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Watch them all and wow his co-author was pissed at the end of the last one and she was kinda funny at the end what she said she was going to do with the book. FX made him look bad and even more so then the cop guy that thought Edward Wayne Edwards was involved in every famous big crime in the US.

 
Posted : March 10, 2020 2:56 am
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Watch them all and wow his co-author was pissed at the end of the last one and she was kinda funny at the end what she said she was going to do with the book. FX made him look bad and even more so then the cop guy that thought Edward Wayne Edwards was involved in every famous big crime in the US.

According to John Cameron, Ed Edwards was Zodiac, the Black Dahlia, the JonBenet kidnapper, and quite possibly Jack the Ripper and the JFK assassin.

 
Posted : March 10, 2020 3:38 am
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Watch them all and wow his co-author was pissed at the end of the last one and she was kinda funny at the end what she said she was going to do with the book. FX made him look bad and even more so then the cop guy that thought Edward Wayne Edwards was involved in every famous big crime in the US.

According to John Cameron, Ed Edwards was Zodiac, the Black Dahlia, the JonBenet kidnapper, and quite possibly Jack the Ripper and the JFK assassin.

Haha and you are right Jacob, Cameron look worse but Gary got his —- handed to him in the last EP. Ps. most of the episodes was very boring.

 
Posted : March 10, 2020 6:49 am
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Oh Dave you was great as always!

 
Posted : March 10, 2020 6:57 am
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I didn’t realize FX did a documentary on Cameron and Edwards. What was it called? Any chance it’s on Hulu or Netflix?


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : March 10, 2020 7:54 am
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I didn’t realize FX did a documentary on Cameron and Edwards. What was it called? Any chance it’s on Hulu or Netflix?

Tahoe my bad was on the Paramount Network about Edwards but on the same lines. Was called It was Him. Check a few topics down and you will see I posted on it.

 
Posted : March 10, 2020 8:31 am
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My guess it would be on HULU and not Netflix, It’s horrible anyways! That said think me and you try to checkout anything possible Zodiac related!

 
Posted : March 10, 2020 11:24 am
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Interesting background info in this Vulture review:

While the story was turning out exponentially more complicated and compelling than the producers imagined, debunking every one of Stewart’s theories threatened to destroy their relationship with him and possibly derail the show. They decided to wait to present Stewart their findings until close to the end of the yearlong production.

“The hardest part for me was knowing there was enough evidence to say Gary is not correct, but we couldn’t necessarily tell him what we found out,” Davidson said. “There was a few weeks there that I just couldn’t wait to be able to interview him because you don’t really like sitting on information that will have an impact on someone else’s life.”

As the discrepancies mounted, the producers forged ahead because, they decided, what mattered was that Stewart believed his father was the Zodiac Killer. “We struggled with having information that we couldn’t share with Gary,” said Dinerstein, founder of Campfire, the production company behind the series. “I felt guilty about that, but we knew it would affect him in a specific way and affect his interview. We had to be strategic with how we disseminated information, which was hard because I consider Gary a friend.”

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : March 10, 2020 11:36 pm
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When the time finally came to confront Stewart with their new evidence, Davidson said he became angry but stuck to his theory. “No matter what we threw at him, he’d say, ‘So we got the fingerprints wrong, we got the handwriting wrong, that doesn’t mean I’m wrong,’” he recalled. “I can only speculate that this has become such a part of his identity that it’s a hard pill to swallow.”

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : March 10, 2020 11:38 pm
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I truly believe that Stewart believes that his father is the Zodiac.

I think he believes it so strongly that, as the show alluded, it has become his identity. I think that even after being thoroughly and publicly debunked he STILL believes his father was the Zodiac because it’s part of his identity as a person. That’s why he went to such lengths (including, perhaps twisting the facts) to make the book seem real. I won’t comment on Stewart’s character, but despite his unsavory behavior surrounding this book, I almost felt sorry for him. His whole world fell apart and he was left grasping at any last shreds of dignity. He’s obviously an emotionally damaged guy already, and this humiliation only added to that damage. He must be beside himself with furious rage.

Susan Mustafa’s greatest sins were trusting Steward and not doing her own due diligence. Stewart coldly manipulated her, the facts, and his own mother to push a false narrative just so he could put a salve on his daddy issues.

The show itself, while not a particularly informative one from the standpoint of the case, did a marvelous job of setting the stage for the climax which was the fourth episode.

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : March 11, 2020 1:04 am
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The Question Is….

Why does the Publisher "Harpers Collins" still publish the book as is? With no revisions to represent the truth.

Why is the book still being sold when there are so many well documented misleading or fraudulent statements in it.

Should the book be reclassified as "Fiction"?

Even the co-writer, Susan Mustafa wants to burn the book.

Meanwhile at the ranch……Gary Stewart is still trying to make a buck off his book by saying all the concrete evidence is in the book….facebook post below…..

"Did the documentary leave you skeptical? Read "The Most Dangerous Animal of All" to learn more about all the concrete evidence Gary L. Stewart collected that didn’t make the final film cut."

Reality sets in…….4 of the last 5 reviews at Amazon.com, of Gary’s book since the FX series aired are 1 star.

 
Posted : March 11, 2020 5:33 am
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Book is pretty much done to those that watch the Doc. Might sale a few copies here and there to ones that don’t know. As for Gary and we know from the EP’s he checks these sites… I wish him nothing but the best and we are all human and all make mistakes. Gary I wish you a great life and hope you achieve everything you go after in it!

 
Posted : March 11, 2020 7:10 am
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My guess it would be on HULU and not Netflix, It’s horrible anyways! That said think me and you try to checkout anything possible Zodiac related!

As long as it doesn’t involve Edwards. ;) :lol:

Thanks for the heads-up.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : March 15, 2020 7:49 am
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Hi,

"Susan Mustafa’s greatest sins were trusting Steward and not doing her own due diligence. Stewart coldly manipulated her, the facts, and his own mother to push a false narrative just so he could put a salve on his daddy issues."

Same for the handwriting guy. He didn’t even do the basics of his own profession in terms of "due diligence," regardless of what he said. How could he not get the SSA application, let alone Fliger’s handwriting? He was shamelessly saving face and I sent him a pointed email about what he did and how he essentially wrote me out of the Fliger story. I’m sure business will drop when word gets around about his meager skills. He got what for by that other documents examiner.

Mike

Mike Rodelli

Author, The Hunt for Zodiac; 3.9 stars on Amazon and
In The Shadow of Mt. Diablo: The Shocking True Identity of the Zodiac Killer, a second edition in print format. 4.3 Amazon stars and great Editorial reviews. Twitter:@mikerodelli

 
Posted : March 15, 2020 8:38 pm
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Hi,

"Susan Mustafa’s greatest sins were trusting Steward and not doing her own due diligence. Stewart coldly manipulated her, the facts, and his own mother to push a false narrative just so he could put a salve on his daddy issues."

Same for the handwriting guy. He didn’t even do the basics of his own profession in terms of "due diligence," regardless of what he said. How could he not get the SSA application, let alone Fliger’s handwriting? He was shamelessly saving face and I sent him a pointed email about what he did and how he essentially wrote me out of the Fliger story. I’m sure business will drop when word gets around about his meager skills. He got what for by that other documents examiner.

Mike

Speaking of Van Best’s SSN… Has anyone on here tried to obtain a copy just for shits and giggles?

A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….

 
Posted : March 16, 2020 2:19 pm
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