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Redlands is in Southern CA near Riverside in San Bernardino. DId these stories run in Bay area papers? If not, the sender of these had a connection to southern CA near Riverside in order to read these papers, BEFORE the ‘Riverside connection’ was made.

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Posted : January 18, 2016 5:41 am
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I think the ‘C HARRY OTT’ is a clue of some sort.

There was a Guy named Harry Ott in the Vallejo & Napa area, and his name was in the papers a couple times. However, the ‘HARRY OTT’ that you can see on the letter, has an unbalanced or uneven line of print. Seems like HARRY & OTT may be from two different sources.

A Harry Ott died in 1974 in the Napa/Vallejo area

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Posted : January 18, 2016 5:53 am
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Just kinda thinking out loud here….

Redlands DAILY Facts
DAY BY DAY (daily) forecast
Almost all of the forcast is covered except for the 1st, 2nd and 30th (weekend days).
Flt three of a kind is thought to be the flt 555 in the cancer paste. Didnt Howard say these were daily flights at same time each day?

Maybe this person is a cancer patient enroute to or home from cancer treatment. Combining this letter and thoughts of the cancer paste where you have action guide, magic amulet and c harry ott or chariot in the way that Mrr. Lowe put it "swing low sweet chariot".

Still thinking…..

Soze

 
Posted : January 18, 2016 7:38 am
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Just kinda thinking out loud here….

Redlands DAILY Facts
DAY BY DAY (daily) forecast
Almost all of the forcast is covered except for the 1st, 2nd and 30th (weekend days).
Flt three of a kind is thought to be the flt 555 in the cancer paste. Didnt Howard say these were daily flights at same time each day?

Still thinking…..

Soze

Yeah, I think they went from southern CA to SF. He touches on it here-
http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/5418#.Vpxhb_krKM8

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Posted : January 18, 2016 7:53 am
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From this Viet Nam Protest website: http://namnesia-antidote.blogspot.com/2 … month.html

Days Lived 7,966 Wayne Harry Ott born on 10/06/1945 died on 07/29/1967

 
Posted : January 30, 2016 6:43 am
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http://fourcolorshadows.blogspot.com/20 … -1977.html

"I discovered Tom Sutton through his humor work at Marvel in the 1960s but he also did some westerns and even a few superheroes. He was the original artist on Vampirella when her stories first appeared from Warren. Oddly enough, though, it was at low-rent Charlton that Sutton was given his head and he really ran with it! Here is a literately written and intoxicatingly drawn short piece of pseudo-psyhedelic horror as reprinted in the brand-new Chilling Archives of Horror collection, TOM SUTTON’S CREEPY THINGS, available now here! Highly recommended!"

Subway Stop-Tom Sutton-1977

I know this is 1977, but here’s what makes it zynchronic:

The Masque of the Red Death [Tom Sutton, from the story by Edgar Allan Poe

From Professor H’s Wayback Machine: http://professorhswaybackmachine.blogsp … -pt-2.html

http://professorhswaybackmachine.blogsp … -1961.html

Thursday, December 25, 2014
Poe 1967, Pt. 2
(Continued from Poe 1967, Pt. 1)

EERIE 12
"THE MASQUE OF THE RED DEATH"

The real "golden age" of POE comics continues!

Warren, in late 1967, ran into some financial difficulties. While Forry Ackerman’s baby "FAMOUS MONSTERS" plowed on with no noticable drop in quality (that would come in the period following Boris Karloff’s death), both CREEPY and EERIE lost most of their top talent, as well as their editor & top writer Archie Goodwin. They also began having about 50% of every issue consist of reprints of material that wasn’t that old to begin with. And, as someone pointed out to me, they even began having covers appear on the wrong issues, and mis-spelled words on some of those covers. Good grief!

As things were just beginning to go right over the edge, a real gem appeared, from one of the few NEW artists who had real talent, and must have been eager enough to work for lower page rates: TOM SUTTON. Several years ago, while re-reading a big chunk of my Warren collection, I was reminded that his art had apparently had a big influence on the work I did while in high school– both in my home-made "crime" and "horror" comics. In effect, this guy was one of my unsung heroes!

Which brings us to Warren’s 5th POE adaptation:
"The Masque Of The Red Death".

This was the 6th comics adaptation of the story, following Marvel’s ADVENTURES INTO WEIRD WORLDS #4 (Spring’52), Charlton’s THE THING #2, Editora Continental’s CLASSICOS DE TERROR #9 (1960), Marvel’s STRANGE TALES #83 (Apr’61), and Dell’s Move Classic of THE MASQUE OF THE RED DEATH, the last one some 3 years earlier. Suffice to say, Warren’s version– by the departing Archie Goodwin & the incoming Tom Sutton– was the most "authentic" to date.

As an aside, the cover, illustrating a scene from the 1944 movie THE MUMMY’S CURSE– was apparently done by artist Dan Adkins to accompany a reprint of the comics adaptation of THE MUMMY’S HAND, done a few years earlier in Warren’s MONSTER WORLD #2 (Jan’65). Probably as a result of the editorial confusion going on at this time, the story appeared in CREEPY #17 (Oct’67) instead of EERIE #12 (Nov’67). "OOPS!" Incidentally, while Russ Jones & Joe Orlando are credited with that particular movie adaptation, I’ve read the art was actually done by Dan Adkins, uncredited, in his most "Wally Wood"-like mode.

EERIE 12
cover by DAN ADKINS (Warren / November 1967)

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And this:

Monday, November 17, 2014
Poe 1961, Pt. 1
(Continued from Poe 1960, Pt. 8)

STRANGE TALES 83
"MASQUERADE PARTY"

Here’s one that might have completely escaped my notice, except for running across mention of it at several different sites.

Marvel Comics (at times in its early history sometimes referred to as Timely or Atlas) was always a 2nd-level publisher– somewhere in the middle as far as quality was concerned– whose specialty was flooding the market with imitations of whatever was then currently popular.

STRANGE TALES was one of many such anthology titles that started out with "horror", but then toned it down when the Comics Code came in, doing instead what might be deemed "mystery" stories, or, later, "giant monster" stories. (Later still, "super-heroes" and other things– but that’s another project.)

What we have here is is a story that is either inspired by, or, a loose adaptation of, "The Masque Of The Red Death". Perhaps the recent Roger Corman Poe film HOUSE OF USHER was part of the inspiration? (Particularly, the fact that Corman had been considering "Masque" for its follow-up?)

This was the 4th comics version of this story, following Marvel’s ADVENTURES INTO WEIRD WORLDS #4 (Spring’52), Charlton’s THE THING #2 (Apr’52), and Editora Continental’s CLASSICOS DE TERROR #9 (1960), the latter, the year before. Unlike the previous two, but like the previous Marvel version, this was more in line with the 2 early EC Comics Poe adaptations, in being only very loosely inspired by the source material.

Supplying story, art & quite probably dialogue as well is Stev Ditko, unquestionably one of the most unique stylists and voices in the history of American comics. As I read this and studied the art, I became convinced that "Cara Frost" was modelled on a real person. She reminds me either of a young Bette Davis, or perhaps an "evil" Lucille Ball. Any ideas? Enjoy!"

 
Posted : January 30, 2016 7:49 am
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Here’s another one,same paper

Here is a picture of afore mentioned cross.

 
Posted : September 3, 2019 8:53 pm
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For those who haven’t already seen this, here is the font of the Flight 555 (FLT 555) from the Day-by-day forecast for Cancer. Shown to me by Rubislaw32, it is the font for State Express 555 filter cigarettes. Then I found a Youtube promotional video entitled Flight 555 for the same cigarette. The choice of "forecast for Cancer" and cigarettes unsurprising.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72JQkkf … e=emb_logo

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Posted : February 5, 2020 3:29 am
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For those who haven’t already seen this, here is the font of the Flight 555 (FLT 555) from the Day-by-day forecast for Cancer. Shown to me by Rubislaw32, it is the font for State Express 555 filter cigarettes. Then I found a Youtube promotional video entitled Flight 555 for the same cigarette. The choice of "forecast for Cancer" and cigarettes unsurprising.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72JQkkf … e=emb_logo

American cancer society maybe ? Also not long before the Lake Berryessa attack the students at PUC held a march against cigarettes and smoking.

 
Posted : February 5, 2020 3:58 am
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"Also not long before the Lake Berryessa attack the students at PUC held a march against cigarettes and smoking". Any links or cuttings? The Zodiac Watch in extremely bold lettering, bearing in mind his crosshairs and the timepiece, seems pertinent.

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Posted : February 5, 2020 4:29 am
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"Also not long before the Lake Berryessa attack the students at PUC held a march against cigarettes and smoking". Any links or cuttings? The Zodiac Watch in extremely bold lettering, bearing in mind his crosshairs and the timepiece, seems pertinent.

Yes it was in numerous papers at the time. I will get some posted in the morning Richard.

 
Posted : February 5, 2020 4:33 am
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As promised Richard.

 
Posted : February 5, 2020 11:14 pm
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Also.

 
Posted : February 5, 2020 11:15 pm
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Something that peeks my attention about these two mailing are that they were done in the time period that Leona Roberts was being held captive by her killer. It does make you wonder if the Leo page is alluding to her obviously due to her name being LEOna.

 
Posted : February 5, 2020 11:18 pm
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Thanks Cragle for the cuttings, that is fantastic. Two great minds think alike. :D

https://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-ne … hth-victim

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Posted : February 5, 2020 11:35 pm
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