As I said before, some similarity, but some differences too.

One big hole in Horan’s theory, that he refuses to address…. the crosshair symbol on the hooded killer’s outfit. Let’s say for a second that Snook was involved in the writing of the letters, how could he know that somebody with a zodiac crosshair logo on his chest would attack at Berryessa? Even IF Z didnt mention to Hartnell that he was Zodiac, he clearly wore the crosshair logo hood inferring it. This would imply somehow that Snook would be a co-conspirator with murder, it’s rediculous. Also, I’m not even going to entertain Horan’s stupid theory,but how does Horan think that Snook got his hands on Stine’s shirt in order to mail it to to the SF chronicle? Stine was murdered on 10/11 and Z mailed his shirt piece on 10/13-if Horan thinks that Snook would have had access to the SFPD shirt evidence with the short time it took Z to mail it into the Chronicle,(less than 48 hrs),he’s high on something,there’s no way that Snook had access to any shirt evidence within 48 hrs(if ever),hell, the various agencies didnt even share evidence,and never communicated well,yet is it his conclusion that Snook somehow was privy to the shirt piece and obtained it in time to mail a letter including it?

M., since Hal Snook ran the lab at Napa and was very well known to the guys at SFCO, I think Mr Horan believes he just walked right in there and took some of the shirt. The symbol on the guy’s "uniform" at Berryessa, though, that’s a real puzzler.

My Apologies, Horan doesn’t think Snook was the Zodiac, he thinks Snook pretended to be the Zodiac Killer by writing letters to the Newspapers.
Why would Snook do such a thing? Why would Snook want to claim he murdered people and risk the death penalty? Why would ANYONE want to
claim they murdered innocent people, right down to the type of Ammo they used, if they didn’t kill anyone? Futhermore, the more people one
must involve in a conspiracy, the less likely it is a conspiracy. There is virtually no motive for law enforcement to implicate themselves in these
crimes. And the Newspapers would need the co-operation of law enforcement to generate a hoax. The SF Chronicle had a fairly decent reputation
as a newspaper the enire time I was growing up in California and my college educated parents read it. Once again, the Newspapers would be
claiming they murdered people for circulation and subcriptions? Now that would really be a big story. Meanwhile several innocent young people
are dead. LUDICROUS. Zodiac "speaks" to us in his letters. They are threatening and desperate and very deep. Hoaxers do not have the ability
to communicate in this manner. So far Zodiac’s crimes are perfect, and a kalidiscope of suspicions abounds. Mr. Horan can verbally and sexually
abuse folks all he likes, it will not prove his claims.

M., since Hal Snook ran the lab at Napa and was very well known to the guys at SFCO, I think Mr Horan believes he just walked right in there and took some of the shirt. The symbol on the guy’s "uniform" at Berryessa, though, that’s a real puzzler.

The symbol on the outfit at LB was no secret. That is all Zodiac had signed his letters with up until the ONE letter before LB where he used the name Zodiac.

But for Hal or anyone who was not the actual killer, to go to SF and steal a piece of shirt in order to fake letters is just too far-fetched. imo

We KNOW people DID write fake letters and made claims they were the killer. Crazies out there for sure. Why they do it? Nut-jobs.

M., since Hal Snook ran the lab at Napa and was very well known to the guys at SFCO, I think Mr Horan believes he just walked right in there and took some of the shirt. The symbol on the guy’s "uniform" at Berryessa, though, that’s a real puzzler.

Ask him to show proof of this. It’s a wild and baseless theory, and is laughable. There’s simply no way that he would have got his hand on a Stine shirt piece that quickly (if ever). Horan’s theory sounds great to people that do not know anything about the case, but to people with common sense that have researched the case, his theory & book are a joke!

It’s like simple math:

1-Zodiac wrote some letters and used the crosshair symbol

2- Zodiac attacked at Berryessa while wearing a crosshair hood

3- At Berryessa, somebody wrote on the car door,that writing is matched to the same person that wrote the previous z letters

4- Stine is murdered and a piece of his shirt is removed

5- Before it is logically and remotely possible that Snook could have gotten his hands on that shirt piece, it’s mailed to the SF Chron along with another letter. That letter writing also matches the previous Zodiac letter writing.

End of story! His entire ‘theory’ hangs on the fact that Snook had to have, no MUST HAVE, obtained some of the shirt, but he can provide ZERO EVIDENCE to support this claim.

END OF STORY!

M., since Hal Snook ran the lab at Napa and was very well known to the guys at SFCO, I think Mr Horan believes he just walked right in there and took some of the shirt. The symbol on the guy’s "uniform" at Berryessa, though, that’s a real puzzler.

Pretty convenient and lucky for Snook that the killer at Berryessa decided to wear a zodiac crosshair on his outfit,so it gave him a chance to write on the door.

Horan’s theory is as absurd as that person’s theory that claimed Hartnell was in on the murder of Cecelia, and allowed himself to be stabbed to make it look like he was not involved (that guy has seen the movie SCREAM one too many times).

Horan has been discredited on every possible forum now

The Stine murder was not known to be a Zodiac murder until the shirt piece was sent. It was considered a robbery gone really wrong. What would possess Snook to go up to San Francisco, get a piece of bloody shirt, write a letter and get it in the mail the very night that Stine was killed?

I am of the opinion that the dark spots on the letter and envelope are blood from the shirt piece that was put in the letter while it was still wet.

http://www.zodiackiller.com/StineLetter.html

http://www.zodiackiller.com/StineEnvelope.html

Could Snook or anyone, for that matter, have gotten the wet with blood swatch of Paul Stine’s shirt in the letter and envelope that night other than the true Zodiac killer?

The Stine murder was not known to be a Zodiac murder until the shirt piece was sent. It was considered a robbery gone really wrong. What would possess Snook to go up to San Francisco, get a piece of bloody shirt, write a letter and get it in the mail the very night that Stine was killed?

Give that girl a Prize! Thanks for making sense and thinking logically. Of course, in Horan’s warped mind, he could say that Snook had business at the crime lab in SF and took the shirt while he was there and ‘TURNED‘ the Stine murder into a Z murder,

Zodiac made statements. "It would be easier for me to demonstrate." He thought most folks were less intelligent then he was.
Sending in a piece of the dead man’s shirt is a statement. That’s why he took some home with him. Included with a letter which
matches the other letter’s handwriting. The writing on the car door at Berryessa is also a statement, like the Zodiac symbol on
his chest. He probably thought Bryan Hartnell was stupid for not recognizing it. This is my opinion.

Well, it’s a little off the topic of Hal, but I suppose I should share (since I’m the only one still reading the blog, eh?!)

…….. he could say that Snook had business at the crime lab in SF and took the shirt while he was there and ‘TURNED‘ the Stine murder into a Z murder,

Yes, in essence that’s just what he’s said.

He’s alleging that this gentleman was responsible for the murder of Paul Stine.

http://www.sfweekly.com/2000-09-06/news … y-lingers/

Here’s the article where Horan got the picture from.

Wow! Thanks Seagull – you’re always so on the ball with these things, it’s amazing.

I think Horan went looking for things that happened it 1997…hence, Herb Caen and now this guy.

Yes, I think that’s true. It’s still about chasing that case number 97-017, isn’t it.
The fact that this case happened in June ’97 and there’s that date on the photo’s is what pushed him toward it I guess. *shrug*