http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=27042
Taking credit for others’ research isn’t research, Sam.
*double*
“Nobody called him Arthur.”
I’m not interesting in taking credit.
I use no tricks, friend. Only posting this find, let alone decide. Please, feel free to post funny pics; I enjoy it as much and maybe even more than you do – although for slightly different reasons. Nonetheless, this information was provided to both VPD and SFPD simultaneously and they did not found it that funny at all.
Have a nice day.
“Nobody called him Arthur.”
600 names isn’t enough? Here are 40,000 of them
Surely…
OLUSOLA BABATUNDE
OLUSEGUN IBIKUNLE
OLUKOREDE ADENUGA
OLATUNJI OLADOYIN MOTUNRAYO
… I don’t have time for this
“Nobody called him Arthur.”
You have not addressed the underlying problem.
Why do you think the one name you found is the correct one when your same method produces 40,000 other ones?
I guarantee that VPD and SFPD will ask that same question. If they even bother to ask, because it should be clear to them that the decoding method is not valid.
Surely…
OLUSOLA BABATUNDE
OLUSEGUN IBIKUNLE
OLUKOREDE ADENUGA
OLATUNJI OLADOYIN MOTUNRAYO… I don’t have time for this
Right. You don’t have time to acknowledge the tens of thousands of common names that are still in that list.
Also, those 4 examples? They are real people. Try googling for them.
Dave, there are 7.5 billion people out there. That’s not the point. The point is that these names have nothing to do with the presented solution.
“Nobody called him Arthur.”
Listen to yourself. You might as well be saying: "Hey, I found this fingerprint. But it’s not complete, so it matches 40,000 other people. My guy is still the killer, though, because I’m just right, and those 40,000 people have nothing to do with my guy."
Sam-
Let’s look at it like this. In your first post in this thread, you wrote:
Additionally, I have a little brain teaser for ya curious folks.
Let’s assume that the part highlighted in red is a cipher you have hidden in there. Let’s decipher it. Presume this key:
N = I R = N A = L T = A H = U B = G I = H V = T L = E E = R
So:
HAVE A LITTLE BRAIN ULTR L EHAAER GNLHI
And guess what – it anagrams to ARTHUR LEIGH ALLEN.
Not to mention that the key itself spells out "IN LAUGHTER"
Can’t you see the problem here? When you take a section of text – as you did – and I just did also, that was probably never intended as a cipher in the first place, and then create your own key, and then anagram the result, you can make it say almost anything.
-glurk
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I don’t believe in monsters.
glurk, yes, but they are not just some random words. Look at the card. Doesn’t that make any sense?
What is the meaning of these four words? Why did he put them there? Paired with the words my name, game, clue. And the double sorry no cipher inside the envelope.
Zodiac was an amateur. And in the matter of fact, that kind of hidden message would look pretty clever for him and he would probably be fond of it.
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And now to…… eh <sighs>
HA HA!!!!!!
Fingerprints -fail
Palm print – fail
Handwriting – fail
witness description – fail
DNA – FAIL!
What makes one so sure that he left his prints on the letters? He did not left his prints on the crime scene, yet he would sent a letter and his fingerprints were all over it? Does it make sense to you?
What makes you so sure that the 40 year old envelope contains an uncontaminated DNA sample? What makes you so sure that it must be Zodiac’s DNA after all? Do you know, that it was compared to the other samples? Is the FBI in possession of the Zodiac Killer’s DNA profile?
Are you a handwriting expert? Probably not, but Sherwood Morill was. Do you know that QD issued an opinion on ALA, which stated: "Do not disqualify THIS SUSPECT on the basis of handwriting". Do you have any idea why?
What witness description fail are you talking about? M.Mageau, B.Hartnell? They did not rule Allen out. Actually, to be frank, M.Mageau has identify him as the killer.
Unfortunately, Paul_Averly, it looks to me like ignorance is a big part of your character. Please do correct me if I’m wrong.
“Nobody called him Arthur.”
Yeah you are wrong. The examples on this thread prove that.
Sorry, but if you think you have a solution to one of the codes, even if it includes ALA, you are more than welcome to present it here for analysis.
Just don’t be surprised if it is quickly debunked.
This also saves LE the trouble of having to be bombarded with bogus solutions.
No, these examples doesn’t prove I’m wrong.
And sorry, but I’m afraid you have little or none final judgement authority on this matter.
Have a nice day, anyway.
“Nobody called him Arthur.”
Being debunked is good.. it releases us all to further attempt’s on our wayward missions. What is needed is a solution that stands the tests of many.
Agreed.
I would like to state categorically, that in no way I consider this finding as a definitive or ultimately conclusive. It might be as well purely accidental coincidence, typical especially for Arthur Leigh Allen.
“Nobody called him Arthur.”
I’m sorry to pile on, but is this just a joke? Sam, you admit that it might be purely coincidence, which is exactly what Doranchack and Glurk are saying. So why argue with them? You’re just wasting everyone’s time.
I understand what you are saying. Arthur Leigh Allen is meaningful, Chris Smith or whatever random name is not. But that is what Paul is trying to say. It’s exactly the same as the cipher. You are seeing what you want to see and choosing to ignore everything else that doesn’t conform to what you want to be there. That is no way to come up with a solution.
Can you tell us which officers at SFPD and Vallejo you have been in contact with and what they said to you? We’ve heard that dozens of times before. If they said that at all, it was just to be polite. Sorry.
I’m not trying to be mean, I’m just trying to tell you why you should try to go about this a different way because you’re only wasting your own time and it will leave you frustrated.
