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BDHolland
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My favorite suspect right now is Don Cheney. There are a lot of red flags with that guy. Why on Earth would he say that he licked Leigh’s stamps and gave him his fingerprint? Well because he’s worried that it’s going to be found on the Zodiac letters. His handwriting is similar to Zodiac’s handwriting and they both misspelled the word victim. This is on top of many other interesting coincidences.

Don Cheney said he licked the stamps to explain why ALA’s DNA wasn’t on the stamp. Don’s evolving stories to explains the discrepancies. However Don obviously didn’t know this means someone’s DNA is on it.

Given the Zodiac was not licking even the envelope seals (no saliva, no DNA) this should have been Detective George Bawart’s clue that Don was just making it all up.

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Posted : June 21, 2021 11:50 am
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Still like my POI Ray who lived across the street from the Chronicle and two blocks away from Woolworth at the time of the Zodiac spree. Had a job as a wing walker in southern CA. back in the early 60’s and later was a janitor in the later 60’s. probably never with a woman and later shared a apartment with a gay man the rest of his life, complete loner. Claim to be a killer and later claimed to kill 17 people and look identical to the PH sketch and around the age 35 then. Dress like what the Zodiac was seen wearing in normal life. Had the RH initials So still going with him.

Did you ever put the person in the top secret section, or discuss more? Sorry, I’m not as familiar as some.

 
Posted : June 22, 2021 8:43 pm
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My favorite suspect right now is Don Cheney. There are a lot of red flags with that guy. Why on Earth would he say that he licked Leigh’s stamps and gave him his fingerprint? Well because he’s worried that it’s going to be found on the Zodiac letters. His handwriting is similar to Zodiac’s handwriting and they both misspelled the word victim. This is on top of many other interesting coincidences.

Don Cheney said he licked the stamps to explain why ALA’s DNA wasn’t on the stamp. Don’s evolving stories to explains the discrepancies. However Don obviously didn’t know this means someone’s DNA is on it.

Given the Zodiac was not licking even the envelope seals (no saliva, no DNA) this should have been Detective George Bawart’s clue that Don was just making it all up.

Sorry for the double post. Cheney has always been suspicious to me, and the handwriting is a big deal. But lately I’ve been thinking that the reason why he said that is so that when no positive match came back, he could muddy the definitiveness of it.

 
Posted : June 22, 2021 8:44 pm
Russ Thompson
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I do not think that any of the persons who have been publicly accused of being "the Zodiac" are the perpetrator. Simply because none of the accused have had anything other than anecdotal evidence presented to "link" him/her to the crimes. Most have had nothing but gaseous hearsay send them to the "Zodiac Accused" websites. No physical evidence of any sort links any of the accused to the Zodiac crimes.

Let’s put it this way: Z left his prints in blood at the Stine murder scene. If police ever bring him/her in they could match him very quickly. And they could eliminate the pet suspects even more quickly than that.
Which is why so many people with pet suspects need to disparage the bloody fingerprints…. another conspiracy theory not worth debating.

That was too much!

 
Posted : June 22, 2021 11:51 pm
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Still like my POI Ray who lived across the street from the Chronicle and two blocks away from Woolworth at the time of the Zodiac spree. Had a job as a wing walker in southern CA. back in the early 60’s and later was a janitor in the later 60’s. probably never with a woman and later shared a apartment with a gay man the rest of his life, complete loner. Claim to be a killer and later claimed to kill 17 people and look identical to the PH sketch and around the age 35 then. Dress like what the Zodiac was seen wearing in normal life. Had the RH initials So still going with him.

Did you ever put the person in the top secret section, or discuss more? Sorry, I’m not as familiar as some.

He died in 92 so he is on the all other suspects on page two.
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=997

 
Posted : June 23, 2021 4:09 am
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Still like my POI Ray who lived across the street from the Chronicle and two blocks away from Woolworth at the time of the Zodiac spree. Had a job as a wing walker in southern CA. back in the early 60’s and later was a janitor in the later 60’s. probably never with a woman and later shared a apartment with a gay man the rest of his life, complete loner. Claim to be a killer and later claimed to kill 17 people and look identical to the PH sketch and around the age 35 then. Dress like what the Zodiac was seen wearing in normal life. Had the RH initials So still going with him.

Did you ever put the person in the top secret section, or discuss more? Sorry, I’m not as familiar as some.

He died in 92 so he is on the all other suspects on page two.
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=997

Thank you. Will read.

 
Posted : June 24, 2021 2:29 am
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You’re welcome and cool.

 
Posted : June 24, 2021 6:46 am
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 loom
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My favorite suspect right now is Don Cheney. There are a lot of red flags with that guy. Why on Earth would he say that he licked Leigh’s stamps and gave him his fingerprint? Well because he’s worried that it’s going to be found on the Zodiac letters. His handwriting is similar to Zodiac’s handwriting and they both misspelled the word victim. This is on top of many other interesting coincidences.

Don was a real tall man. At least taller than 6’3". That alone should discount him as the Zodiac.

 
Posted : June 24, 2021 9:40 am
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Don Cheney and Z are similar in that they’re both obsessed with attention, and subscribe to a "no such thing as bad publicity" mentality. As Twitter continues to demonstrate, though, there’s no shortage of people like that in this world. Perhaps half a century ago, that was a noteworthy character trait, but I still don’t think that’s very significant.

Ross Sullivan is probably my favorite of the suspects I’ve studied. Provided the yearbook isn’t a forgery, the handwriting is eerily similar. He’s the spitting image of the Presidio Heights sketch. He was institutionalized (for the final time) shortly after the last confirmed Zodiac letter was mailed. He has the Riverside connection. His mother died, his father abandoned their children, and his brothers moved away, leaving him alone in 1968. But there’s still key evidence missing. Like, knowing where he was from 1969 to 1974, or knowing if he was institutionalized at that time. Fairly important stuff.

I think I’m leaning toward the notion that the real killer was (or is) somebody who either wasn’t considered a suspect, or at least isn’t one of the popular suspects. Unfortunately, due to how badly the case was handled over the years (not just from those involved, but from people who wrote books about why their dog was the Zodiac, further wasting time and muddying the waters), I don’t think his identity will ever come to light. But I sincerely hope that thought is wrong. Outside of Jack the Ripper, this is the highest-profile unsolved serial killer case I’m aware of. Please, let it be solved!

 
Posted : June 24, 2021 11:08 am
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My favorite suspect right now is Don Cheney. There are a lot of red flags with that guy. Why on Earth would he say that he licked Leigh’s stamps and gave him his fingerprint? Well because he’s worried that it’s going to be found on the Zodiac letters. His handwriting is similar to Zodiac’s handwriting and they both misspelled the word victim. This is on top of many other interesting coincidences.

Don Cheney said he licked the stamps to explain why ALA’s DNA wasn’t on the stamp. Don’s evolving stories to explains the discrepancies. However Don obviously didn’t know this means someone’s DNA is on it.

Given the Zodiac was not licking even the envelope seals (no saliva, no DNA) this should have been Detective George Bawart’s clue that Don was just making it all up.

What proof do you have that there was "no saliva, no DNA"? That is an assumption and dangerous to spread these as "FACTS".

 
Posted : June 24, 2021 8:50 pm
BDHolland
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My favorite suspect right now is Don Cheney. There are a lot of red flags with that guy. Why on Earth would he say that he licked Leigh’s stamps and gave him his fingerprint? Well because he’s worried that it’s going to be found on the Zodiac letters. His handwriting is similar to Zodiac’s handwriting and they both misspelled the word victim. This is on top of many other interesting coincidences.

Don Cheney said he licked the stamps to explain why ALA’s DNA wasn’t on the stamp. Don’s evolving stories to explains the discrepancies. However Don obviously didn’t know this means someone’s DNA is on it.

Given the Zodiac was not licking even the envelope seals (no saliva, no DNA) this should have been Detective George Bawart’s clue that Don was just making it all up.

What proof do you have that there was "no saliva, no DNA"? That is an assumption and dangerous to spread these as "FACTS".

Mike Rodelli on Alan Keel is the source.

www.zodiachalloweencard.com has a 400 paged book for free containing the super solution with an overarching explanation of the cards and more.

 
Posted : June 24, 2021 10:04 pm
(@greek1453)
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Kane for a variety of reasons. However, others stick out too. For example if ALA was not the Zodiac (and I lean toward him not being) it’s almost more amazing than if he was with the ten million coincidences (the Zodiac watch and others too numerous to mention.)

 
Posted : June 25, 2021 7:34 am
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I dont have one, because I am afraid its noone who would be considered as suspect. I dont have exact person as suspect, but I would try to make some basic sort of profile. Its just my guess and I´ll explain why I think that:

– age of first murder between 25 – 30 years, and as I honestly believe Zodiac may have been only “one of his characters” he created; I think he quite possibly commited more murders or crimes, than he did as Zodiac (I know that he is not reliable source, but I would not rule out his number 37 as his real body count – and I think that his card sent with ways of killing implies, what kind of killings he actually used – we know about knife, we know about gun, he was never connected to deaths caused by fire or rope). The reason why I think that, his Zodiac murders are extremely cold-blooded (according to crime psychologists, the most prefered ways of murders for serial killers is strangulation, shooting someone with gun or using a knife is not “clean” way of murder and even Gacy went from knife to strangulation, because knife was too much mess even for killer like him), like without any nerve or pressure and he didnt care whether he would be caught or not /at LB attack he spend on place more time than he obviously needed, he didnt try to avoid risc and he didnt panic after Stine murder from seeing police car /and whats the most cheeky from him – he led police officer to him – I mean he could avoid mentioning anything, but he basically did “haha you clowns, it was me and you didnt catch me…”, if you think about that – it was huge risc from him to point that out and he never cared about danger in this “game”)… My guess, that we are searching for someone whose DOB is sometime between 1925 and at latest 1940. If he didnt commit crime murders before Zodiac killing spree (which I actually think he did), he might have been “hardened” by 2nd WW atrocities as very young man… basically for “normal person” – fear and feeling of guilt is normal, ZK had none of these and there must be reason for it. 

– high inteligence (IQ 120+) – there are killers who escape for decades because of pure luck /from most known cases, Gary Ridgway was the one who could and should have been stopped at the beginning as police were directed to him by friend of one of killed girls directly at the very early stage because he recognized his car when victim got in Ridgways car/; Zodiac killer is not the one, he knows his “job” in terms of how to clean traces behind them /I know – late 60s investigation, but he was up to date – he left minimum of traces and I still think that his ciphers are actually “fabricated” evidence which actually leads nowhere…/,

– he was stalker killer, 

– he had a highly qualified job and I would not rule out he was failed LE (if not fired LE; it might have been part of motive) – he has this sort of background (I agree that statements of people mistaking him for sheriff or police officer are not coincident), he had family but possibly went through some sort of bad break-up in relationship (when he blamed “her” for it; but as victims are very different from each other, its not case ala Bundy or Kemper, there is no substitute killing – Bundy´s victims were substitute for his ex-girlfriend; Kemper stopped killing when he finally killed his targeted victim – hated mother),

– rule out everyone who ever publicly mentioned themselves in connection with Zodiac crimes (“I am a zodiac” etc.) or brought any suggestion like that between friends, family, colleagues. SK do not do that in any shape or form, ever.

– considering characters of most notorious catched killers, I see traits or similarities between
1. Zodiac Killer and Rader (just a few similarities: age during crime period; when he announced one of his murders by phone, he let the phone off the hook /I dont know, what others think about this but for me its almost reflex automatic thing to hang up a phone when I used to call from phone booth – what are jobs where you leave phone hang up where you are used to do that?/; multiple ways of killing – strangulation, suffocation, KNIFE, gun used similarly as during LB attack, killing one person but also multiple people at once and of course – sending letters; worked as compliance officer – work obviously motivated by his urge to feel power and control; huge differences between ZK and Rader – obvious sexual motive, he kept souvenirs from crimes /I find it VERY outstanding that Zodiac did NOT, cutting of Stine shirt wasnt souvenir, it was used as evidence to announce “I did it”;  once, it is going to be very interesting (when once ZK will be known) if there is going to be discovered any direct evidence – like knife and hood from LB attack or murder weapons/ ; and final important difference between Rader and ZK – R manipulated with victims after their death – drove them away to different place etc. – Zodiac left everyone at the original place of crime and whats interesting – he remembered it very well /he knew direction of bodyparts for example which suggest he did not leave crime scene in hurry, but “looked at entire scene and remembered it” after doing that),
2.) ZK and Carpenter (similarities – location, very cold-blooded type of killing, age, commited many various crimes and attacks before main murder spree – which I think is going to be similar with ZK, used car /not his own, but he had access to it/ to get on a places where he killed; main difference – obvious sexual motive).
ZK is going to be highly inteligent version of mixture between DR and DC – from famous serial killers, I have never felt anyone else would be so close in terms of personality to what I expect from “who was Zodiac”. In common life among his community, friends, family – ZK was ordinariness personified. Killer with weird type of character would have been apprehended or found long time ago. 

– explanation of 1974 disappearance – 1.) suicide or natural death caused by serious illness (cancer for example); I dont think he died of accident, because his own death (and expectation of it) was part of his motive for killing (obvious from 340 cipher) or 2.) he was arrested for different crimes. I seriously doubt he is alive – due to advanced age and also moving to different state among US would not be reason why to cut communication which he craved- he would find ways how to do that (it would be enough to wait for… four, five years and “re-appear”). 

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