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This is Lawrence Kane – just sayin

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Just kinda surfing through Zodiac stuff and this photo popped up. Very familiar phot of course. Laurence Kane. He’s been my main POI for quite awhile. However, it’s shocking how close ALA’s writing is to Z. I don’t believe he’s the guy but it’s so close.

 
Posted : March 30, 2017 10:37 am
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Except this is the guy the girls at Lake Berryessa described and I don’t think Kane would have fit the bill for the rest of it.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : March 31, 2017 8:24 pm
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Except this is the guy the girls at Lake Berryessa described and I don’t think Kane would have fit the bill for the rest of it.

That,and the guy seen by the girls doesn’t anything like Z at the Stine crime scene

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Posted : April 11, 2017 11:12 pm
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It would be good if some skilled person on the board could take the LB composite, put the hair on it from Z in the Stine composite, and just thin the face down a bit. This composite shows no facial lines at all. I’m looking at a guy with a small nose & mouth, and maybe light colored eyes. The SF composite shows us a guy with a small nose & mouth, and can’t really tell what color his eyes were, maybe cause it was night time. It would be interesting to see.

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Posted : May 14, 2017 5:06 pm
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To All…..

It would be good if some skilled person on the board could take the LB composite, put the hair on it from Z in the Stine composite, and just thin the face down a bit. This composite shows no facial lines at all. I’m looking at a guy with a small nose & mouth, and maybe light colored eyes. The SF composite shows us a guy with a small nose & mouth, and can’t really tell what color his eyes were, maybe cause it was night time. It would be interesting to see.

BayArea60s

On the corrected Stine murder Zodiac composite (to the right) the witnesses apparently had said that Zodiac’s lips were fuller that on the first composite (to the left), so it seems that Zodiac did have quite full lips, at least the lower lip :

Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me :)

 
Posted : May 14, 2017 5:30 pm
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How the heck did they notice a lower-lip? :)


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : May 14, 2017 8:29 pm
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How the heck did they notice a lower-lip? :)

I don’t know Tahoe, but there was several detailed changes from sketch nr 1 to sketch nr 2, here is what I have noticed:

Lips … from narrow lips to fuller lips
chin … from weak oval chin to stronger squared chin
hairline … from rounded weak widows peak to more distinct pointed widows peak
"II-wrinkles" between the eyes … from 2 smaller symmetric lines to 2 bigger asymmetric
Scars …from no scars to some kind of scars (pimple scars?) on Zodiac’s right lower cheek, chin and neck , possibly also on his left side.

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Posted : May 14, 2017 8:52 pm
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I was just messin’ with ya TF.

I see the minute changes, but don’t know how they saw such small details from afar. Could just be little tweeks the artist did himself to make the guy appear older, but damn, he looks gauntly!

The before and after wouldn’t affect anyone saying "well, that looked like my Daddy before, but now? Nah…" :lol:


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : May 15, 2017 2:19 am
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I’ve often wondered about the different descriptions of Zod the sod as well.
Could the MKZODIAC proposition that it’s a team of hunter/serial-killers be the answer? My logic agrees that it has credibility if the witnesses are to be believed, which I think they should.

First mugshot shown from LB= Larry (as I would accept him to be Larry Kane; I believe he is linked to Donna Lass’ disappearance and therefore part of this conspiracy of killers).

Second mugshot from other witnesses at Paul Stine’s murder= Zodiac team member number 2 (I’m calling him Kurt).

Therefore, it can be assumed there are at least two people involved in this kill-club conspiracy as two different descriptions are given.

The only killer where there weren’t witnesses, the LH opening, I shall call Tom.
I’m going to imagine he is the Zodiac whom communicates with the outside world, the creator of the team and its leader. Why? Because he knew one of these victims and had to try and behave as normal as possible to those around him, whilst at the same time concocting a way out. What better way than to shed suspicion by creating a monster to take the blame? (This thought might also fit with the Lone Wolf/duo scenario, as the variants thrown in to confuse and disorientate are just too complex for the solo guy like BTK or Gary Ridgeway. Hell, even Jack the Ripper didn’t put in as much effort as to what Zod did! So, why the elaboration?)

The report of a variant of vehicle used= owned by another team member. For this change of vehicle, I’m going to imagine that the reason is simple- it’s a different person and therefore a different vehicle from LH to LB. For imagination’s sake, this is also going to be the one who killed at Blue Rock in July, 69. I’m calling him Paul.

That could be a logical reason, but why only these kills tagged to Zodiac? My gut instinct feels like they were initiations to join the kill-club, prepared by Tom in advance to follow his directions. These are the opening initiations, like soldiers or hunters in a kill club making their first kills to join, but obviously they must already have killing experiences beforehand (because a rookie might just screw things up and make mistakes).

Zodiac in name, when the time was right, fell silent. I think that if the kill-club was the fact, then it carried on killing and recruiting. The question is, has it’s legacy truly ended?

 
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