Bay A—I still don’t think it was ALA with an accomplice for the last murder. The reason being, ALA didn’t seem to have any real close friends. But some think the LB murderer could have been an imposter. He was described as larger than the Stine murderer, and the kids got a good look at the Stine murderer.
Another possibility is the Z was wearing some padding as a disguise at LB. If so, maybe it was Ted K.
When you say the WC "made some mistakes" that is being ridiculously charitable to this band of criminals who covered up the murder of the prez.
I think that your original response to me mischaracterized my post, and here you misquoted me. It’s Ok, I just think we are arguing two different points and not actually against each other. I just wanted to clear that up, I don’t want to discuss this more on this thread.
I would think at some point LE would have brought Bryan in had him view it and give his opinion if that could be the guy who attacked them.
They did in fact and he said he didn’t think it was him.
Oh I don’t forget what Cecilia said at all. you need to take what she said in the context she was saying it. Collins had asked her to compare Z’s size to himself, he said he weighed about 165 lbs. I think it was, somewhere in there, Cecilia was saying Z was larger than Collins. Remember too Z was packing a lot of gear on him, and when Cecilia got a much closer look at Z he was larger than he would normally be. Bryan I think said he guessed Z to be around 225 lbs., but again Bryan only saw Z with a jacket on, the cowling over the jacket, the hood, and the belt with all the gear around his waist. that would tend to make anyone appear larger, heavier, than they truly are. Cecilia would have made a great witness, she was watching Z for quite a while, and gals notice lots of stuff. There’s a point in the video where Collins is asking Cecilia, I think his question was, if Z was carrying anything in his hands, a bag, etc. So he is referring to when she was watching Z across the peninsula, that’s what they had been discussing, so it was a critical point, but Cecilia, understandably answers to how Z looked when he came out from behind the tree. And Collins doesn’t pursue the question any further.
In fairness to Collins, he didn’t have time to interrogate the girl for a long time. He had other things to do, and of course he didn’t know she would die in the hospital so he hoped they could get a more complete statement from her later. But I believe she said the Z weighed at least 50 lbs. more than Collins, so she was on track with Bryan Hartnell. Bigger than the descriptions at PH.
When you say the WC "made some mistakes" that is being ridiculously charitable to this band of criminals who covered up the murder of the prez.
I think that your original response to me mischaracterized my post, and here you misquoted me. It’s Ok, I just think we are arguing two different points and not actually against each other. I just wanted to clear that up, I don’t want to discuss this more on this thread.
Well, you said "the medical examiner that committed the errors in the Warren Report actually did make legitimate mistakes." Earlier you stated "the Warren Commission is wrong in several key places." If you like, we can remove the quotation marks from my post but the spirit of my post remains the same. You are portraying the WC as just a bunch of incompetent bumblers when in fact they were engaged in an intentional cover-up of the murder of JFK.
Yes, in context. THAT theory I was talking about, which is different from the idea in Mark Lane’s book that you are talking about, agreed with the WC and concluded that the "medical examiner… made legitimate mistakes." and I cited that as one of the reasons against that theory.
Does that make sense?
End of the World….
Oh in complete fairness to Collins, he was very aware and respectful of Cecilia’s grave condition, and Cecilia was doing the best she could also. Again, put a belt similiar to what Z was wearing around your waist, measure your waist, then figure what your weight would appear to be if your waist was that large. Then your upper torso is covered in a jacket, covered with his Z symbol and then a hood, and baggy pants. Everything Z had on him, makes him appear to be larger than he was. and I’m sure it was the last thing on their minds at the time.
Hey did you notice the posts after your 10/17/16, went to JFK and the WC? I thought that was odd….How would that even happen?
Yes, in context. THAT theory I was talking about, which is different from the idea in Mark Lane’s book that you are talking about, agreed with the WC and concluded that the "medical examiner… made legitimate mistakes." and I cited that as one of the reasons against that theory.
Does that make sense?
No.
End of the World….
Oh in complete fairness to Collins, he was very aware and respectful of Cecilia’s grave condition, and Cecilia was doing the best she could also. Again, put a belt similiar to what Z was wearing around your waist, measure your waist, then figure what your weight would appear to be if your waist was that large. Then your upper torso is covered in a jacket, covered with his Z symbol and then a hood, and baggy pants. Everything Z had on him, makes him appear to be larger than he was. and I’m sure it was the last thing on their minds at the time.
Hey did you notice the posts after your 10/17/16, went to JFK and the WC? I thought that was odd….How would that even happen?
In the very first post on this thread, mexiatexas mentioned his theory about the JFK assassination. That’s where it started. Then some people just slowly began to respond to it because the parallel topic going on was ALA as a possible Z suspect.
Seems to me like Mexia mentioned it in his last sentence in the first post. No one responded. then way later it flipped back to JFK. He did mention at the end of his post we had to face it that ALA was Z. Wonder what he was basing that on?, there’s no evidence to support it, none of the eyewitnesses to Z ID ALA as Z, handwriting experts said ALA was not Z, so not sure why we have to "Face It", that ALA is probably Z. Lack of evidence alone suggests he isn’t.
Seems to me like Mexia mentioned it in his last sentence in the first post. No one responded. then way later it flipped back to JFK. He did mention at the end of his post we had to face it that ALA was Z. Wonder what he was basing that on?, there’s no evidence to support it, none of the eyewitnesses to Z ID ALA as Z, handwriting experts said ALA was not Z, so not sure why we have to "Face It", that ALA is probably Z. Lack of evidence alone suggests he isn’t.
Well, Bay A, mexia is far from the only one to flop down his theories without much (or any) factual evidence to back it up. But far be it from me to castigate the dude (or lady, if that’s the case.) "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
This particular blog is so nearly dead that I’m sure the moderators are happy to have any posts at all, unsupported though the theories expounded therein may be.
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I wasn’t castigating Mexia, "the dude", I was pointing out that in the first report in this thread, in his last sentence, Mexia mentions a comparison of Z case to JFK case. that’s the last it’s mentioned at all until you and Duckking bring up JFK again then it’s your entire messages were about JFK???? I was just asking you how that could happen. It is like you just switched to another topic in the middle of a thread…..It wasn’t Mexia’s conversation that was weird……He started this thread in January, JFK doesn’t get mentioned again until Oct, 9 months later…That’s weird.
Mexia originally mentioned JFK in his post, paraphrased, about how it was a mystery like Zodiac. Ophion responded to it with some of his thoughts about that and JFK, and then so did I and me and Endoftheworld have just been kind of going back and forth on the subject. Like he said, there’s not much else to talk about.
I totally understand how that is confusing and I’m sorry for mixing this thread up. I wanted to get the posts moved and continue the conversation in another topic, but that didn’t end up happening.
I think there’s already a JFK thread. I originally thought somehow another thread got copied over, and was just originally wondering how that could happen.
A good healthy majority of Americans, and also a majority of the rest of the world, believe there was a conspiracy in the JFK murder.
Of course, anybody can believe anything he or she wants to, but just acknowledge the fact that you are in the minority if you accept the lone nut theory. And being in the minority doesn’t mean you’re a brave individual standing up for the cause of truth against the establishment. Quite the contrary. In this case, the establishment, as exemplified by all corporate media and almost all politicians, goes along with the minority opinion also.
IMHO, anybody who actually knows how to read and write, and actually looks into the JFK murder AT ALL, can plainly see there was a conspiracy (i.e. more than one person involved). It’s my opinion that people that still say they go along with the lone nut theory are either functionally illiterate, or trying, for whatever reason, to brown-nose the establishment.
