with the right eye.

Here’s a link on ZKF. Scroll down to Solar Pon’s post, she mentions the love heart thing.

http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/forum/ … 0&start=30


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : October 27, 2013 8:49 am
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http://www.zodiackiller.com/Stickerz.html

I’m not finding any info about the eye being a sticker but there were stickers inside the envelope along with the card.

From what I recall, it is simply a drawn heart. I don’t remember if it was part of the card originally, but i don’t think so.

I do remember seeing a stamp that I believe was on the back…that was what read "thinking of you".


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : October 27, 2013 8:52 am
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So when it’s all said and done, it comes down to "tit oil." Imagine that.

Daniel, have you stopped taking your meds?

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Posted : November 6, 2013 7:20 pm
AK Wilks
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TILT to me means a pinball game. Or an earthquake. Or an axis. Or a level.

OIL means gas. Or middle east or Standard or Exxon or Rockefeller or dinosaurs.

Or salad or vinegar or dressing or water.

Its interesting work and ideas but any given word can have multiple meanings and associations.

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Posted : November 7, 2013 1:50 am
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So, using your method, everything connects to everything. Which means nothing, because you can use it to connect anything together.

It’s a coincidence-generating fiction you have invented, and unfortunately, it wastes everyone’s time.

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : November 8, 2013 3:36 pm
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No, that’s not what I MEAN and I didn’t say “Everything”. I focused on very relevant and corroborating evidence.

And you continue to ignore all the other possible coincidences that can be generated by your approach.

You have a giant pile of coincidences to select from, and you are picking your favorites, and ignoring the ones that are not interesting to you.

Sorry, but that makes your method useless.

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : November 8, 2013 8:55 pm
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Dan, your creativity never ceases to amaze but in reading through several pages, I’m mystified at what the overriding message of your cipher solution work is supposed to be. You’ve tied in four possible Zodiac suspects (Ross Sullivan, Penn, Gaikowski and Kaczynski) along with Jack the Ripper, the Masons and Satanism. Is there an overriding message that this cipher is attempting to convey or is this still a work in progress?

 
Posted : December 27, 2013 9:20 pm
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Take your time Daniel. It can be an ally.


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : December 28, 2013 2:40 am
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Thanks for the explanation, Daniel. Best of luck…

 
Posted : December 28, 2013 6:31 am
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What more can I say. If a picture or an autograph by H.S.T. could speak a thousand words or in Hunter’s case 999 words.

ACE = 135 = 9

ACE HUNTER

dg9

Interesting. The handwriting that is. The rest? I have no idea lol.


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : January 1, 2014 10:21 pm
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If Hunter was the Zodiac then Arthur Canon Doyle was Jack the Ripper.

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Posted : January 2, 2014 2:39 am
AK Wilks
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Larry Flynt was from Kentucky. Is he the Zodiac?

Ted was not friends with Hunter and they did not team up with Gaikowski imo. Maybe I am wrong but show me the evidence. Not extreme anagrams but actual evidence.

I am not going to post on this thread because you respond to criticism personally. You seem to take it too hard. I like you I just don’t agree with your theories. Show me evidence Hunter was Zodiac or that Ted would work with any one let alone Gaikowski. These people have living family and friends, so when there is not a single shred of reliable real evidence showing someone could be Zodiac, I don’t agree with accusing someone of being Z on the basis of no evidence.

Penn and Hunter and Gaikowski were not Z imo and based on evidence they were out of state at key points.

Imo your work on jtr and 369 influences was very interesting but too much extreme anagrams and a large team zodiac concept and not enough evidence and you lost me. Thats ok. You don’t need me. I can only say be more tough on your theories. Accept criticism and use it. Find your weak points and eliminate them.

DANIEL G: "THERE IS NO REASON WHY TED WOULD DISLIKE OR EVEN KNOW, WHO PAUL STINE WAS."

Ted did not need to know people to hate them.

"the technological society maybe in some sense inevitable, but it is so only because of the way people behave. Consequently I hate people. Almost anyone who hold steady employment is contributing his part in maintaining the technological society.I emphasize that my motivation is personal revenge. I don’t pretend to any kind of philosophical or moralistic justification."

Ted Kaczynski journal entry 1977.

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Posted : January 5, 2014 10:17 pm
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Dan, forgive me but where does the "Poets pen…" solution come from? Is this your own solution using the ZKDekrypto?

 
Posted : January 19, 2014 12:57 am
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POSTS BY DANIEL GILLOTTI:

AK Wilks, Subject: Re: Z340 and "The Sacred Nine" Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:56 pm

I am not really following or understanding how you link the Golden Dawn, JTR and Zodiac. I don’t think it very likely the Golden Dawn had any major connection with the Zodiac case IMO. But I know you are still putting this together. I will wait to see all of your evidence before coming to any conclusions. You are finding some interesting things and I think you have some good ideas!

Have you ever looked at the Besty Aardsma case? Morf and I have looked at a possible Zodiac connection to that case, as have others. She was killed in a part of the Penn State library called "THE STACKS." The poem you posted is about killing a girl in "THE BACKS".

At Penn State a statement was found etched in wood that said "HERE SAT DEATH IN THE GUISE OF A MAN RSK". Nobody knows what the "RSK" means.

Also, the poem uses the term "rather shabby".

Zodiac: "was a negro about 40 -45 rather shabbly dressed." Zodiac Letter of August 4, 1969, to SF Examiner.

AK:

You asked me once if RSK meant anything to me. Almost 2 years later RYSK and RISK means everything to me. As you know from my latest posts on the “Sacred Nine”

Last night I was reading back on my posts and discovered this by you:

HERE SAT DEATH IN THE GUISE OF A MAN RSK

Z340 cipher lower left corner I R+I

Add I and I…here: MAN (I) R(I)SK…..I R + I = I RISK

HERE SAT DEATH IN THE GUISE OF A MAN I RISK

Sub/atbash the above with any of these KEYS in any order:

EPO, POE, OPE

Here is what I got with POE as key:

JC RC SD TG CD( TJK )PT JC IU KS CB HD OD PK RK SM

TJK = Theodore John Kaczynski

I think there is something more to this…and I want to get others involved. This is hot off the press from late last night and I haven’t taken this any further yet.

Dg9

AK:

You asked me once if RSK meant anything to me. Almost 2 years later RYSK and RISK means everything to me. As you know from my latest posts on the “Sacred Nine”

Last night I was reading back on my posts and discovered this by you:

HERE SAT DEATH IN THE GUISE OF A MAN RSK

Z340 cipher lower left corner I R+I

Add I and I…here: MAN (I) R(I)SK…..I R + I = I RISK

HERE SAT DEATH IN THE GUISE OF A MAN I RISK

Sub/atbash the above with any of these KEYS in any order:

EPO, POE, OPE

Here is what I got with POE as key:

JC RC SD TG CD( TJK )PT JC IU KS CB HD OD PK RK SM

TJK = Theodore John Kaczynski

I think there is something more to this…and I want to get others involved. This is hot off the press from late last night and I haven’t taken this any further yet.

Dg9

JC RC SD TG CD( TJK )P(T) (J)C IU (K)S CB HD OD PK RK SM

Letters found after TJK and between another TJK

P C I U S

Phonetically:

PS… I… C… U… CB

P.S. I SEE YOU C/B….HDOD…PKRK SM

P.S. I SEE YOU C/ B…??? HOOD PARKK MS.

Some ideas for now…

What a Dolt I am….THIS IS IT…

P.S. I SEE YOU CECEILA/BRYAN, HOOD PARK MS…MISS!!!

Dg9

I really can’t express how important this is:

The sub/atbash key to decrypt the solution below is “POE” the murder took place at “PENN” State: “POE PENN”…my Z340 solution starts: ‘POETS PEN’…!!! The threatening line has “RSK”…my “POETS PEN” solution has what I believe 5 RYSK or RISK through out the solution. Aardsma was killed in the “STACKS”…JK Stephens’s poem talks about a woman he would not mind if she were killed or ploughed. The title of the poem” in the “BACKS” the poem also has 9 I’s in it.

HERE SAT DEATH IN THE GUISE OF A MAN RSK

Z340 cipher lower left corner I R+I

Add I and I…here: MAN (I) R(I)SK…..I R + I = I RISK

HERE SAT DEATH IN THE GUISE OF A MAN I RISK

Sub/atbash decrypt the above with: POE

Plain text:

JC RC SD TG CD( TJK ) P (T) (J) C I U (K) S C/B HDOD PKRK SM

Letters found after TJK and between another TJK

P C I U S

Phonetically: PS… I… C… U… CB

PS = PENN STATE ?… SECRET PAL?
I = I
C = SEE
U = YOU
C = CECEILA
B = BRYAN

P.S. I SEE YOU CECEILA/BRYAN, HOOD PARK MS…MISS!!!

(P)ENN (S)TATE I SEE YOU, CECEILA/BRYAN HOOD PARK MS…MISS!!!

Can someone do a Google Earth map and draw a line from the Penn library to Berryessa???

Dg9

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Posted : January 20, 2014 8:53 pm
AK Wilks
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Private pm’s are meant to stay private.

I have told you several times that In My Opinion your code work is wrong. You get upset when I don’t post responses to your work, then when I post criticism of your WORK you take it personal. I offered to not respond anymore and you said to continue to respond. You posted off topic on a thread. Then you personally insult me here.

You refuse to take criticism of your work. If you really think Ted and Gaikowski and Penn and Hunter Thompson were the Zodiac, wow, good luck with that. How about some evidence? Real evidence? Not extreme widely dispersed anagrams.

I have told you that Ted did not know Gaikowski, and would not have teamed up with him. If anything, he would have thought of him as an "enemy", a drug taking liberal socialist. Ted hated hippies, he wore a suit and tie on campus and tried to join the Young Republicans. He was an individualist anarchist right winger, he hated liberals and socialists and hippies.

You refuse to admit that your anagram solutions are just one of thousands that can be derived from the same set of letters.

If you think you have the correct solution, present it to the police, FBI and academia. You simply will not even consider the constructive criticisms I have offered, or that glurk and doranchak have offered.

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Posted : January 20, 2014 10:43 pm
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