Now, let me ask another question. How easy would it be to reverse engineer that code? In other words, create an alternate 18 that, using the exact same process, would produce: C408127.

I really do not know if I can, I already tried to make (convert) the EBEORIETEMETEHHPITI in 04788125460 which is the number of my driver’s license and did not get success.
Marcelo

And that’s my point, if you can’t come up with 18 letters that will, using the same method, produce a pre-defined drivers license number similar in length to Allen’s, then he likely couldn’t either. You are smarter than Art Allen, too.

You mentioned you found the methodology in a book that included Allen’s drivers license. That tells me the people who wrote the book and came up with the methodology had their solution chosen.

If you read your account above, how you needed to find a way to come up with the "B"… that too is what I’m saying. You needed a "B" so you thought about ways to get one, and finally did. Had you needed some other letter I’m sure that could’ve been found as well.

Now, let me ask another question. How easy would it be to reverse engineer that code? In other words, create an alternate 18 that, using the exact same process, would produce: C408127.

I really do not know if I can, I already tried to make (convert) the EBEORIETEMETEHHPITI in 04788125460 which is the number of my driver’s license and did not get success.
Marcelo

I doubt that you tried hard enough. I’m sure you could make your number appear. Especially if you are creative with the rules. Here are things you can change:

– Multiply instead of add.
– Put letters in ascending instead of descending order.
– Split letters into different groups (besides vowels and consonants)
– All the different ways to divide the resulting columns and rows in the resulting grid of numbers
– All the different ways to fill in missing digits using addition, division, multiplication, subtraction
– All the different ways to turn number shapes into other number shapes by splitting them into lines, like you did to force the letter B to appear.

Since you get to make up the rules, you can invent a coincidence generator to make a very specific coincidence happen.

That is why coincidence generators are garbage.

Now, let me ask another question. How easy would it be to reverse engineer that code? In other words, create an alternate 18 that, using the exact same process, would produce: C408127.

I really do not know if I can, I already tried to make (convert) the EBEORIETEMETEHHPITI in 04788125460 which is the number of my driver’s license and did not get success.
Marcelo

I doubt that you tried hard enough. I’m sure you could make your number appear. Especially if you are creative with the rules. Here are things you can change:

– Multiply instead of add.
– Put letters in ascending instead of descending order.
– Split letters into different groups (besides vowels and consonants)
– All the different ways to divide the resulting columns and rows in the resulting grid of numbers
– All the different ways to fill in missing digits using addition, division, multiplication, subtraction
– All the different ways to turn number shapes into other number shapes by splitting them into lines, like you did to force the letter B to appear.

Since you get to make up the rules, you can invent a coincidence generator to make a very specific coincidence happen.

That is why coincidence generators are garbage.

Marclean, todos os seus métodos são "geradores coincidência". Eles são pistas não reais. Aqui está um exemplo com base em como você encontrou a data de nascimento na solução do 408: ? Viewtopic.php p = 45502 # p45502

Yes Mr Doranchak !!
Thank you for the link .
I remembered this generator but got lost in the topic pages, I would link here !!
thank you

Now, let me ask another question. How easy would it be to reverse engineer that code? In other words, create an alternate 18 that, using the exact same process, would produce: C408127.

I really do not know if I can, I already tried to make (convert) the EBEORIETEMETEHHPITI in 04788125460 which is the number of my driver’s license and did not get success.
Marcelo

And that’s my point, if you can’t come up with 18 letters that will, using the same method, produce a pre-defined drivers license number similar in length to Allen’s, then he likely couldn’t either. You are smarter than Art Allen, too.

You mentioned you found the methodology in a book that included Allen’s drivers license. That tells me the people who wrote the book and came up with the methodology had their solution chosen.

If you read your account above, how you needed to find a way to come up with the "B"… that too is what I’m saying. You needed a "B" so you thought about ways to get one, and finally did. Had you needed some other letter I’m sure that could’ve been found as well.

Again forgive me if
The translator cause misunderstandings.
The books I mentioned are on the case of the Zodiac killer and not decoding methods.
What I wanted to talk about is that originally, I found 8,672,352.
The numbers at the beginning were just the sum of the vowels (numbers) above and consonants (numbers) below.
They worked by adding, dividing, multiplying.
The number 52 is what gave me the idea
5 lines
2 columns

after that, no results for days
until one day, by chance, I multiplied a calculator 166776 x 52 resulted 8672352.
See, I am sincere, how can I force it.
Anyway, I give each of the judgment that make me and that I did.
Compared to the end result, I repeat, I can not prove anything.
but its all right its all right Mysterious Way
Marcelo

doubt that you tried hard enough. I’m sure you could make your number appear. Especially if you are creative with the rules. Here are things you can change:

– Multiply instead of add.
– Put letters in ascending instead of descending order.
– Split letters into different groups (besides vowels and consonants)
– All the different ways to divide the resulting columns and rows in the resulting grid of numbers
– All the different ways to fill in missing digits using addition, division, multiplication, subtraction
– All the different ways to turn number shapes into other number shapes by splitting them into lines, like you did to force the letter B to appear.

Since you get to make up the rules, you can invent a coincidence generator to make a very specific coincidence happen.

That is why coincidence generators are garbage.

Mr. Doranchak with due venia
You’re doing wrong judgment of me.
I am a man of my word, and believe me, I tried in many ways to see if he thought things other suspects, and even tried to force my driver’s license
Believe me, I am an honorable man.
Marcelo

Z131832 !
Well, back to an approach that is obvious, I am stubborn, but not by preference by the suspect (Leigh), but by jumping out at me when I look the ciphers,I’m honest and say, I have no reason to force it, if he had other suspects present immediately, incidentally, I swear, work with all the data I can from all the suspects, and so far nothing has appeared !!!
Finally, this approach is a simple anagram, I figured with them yet, (I suppose) not deciphered Z13 Z 32 and what I will call Z18, which are nonsensical letters that appear at the end of Z408 (cracked).
(Sequence fact that I have published my theory here:
http://zodiacode1933.blogspot.co.uk/201 … heory.html)

We have the number of symbols in numerical order

13 … 18 …. 32 —– please PLEASE NOTE THAT THE SUM OF Z 13, Z 18 and Z 32 is
63, which is exactly the number of symbols that make up the unbroken Z340. (We would have this "Triple Z" key anyway )

And as this picture below we have another "coincidence"

Marcelo

My Name is ——–

A………………………..M
L EIGH

There are two problems here.
– There is no certainty that Cherry was indeed Z infamous victim
– And, of course, Allen, was investigated to exhaustion in other cases.
Why insist on ‘Allen’?!
Believe me, I have no reason to force it, are just things I observed and I have found.

see rebuttal here : http://zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2938

Marcelo

Hello
Here is the book in which I had my first knowledge about the infamous Z,
http://pt.slideshare.net/ederprado3/ilana-casoy-serial-killer-louco-ou-cruel page 318

From what I saw, it was upgraded citing the disposal of Leigh Allen with Z.
The photo of the fact that the very small living driver’s license that made me think of beginning that this was the number 8672352, the other book is authored d John Douglas but can not remember the name, I know that this author is a former FBI agent .It was where I saw the "z18" (alias in the chapter on the Zodiac he nor quoted Leigh Allen, cited the "Star Bob" which was the nickname given in RG books.)

 With respect to this, theoretical code, I am also thinking of how those who create do something so complex and expert in construction and yet so simple. Spelling errors can be explained because of that, forcing certain letters so that in the end the sequence 18 to appear at the end.
If he, whoever, in hypothesis, created a "code" so should have a giant IQ, something unknown to that Leigh had.

Look, it would be easier for me to "force" (something that I was accused), Unabomber, Ross, Manalli (among others) and try to please one or the other, and draw attention to me, and not, as I see, inciting hatred and dislike this or that about me,
 but how can I do this, I repeat, do not force anything, I did not think anything of them other suspects.

Otherwise, there is no way I can discuss the case itself, which besides the disposal by examination of DNA (which is enough to me), ALA was "kicked" by Z researchers by a variation of things in which I’m sure everyone is almost certain.

It’s a mystery to me that I’ve seen these things, but please do not hate me Marcelo Leandro personally and do not attack my honor, hate my ideas and refute them.

Marcelo

Marcelo-

No one here hates you. I think that everyone knows that you are a very polite and friendly person. But it IS the ideas you present that many of us have issues with.

I can only speak for myself, but I think that most of the time, you are going about things the wrong way. Try to imagine that there are NO Zodiac suspects. Imagine that NO ONE knows who Zodiac was – which is an actual fact. Take the things that we do know, the evidence we have, and see where that leads by itself.

Forget about suspects, known names, their birth dates, etc. Research with a totally open mind. I think it’s a better approach. Just my opinion…

-glurk

Marcelo-

No one here hates you. I think that everyone knows that you are a very polite and friendly person. But it IS the ideas you present that many of us have issues with.

I can only speak for myself, but I think that most of the time, you are going about things the wrong way. Try to imagine that there are NO Zodiac suspects. Imagine that NO ONE knows who Zodiac was – which is an actual fact. Take the things that we do know, the evidence we have, and see where that leads by itself.

Forget about suspects, known names, their birth dates, etc. Research with a totally open mind. I think it’s a better approach. Just my opinion…

-glurk

Hello Mr Glurk

I am grateful for the answer.
I have an open mind, and as I said, maybe I’m just what I want to see, or am I fooling myself.
Otherwise this topic is just to share these things, that does not prove anything. But feel free to post.
and citing that even I at the beginning of the topic.

one of it’s know that we are nothing, know nothing and all we see is in part.

Thank you again

cheers

Marcelo

Sorry
Who does not like these my stuff just ignore.
Looking at the card, we see several eyes !!!
Words PARADICE SLAVES with theoretical, purposeful error results in a rearrangement Morse, in theory at:

PARADICESLAVES morse

.--. .- .-. .- -.. .. -.-. . ... .-.. .- ...- . ...

SEVALSECIDARAP (reverse)

... . ...- .- .-.. ... . -.-. .. -.. .- .-. .- .--.

morse rearrangement:

.. ... .. - .- .-.. . . . .- .-.. .-.. . -. -. . -.-- . 

play with:http://morsecode.scphillips.com/translator.html

ISITALEEEALLENNEYE

or
IS IT A LEEE ALLENN EYE

IS IT A LEE ALLEN EYE

Marcelo

Hello
Another morse theory.
I was always intrigued by the fact that the main suspect’s name (ALLEN) appear in PARADICE word, which we all know was spelled wrongly by the author, however it is possible that the error was intentional, in say, a kind of "subcode" staff. Never the main suspect’s name appears with the misspelled word in the right way (PARADISE). Then I saw the junction of the Word with the Word PARADICE SLAVES, the Name ARTHUR, also appears !!!

first we have the words PARADICE SLAVES.
We reverse the order

SEVALSECIDARAP
Converted into morse

... . ...- .- .-.. ... . -.-. .. -.. .- .-. .- .--.

Play

... . .. .- .-. - .... ..- .-. .. -.. .- .-. .- .--.

result
SEIARTHURIDARAP

second, only the word PARADICE
We reverse the order

ECIDARAP

Converted into morse

 . -.-. .. -.. .- .-. .- .--.

Play

.- .-.. .-.. . -. -. .- .--.

result

ALLENNAP

u can play with http://morsecode.scphillips.com/translator.html

Marcelo

Hello all , searching in my morse theory, I found this coincidence in ETHHP the Z18 sequence, which is the only time the letters equal are nearby on the line, if the letter H, I observed that maintaining the standard then by changing the H with position of the letter P, this encoded in morse name Leigh.

I found it interesting and made the game down, eliminated the sequence ETHHP and kept the rest. (EBEORIETPITI).
At the end of "decodification" the possible message:

LEIGH DRIVE AT GUN

It is worth remembering that worked on this Z18 and found the number of the suspect’s driver’s licensehttp://zodiacode1933.blogspot.com.br/2013/07/ebeorietemethhpiti-theory.html. I found it interesting that.

Marcelo
EBEORIETEMETHHPITI

EBEORIETEMETHHPITI

ETHHP
ETHPH

ETHPH IN MORSE

. - .... .--. ....

"DECODE

.-.. . .. --. ....

result =LEIGH

"remaining letters"

EBEORIETEMITI

"MORSE GAME"
EB EO RI E TE MI TI

TI EB IR ET OE IM E

 - .. / . -... / .. .-. / . - / --- . / .. -- / .
- ..  . -...  .. .-.  . -  --- .  .. --  .

"DECODE

 -..  .-. ..  ...- .  .-  - --.  ..- -.   

"Message"
DRIVE AT GUN

"Final Message"
LEIGH DRIVE AT GUN

play with morse here : http://morsecode.scphillips.com/translator.html

Image "decodification scheme"