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doranchak
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Ricardo just posted this on mk-zodiac.com:

http://www.mk-zodiac.com/ZodiacGearyStreet.html

It’s describes a fascinating connection between Geary Street, the Zodiac watch, Darlene Ferrin, and Paul Stine.

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : August 13, 2015 5:26 pm
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Here’s the same connection already discussed on this forum:

viewtopic.php?p=39077#p39077

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : August 13, 2015 5:34 pm
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Another Geary Street connection is the Curran Theater, same block as Mason and Geary (where Z got into the cab).

That theater played the Mikado in January 1969:

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : August 13, 2015 6:09 pm
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San Mateo Times, 10 Jan 1969, Fri, Page 13

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : August 13, 2015 11:29 pm
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The Mikado also played at the Curran Theater Oct 17 through 19, 1969, which is about a week after Paul Stine was killed after picking up Z on that same corner.

Surely this has been posted before. I feel like I’m just going over the same old ground.


The Times (San Mateo, California) · Fri, Oct 17, 1969 · Page 12

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : August 13, 2015 11:50 pm
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I know they checked out a lot of cast Members of these shows to see if any could be Z.

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : August 14, 2015 8:10 pm
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Good stuff from Ricardo as usual.

I wonder if Z could have worked at one of those stores, or in between those stores on that block.

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : August 14, 2015 8:13 pm
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IMO I don’t think he necessarily lived on Geary St, but I can believe he frequented it often. I think the watch connection is interesting bc I’ve always believed his leaving a watch at the CJBs crime scene was a way of him identifying himself as the person who ends their victim’s "time" being alive. He could have saw the ad for the zodiac watch and decided using the name zodiac might "clew" LE into a reference to watches and remind them of CJB… Or simply chose the name Zodiac in a sick secret personal homage to his first murder and the watch he left (whether intentionally left or not).

I kind of feel like he wouldn’t be picked up near where he lived. I would think Geary St was an area he frequented that he needed to use transit to get to/from. So maybe he or someone he knew lived around the area the cab headed toward.

I do know that Geary st was home to many Chinese, Irish, and Russian immigrants in that Richmond corridor. There were many residential communities near there. It seems like much entertainment was centered around the corridor … Virtually anyone could find themselves there.

The Mikado showings are interesting Doranchak. :)

 
Posted : August 14, 2015 11:09 pm
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I know they checked out a lot of cast Members of these shows to see if any could be Z.

Good to know! :) if only they could have checked who all attended the show as audience. Bet that was impossible back then.

 
Posted : August 14, 2015 11:10 pm
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Another Geary Street connection is the Curran Theater, same block as Mason and Geary (where Z got into the cab).

That theater played the Mikado in January 1969:

This is excellent work, so I am going to pick it up:

The Mikado, in a theatre next Geary/Mason, definitely is interesting for ‘Paul Z’ to be a good working place.

Anybody knows if Curran and ACT, then Geary theatre, belonged together?

QT

*ZODIACHRONOLOGY*

 
Posted : August 28, 2019 9:12 pm
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The Mikado also played at the Curran Theater Oct 17 through 19, 1969, which is about a week after Paul Stine was killed after picking up Z on that same corner.

Surely this has been posted before. I feel like I’m just going over the same old ground.


The Times (San Mateo, California) · Fri, Oct 17, 1969 · Page 12

Who played KoKo?

 
Posted : August 28, 2019 9:44 pm
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Maybe this is a dumb question with a clear answer but:

What is the primary source for the now accepted fact that Z was picked up at Mason and Geary?

Did Stine call it in to a dispatcher?

Was there a written ticket in the cab?

How do we know he actively went to that corner for a pickup vs let’s say that’s where his last drop off was?

Also I don’t think I’ve ever seen first hand primary evidence for Z requesting a specific drop-off. (The whole "for some reason they went a block further" always begs the question "how did we know where they were going / what was the destination?" As far as I’ve read, there is no physical paper slip and no report to dispatch… For all we know Z could have told him to go to an address even further away and shot him 10 blocks before that destination.

If I am wrong, I would love to know – because I want the primary source so it can be established.

p.s., I was in SF last fall and went to many of the locations. It struck me that there’s an all night diner at the corner of Geary and Mason that opened in 1969.

 
Posted : August 29, 2019 7:59 pm
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Fisherman’sFriend, forum search is also your friend.
viewtopic.php?f=94&t=1193#p11686
S.F. Chronicle article , Fri, Oct 17, 1969 by Keith Power.

Maybe also read this thread;
viewtopic.php?f=30&t=702&hilit=geary&start=30#p21335
Unfortunately, the rather preposterous suggestion is made in there that a reporter stole
Paul Stine’s cab waybill (record of past and current fare journeys) from the cab. A simpler
explanation is that a newspaper reporter made calls and talked to people at S.F.P.D. or
Yellow Cab company, and they told a reporter what the last journey on that waybill was,
subsequently Keith Power bylined that article.
We’ve become recently aware that there’s a probability that Leroy Sweet, Assistant traffic
manager of Yellow Cab, was actually on site that night after the murder,
viewtopic.php?f=45&t=4419&p=74054#p74054
so detectives may have, at that time or in later days, shown and discussed the waybill with
Leroy Sweet or other people at the Yellow Cab company – so possibly that information may
have ended up being later leaked to a reporter at the S.F. Chronicle by someone from
S.F.P.D. or the Yellow Cab company.

 
Posted : August 30, 2019 6:05 am
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The Mikado also played at the Curran Theater Oct 17 through 19, 1969, which is about a week after Paul Stine was killed after picking up Z on that same corner.

Surely this has been posted before. I feel like I’m just going over the same old ground.


The Times (San Mateo, California) · Fri, Oct 17, 1969 · Page 12

Who played KoKo?

That’s Kabuki theater, not the Mikado.

 
Posted : August 30, 2019 7:21 am
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Not sure where to post this but I have a question. Does anyone know if Paul Stine lived at the Fell Street address in ‘66?
He lived there in ‘69 at the time of his death, that I do know.

 
Posted : August 31, 2019 8:26 am
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