Can’t lie, does seems a little suspicious.

can you elaborate?

You have to remember, Avery was a war correspondent in Vietnam. He wasn’t the type to scare easily.

I’m sorry I’m only speculating here but I take it to mean that Paul Avery had his own button for Z And it was gonna be his license plate that says “Zodiac “ and Paul was going to pin it on anyone that tried to mess with him .

I think the weird thing is the paper that it was in . And Maybe LE had Surveillance to see if anyone messed with Avery‘s car ? Was there any suspects from Colorado ?

I think the weird thing is the paper that it was in . And Maybe LE had Surveillance to see if anyone messed with Avery‘s car ? Was there any suspects from Colorado ?

My guy was never a suspect but his family was from a place not too far from Fred Harmon’s ranch in Colorado

Caenfetti most likely was written by Herb Caen…no idea why it appeared in the Colorado Eagle.

The article is from December 19, 1970 [corrected], mentioning text from the Halloween card (‘you are doomed’), which was sent to Paul Avery. [corrected]. The date of the post stamp (on the replica of the Halloween Card’s envelope) may or may not be correct [corrected].

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If the 13-Hole-Card is a fake, similar period would be since Z’s definite Button-II letter from July 26, 1970, in which he had also claimed 13 victims.

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If the 13-hole-card was sent from a copycat, the handwritten crackproof letter of March 13, 1971, as well as the second (!) Herb Caen letter from October, 28, 1987 (‘Tell Herb Caen I am still there‘…equal to first Herb Caen letter), might be fake, too, because of the use of the word ‘crackproof’, which was initially used on the the 13-hole-card. Not to forget: The 13-hole-card was NOT handwritten, even the Z symbol was made from newspaper cut-outs. Same then with the Edward C. Adams postcard. The letter of March 13, 1971, however, was handwritten, authentic, conversely indicating that at least the letter from March 13, 1971 is NOT fake.

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The problem with ruling out the 13-hole card is that the March 13, 1971, consists of authentic Z handwriting and had also used the term ‘crack proof’.

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It is still possible that Z used the term ‘crack proof’ from reading about the fake postcards, then used it authentically in his Button II letter about one year later (collected newspaper articles?).

QT

Can someone say this in plain english?

What is being suggested by the initial post / newspaper clipping?

What exactly are you trying to say is suspicious about this?

This is a well documented factoid in the case – I don’t get what’s at issue here.

qt – how do you know the article was from october? the jpg image has "dec101970" in the title.

oh, my mistake..the article is indeed from December – excuse me. Don’t know how this had happened.

@Fisherman: Based on the wrongly assumed date of the article, either Donna Lass was not a Z victim or the 13-hole card etc. would have been fake, as the time window would allow one 14th victim only.

BUT: According to Z’s body count, the Button II letter, 26th of July, 1970, tells us 13. Handwriting is authentic, so this one could be a true Z communication. Then Donna Lass disappearing on 6th of September, 1970. Finally the 13-hole card, on October 5th, 1970, still (!) counts 13 victims.

A copycat would not yet have known about Donna Lass as a 14th victim, thus had assumed there were only 13..

Therefore:

– Either Z lied regarding his bodycount, did not mention Donna Lass
– Or the 13-hole card is fake
– Or Z did not kill Donna Lass

Why? Because Donna Lass disappeared inbetween those two communictions, both mentioning 13 victims. Or he kept her alive until October 5th, 1970, which is a bit unlikely.

So or so, according to the letters/cards sent, Donna Lass is no Z victim OR at least the 13-hole card as well as the Edward card are FAKE.

Attention: So would then be the Pines card (‘peek through the pines’) be a FAKE. Why? First of all, it has the same appearance (newspaper cut-outs) like the 13-hole/Edwards-card. Secondly, the Z symbol is written in a different way, not like Z did it but somebody could have had read it in the paper. Third, the victim count, with 12, is simply completely wrong – even for an author of the 13-hole-card. Instead, later, the Monticello card, claiming 21 victims, which also can be put to the fake ones (both cards use the term ‘sought/shought victims 12/21’).

According to the body count, some ‘peeking through the pines’ for Donna Lass is simply impossible: Not only is the appearance of the card completely NOT Z related but would also Donna Lass, as a victim, have raised the body count (which at that time was already at 17 (!), was even before at 13 already..).

To me, one thing is pretty sure: Donna Lass and the cut-out cards do not fit together. There most likely was a copycat sending fake postcards with wrong bodycounts. In that case, Z could still have been the killer of Donna Lass. As this person was not able to write like Z, he/she cut out all of the text from newspapers, even draw the Z symbol completely wrong. Sierra club? Dead end. In that case, Z also never claimed to be crack proof.

Of course, there still is the possibility that Z mixed up the victim counts and had sent all of the postcards by himself. Then, his bodycounts are incorrect.

One question occurs: Is there any connection at all between (one of) those cards and authentic, handwritten Z letters, implying that the cards are actually Z communication?

QT