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Zamantha
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Articles found by Sandy. Posted for Sandy.
The Body was found in a gully off a canal road in West Pittsburg. Found under a blanket in the wooded area, after an anonymous caller tipped off authorities.

Nov. 1992

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Andrea Greeley Ingersoll. Pacheco, CA
July 31,1961-Nov. 10, 1992

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Posted : June 3, 2013 10:23 pm
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Why would Ms. Ingersoll’s murder be a possible Zodiac killing? What am I missing?

When in doubt, don’t.

 
Posted : June 4, 2013 2:05 am
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Why would Ms. Ingersoll’s murder be a possible Zodiac killing? What am I missing?

What you are missing is a murder done with all of the Zodiac’s MO. Do you know that Zodiac liked killing near "water" or towns , streets, anything pertaining to water? He made "phone calls" to let the "police" know where to find the victims ? "Holidays" were important to him. (This case has all of it.) What you don’t know is that I went to find any witness who may have seen the killer. I found one who told me the man was an older man, in his 50’s ( That was in the early 90’s )making him in is 30’s in 1969. He pulled a long knife out from under his front seat and tried to stab her! I was told he had curly to wavy hair. ( Zodiac witness’s said Z had curly/wavy brown hair) he has a full to round face .She said he was about 5ft 8 to 5ft 10, hazel eyes, pot belly, barrel chested. ( Zodiac was described as 5ft 8, barrel chested, pot belly)
If Zodiac is still alive ,then this guy fits the description better than most I have read about, Pittsburg is not very far from Vallejo. There were a total of 10 unsolved female murders in the 1990’s time frame, in the Pittsburg /Antioch area. Don’t forget that a card that could have been from Zodiac ( The Eureka Christmas card )was sent Dec 1990. There were usually Murders by Zodiac around the times of his letters / Cards.

If you are a believer that Zodiac is dead or stopped killing and changed his ways after Paul Stine , then your mind is made up and you won’t see the comparison.
I believe that Zodiac is still alive and has not stopped killing, so when ever I see a murder that has all of the Z’s MO surrounding it , I take a long look at it

 
Posted : June 4, 2013 4:47 am
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Thanks, Sandy.

When in doubt, don’t.

 
Posted : June 4, 2013 4:54 am
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Andrea having been found under a blanket suggests that her killer may have known her. Serial killers do not usually cover their victims and Zodiac was no exception to that aspect.

www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com

 
Posted : June 4, 2013 8:39 pm
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Thanks for posting the articles.
It’s very hard to find any information about the series of murders in and around the Pittsburg/Antioch area in the 90s.

I’m new here, but perhaps I’ll start another thread (for the series) since I believe it ties-in with overall theme.

Andrea having been found under a blanket suggests that her killer may have known her.

Some killers (e.g. EAR/ONS) that bludgeon their victims, cover the victims to prevent being covered with blood, etc…

Here, Ingersoll "died as a result of a ‘traumatic injury’" (bludgeon?).

Serial killers do not usually cover their victims and Zodiac was no exception to that aspect.

The "Cemetery Beach Murders" of Hood & Garcia also found the victims covered with a blanket: http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/3 … a6SMJzAETA

 
Posted : June 5, 2013 5:22 am
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Articles found by Sandy. Posted for Sandy.
The Body was found in a gully off a canal road in West Pittsburg. Found under a blanket in the wooded area, after an anonymous caller tipped off authorities.

Zamantha, sorry if I’m totally missing it, but what’s the newspaper/date you got this from? I’m just trying to find the similar one for Sharon Mattos (also found in ’92 in Pittsburg).

Thanks!

 
Posted : June 12, 2013 7:32 am
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From the byline, I’d say Sandy got the articles from the Contra Costa Times. Looks like Andrea died Nov. 10, 1992. And I read online that Sharon Mattos died July 18, 1992.

The Contra Costa Times online archive only goes back to 1995 and you need to pay $2.95 for each article.

http://www.contracostatimes.com/archive-search

You could contact the Contra Costa Library, reference department, and ask them to get the article for you from their microfilms.

I do not know of any online source that has that newspaper.

www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com

 
Posted : June 12, 2013 8:38 am
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From the byline, I’d say Sandy got the articles from the Contra Costa Times. Looks like Andrea died Nov. 10, 1992. And I read online that Sharon Mattos died July 18, 1992.

The Contra Costa Times online archive only goes back to 1995 and you need to pay $2.95 for each article.

http://www.contracostatimes.com/archive-search

You could contact the Contra Costa Library, reference department, and ask them to get the article for you from their microfilms.

I do not know of any online source that has that newspaper.

Thanks Seagull. That was my guess, too ;)
Since the online only goes back to 1995, I might hafta get my hands dirty!

 
Posted : June 12, 2013 8:42 am
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Articles found by Sandy. Posted for Sandy.
The Body was found in a gully off a canal road in West Pittsburg. Found under a blanket in the wooded area, after an anonymous caller tipped off authorities.

Zamantha, sorry if I’m totally missing it, but what’s the newspaper/date you got this from? I’m just trying to find the similar one for Sharon Mattos (also found in ’92 in Pittsburg).

Thanks!

Yes Nov. 1992 posted above the article, the exact day was not on the article. Would love to find any and all information regarding these killings during that time period! Glad to hear you are interested. Sandy has been telling me about this for awhile. When she mentioned she had this article, we posted it right away. Did you know of Sharon Mattos personally or is it a story that haunted you? Sandy and I can go to the library and start scanning the microfiche, but summer is busy so it would be in the future.
Zam*

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Posted : June 12, 2013 9:06 am
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Yes Nov. 1992 posted above the article, the exact day was not on the article. Would love to find any and all information regarding these killings during that time period! Glad to hear you are interested. Sandy has been telling me about this for awhile. When she mentioned she had this article, we posted it right away. Did you know of Sharon Mattos personally or is it a story that haunted you? Sandy and I can go to the library and start scanning the microfiche, but summer is busy so it would be in the future.
Zam*

Thank you (just replied to your PM, too!)!

No, I don’t know any of them personally. Just haunted by them.

Yes, my Summer is busy, too. My armchair sniffing can only get me so far!

 
Posted : June 12, 2013 9:18 am
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One of the reasons I was so interested in Andrea , was that she was a friend of my eldest daughter, who was being stalked by my suspect. My daughter was with Andrea the night she disappeared.
I went to talk to the prostitutes in 1991 in hopes of protecting them, if he was the man they had described, then I could give them his picture ,so they would not get into his Car/ truck.
One of the girls who got away from the killer screamed when she saw his picture, saying that was the man with the long knife who tried to kill her !
Somehow one of those pictures was sent back to me , it was sent to my PO Box, no return address, the Tulip stamp was upside down.

Teresa Brown lived about 7 blocks from me, she was forced off the road in the same area I was forced off of, but I got away.

There was a man who was following women in the early 90’s, who were driving alone at night on Marsh Creek rd,and Vasco Rd, ( Contra Costa County )the women said he drove a green car and would flash his lights and honk his horn at them.
None of the women pulled over , so none were harmed.

 
Posted : June 22, 2013 8:28 am
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Here is another victim , this one was not raped or robbed. She must have felt that she was being followed , because she asked her co-workers to follow her home the night she was stabbed to death.

KTVU Profiles Unsolved Homicide Case

KTVU Channel 2 last night carried a story on the unsolved homicide case of Sylvia Valdivia. You can view the story by visiting the KTVU website or by clicking this link: http://tinyurl.com/mbf28br

 
Posted : June 22, 2013 9:52 pm
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Here is another victim , this one was not raped or robbed. She must have felt that she was being followed , because she asked her co-workers to follow her home the night she was stabbed to death.

KTVU Profiles Unsolved Homicide Case

KTVU Channel 2 last night carried a story on the unsolved homicide case of Sylvia Valdivia. You can view the story by visiting the KTVU website or by clicking this link: http://tinyurl.com/mbf28br

Do you think your suspect might have been stalking Valdivia, too?

Valdivia had a co-worker follow her home (from working at Mis Amigos grocery store) because she was afraid she was being stalked.

Here’s a brief article on Silvia Valdivia (note it’s Silvia):

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/CONTRA-COSTA-COUNTY-Woman-s-body-found-2554598.php

The CCC Sheriff’s Office also has her featured on their FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Contra-Costa-Sheriffs-Office-Unsolved-HomicidesMissing-Persons-Page/538390086223565?fref=ts

 
Posted : June 23, 2013 5:31 am
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Here is another victim , this one was not raped or robbed. She must have felt that she was being followed , because she asked her co-workers to follow her home the night she was stabbed to death.

KTVU Profiles Unsolved Homicide Case

KTVU Channel 2 last night carried a story on the unsolved homicide case of Sylvia Valdivia. You can view the story by visiting the KTVU website or by clicking this link: http://tinyurl.com/mbf28br

Do you think your suspect might have been stalking Valdivia, too?

Valdivia had a co-worker follow her home (from working at Mis Amigos grocery store) because she was afraid she was being stalked.

Here’s a brief article on Silvia Valdivia (note it’s Silvia):

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/CONTRA-COSTA-COUNTY-Woman-s-body-found-2554598.php

The CCC Sheriff’s Office also has her featured on their FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Contra-Costa-Sheriffs-Office-Unsolved-HomicidesMissing-Persons-Page/538390086223565?fref=ts

I do not believe that Darlene Ferrin’s sister Pam and I were the only women who were being stalked by this man. So yes there is a very good chance that he was attracted to Silvia. This is also close to the area that he was spotted driving around as if trolling for victims. !0 unsolved female murders, made me want to help catch the killer of these women. That is how I found Louisa who got away from him and his knife. He was persistent in trying to get her she told me, I hope she is ok ? Louisa did make a report to Sheriff Linda Reno about her encounter, that was before Louisa saw the picture of the man she got away from. This same man went after another one of my friends on Willow Pass rd less than a mile from the apt that Silvia was killed. So there are more of us that he enjoys watching ,following, tormenting, forcing off the roads in CC county. I can not express the feeling of evil that I felt when I stood toe to toe with this man. He looked at me with such contempt that I have never seen before. I have no idea why he came after me starting in Vallejo 1968 ? Thank you very much for the other links. I don’t do face book, so I am guessing that was where you read she was being stalked ?

 
Posted : June 23, 2013 11:13 am
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