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doranchak
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Mysteries at the Museum host Don Wildman investigating clues with my "Cipher Explorer" tool.

http://zodiackillerciphers.com/cipher-explorer/

In the late 60s and early 70s, the San Francisco Bay area was terrorized by a killer who called himself the Zodiac. Through letters mailed to the press, the Zodiac claimed to have murdered up to 37 people. He toyed with police sending them cryptic codes that allegedly contained his identity. But he was never caught, much less identified. So, what happened to the Zodiac?

Don Wildman sets out to discover the true-identity of the Zodiac — one of America’s most notorious serial killers. He visits the actual crimes scenes and learns about the victims. Don works with an expert cryptographer to unravel the famous Z340 cipher – a mysterious code, written by the Zodiac, that to this day has not been solved. He speaks with an amateur detective who’s spent the last ten years looking for the killer. And finally, he learns a new theory on who may be responsible for these brutal crimes.

The show airs tomorrow night at 9PM Eastern / 8PM Central on the Travel Channel.

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : October 2, 2018 11:24 pm
Zamantha
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That’s very cool for you, DoranChak! I’ll be sure to watch!
Thanks,

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Posted : October 3, 2018 3:43 am
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Awesome ! I’ll be watching !

 
Posted : October 3, 2018 4:48 am
murray
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I will definitely check it out!

 
Posted : October 3, 2018 6:21 am
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Where can I watch it from France? Is there a website where the video will be available?

 
Posted : October 3, 2018 11:44 am
doranchak
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I asked a producer if there is any option to watch from overseas. Will let you know if I hear anything back.

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : October 3, 2018 4:30 pm
doranchak
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The iTunes thumbnail for the show is Zodiac-themed:

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : October 3, 2018 4:31 pm
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I asked a producer if there is any option to watch from overseas. Will let you know if I hear anything back.

Actually I can watch Travel Channel in France That’s just 1€49/month.

 
Posted : October 3, 2018 7:30 pm
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Good job Dave and well done!

 
Posted : October 4, 2018 6:28 am
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Good job Dave and well done!

Yes, very good.

 
Posted : October 4, 2018 7:15 am
murray
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Well done! I liked the straight-forward nature of this show. All stuff we know — but good to hear some variety of perspectives, and not over-dramatized. And the cyphers, a balanced and informative review of their relavence.

 
Posted : October 4, 2018 9:05 am
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Quote: Mysteries at the Museum "The actual Zodiac evidence was collected in a state laboratory in May 2018, who then sent it to a genealogical laboratory in Florida (GEDmatch). Analysts then looked for similarities between the Zodiac profile and family members who have already submitted DNA to a public database. If they find a match, genealogists will then create a family tree that could eventually lead them to the Zodiac Killer."

This statement gives the impression a viable DNA profile of Zodiac has been achieved for submission to GEDmatch. If this were true (which cannot be corroborated by a second source), then this would indicate that somebody did lick the envelope flaps or/and stamps, and the DNA had not deteriorated enough as to become unviable after 49 years. It may also indicate that only one male DNA fingerprint was recovered from the stamps or seals, rather than a mixed sample.

If this forum authorizes the link to the episode I will attach it.

 
Posted : October 5, 2018 1:13 pm
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Quote: Mysteries at the Museum "The actual Zodiac evidence was collected in a state laboratory in May 2018, who then sent it to a genealogical laboratory in Florida (GEDmatch). Analysts then looked for similarities between the Zodiac profile and family members who have already submitted DNA to a public database. If they find a match, genealogists will then create a family tree that could eventually lead them to the Zodiac Killer."

This statement gives the impression a viable DNA profile of Zodiac has been achieved for submission to GEDmatch. If this were true (which cannot be corroborated by a second source), then this would indicate that somebody did lick the envelope flaps or/and stamps, and the DNA had not deteriorated enough as to become unviable after 49 years. It may also indicate that only one male DNA fingerprint was recovered from the stamps or seals, rather than a mixed sample.

If this forum authorizes the link to the episode I will attach it.

would that not be something, mind spin.. if after all these years a name pops out. Unfortunately we the general public will never be given the "name" unless its a link to a known dead suspect or they have made an arrest.

 
Posted : October 5, 2018 2:37 pm
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Hi,

I don’t think that IF DNA has been recovered it necessarily means that the stamps were licked. SFPD recovered DNA in the 1990s using primitive technology from the two letters they consider forgeries that HAD been licked. They are now using such sensitive techniques that if they recovered DNA it is probably because the sender did not wear gloves while handling the dampened stamps and they left a few cells from their fingers on the letters. The important thing here is going to be whether or not they have recovered the SAME DNA from across at least two letters, so we know it is not just a one-off possible contaminant, etc., again (i.e., these new techniques are SO sensitive that contamination is a huge issue).

Mike.

Mike Rodelli

Author, The Hunt for Zodiac; 3.9 stars on Amazon and
In The Shadow of Mt. Diablo: The Shocking True Identity of the Zodiac Killer, a second edition in print format. 4.3 Amazon stars and great Editorial reviews. Twitter:@mikerodelli

 
Posted : October 5, 2018 3:37 pm
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If they did recover a viable DNA profile from just one letter Mike (July 31st Chronicle letter for example), and it was sourced from underneath the stamp or envelope seal, then submitted for a genealogical match. it could certainly identify a list of candidates. "California law enforcement investigating the Golden State Killer case uploaded the DNA profile of the suspected serial rapist/killer from an intact rape kit in Ventura County to GEDmatch. It identified 10 to 20 distant relatives of the Golden State Killer, and a team of five investigators working with genealogist Barbara Rae-Vente used this to construct a large family tree, which led them to identify retired police officer Joseph James DeAngelo."

If one of these was a relative of a known suspect or person of interest in the Zodiac case, or a candidate that lived in the Bay Area with distinguishing characteristics of the killer we’ve become accustomed to, then a sample from one letter alone would be a step in the right direction.

 
Posted : October 5, 2018 3:58 pm
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