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(@cragle)
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Just realised the associated Newspaper article is not showing.

 
Posted : June 18, 2019 12:46 pm
(@theforeigner)
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I think I have found the Pigeon Boys Address.

This is what I have found on the 934 Cornell ave address and name Lawrence.

I have not yet bin able to find out the name of "Pigeon boy"

The woman named Lena (nee Daviner) / "housewife"
is not married to Joseph Lawrence but to August Lawrence,
they married Jan 9, 1927.

And Rita "Housewife" is is not married to Joseph Lawrence
she is August Lawrence’s mother.

1940

Joseph Lawrence
in the California, Voter Registrations, 1900-1968
Name: Joseph Lawrence
Residence Year: 1940
Street address: 934 Cornell ave
Residence Place: Alameda , California, USA
Party Affiliation: Communist
Occupation: Baker
(No other Lawrence listed at the address)

1938
SAME YEAR PIGON BOY WAS BORN

Joseph Lawrence (No other Lawrence is listed at the address)
in the California, Voter Registrations, 1900-1968
Name: Joseph Lawrence
Residence Year: 1938
Street address: 934 Cornell ave
Residence Place: Alameda , California, USA
Party Affiliation: Communist
Occupation: Haker
(No other Lawrence listed at the address)

1930

Joseph Lawrence
in the California, Voter Registrations, 1900-1968
Name: Joseph Lawrence
Residence Year: 1930
Street address: 934 Cornell ave
Residence Place: Alameda , California, USA
Party Affiliation: Socialist
Occupation: Laborer.

"Housewife":
Mrs Lena Lawrence
in the California, Voter Registrations, 1900-1968
Name: Mrs Lena Lawrence
Residence Year: 1930
Street address: 934 Cornell ave
Residence Place: Alameda , California, USA
Party Affiliation: Republican
Occupation: Housewife

August G Lawrence
in the California, Voter Registrations, 1900-1968
Name: August G Lawrence
Residence Year: 1930
Street address: 934 Cornell ave
Residence Place: Alameda , California, USA
Party Affiliation: Democrat
Occupation: Printer

1926

Joseph Lawrence
in the California, Voter Registrations, 1900-1968
Name: Joseph Lawrence
Residence Year: 1926
Street address: 934 Cornell ave
Residence Place: Alameda , California, USA
Party Affiliation: Socialist
Occupation: Baker

"Housewife"
Mrs Rita Lawrence
in the California, Voter Registrations, 1900-1968
Name: Mrs Rita Lawrence
Residence Year: 1926
Street address: 934 Cornell ave
Residence Place: Alameda , California, USA
Party Affiliation: Democrat
Occupation: Housewife

1924

Joseph Lawrence
in the California, Voter Registrations, 1900-1968
Name: Joseph Lawrence
Residence Year: 1924
Street address: 934 Cornell av
Residence Place: Alameda , California, USA
Party Affiliation: Socialist
Occupation: Baker

August G Lawrence
in the California, Voter Registrations, 1900-1968
Name: August G Lawrence
Residence Year: 1924
Street address: 934 Cornell av
Residence Place: Alameda , California, USA
Party Affiliation: Democrat
Occupation: Printer

1922

Mrs Retta Lawrence (probably misspelled Rita)
in the California, Voter Registrations, 1900-1968
Name: Mrs Retta Lawrence
Residence Year: 1922
Street address: 934 Cornell St
Residence Place: Alameda , California, USA
Party Affiliation: Republican
Occupation: Housewife

In 1915
a JL lived in nr 921 Cornell :

Joe Lawrence
in the U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995
Name: Joe Lawrence
Residence Year: 1915
Street address: 921 Cornell ay
Residence Place: Oakland; Alameda; Berkeley, California, USA
Publication Title: Oakland, California, City Directory, 1915

August G Laurence
in the 1930 United States Federal Census
Name: August G Laurence
[August G Lawrence ]
Birth Year: abt 1895
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: California
Marital status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1930: Albany, Alameda, California , USA
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Cornell Avenue
House Number: 934
Dwelling Number: 241
Family Number: 251
Radio Set: No
Attended School: Yes
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father’s Birthplace: California
Mother’s Birthplace: Portugal
Able to Speak English: Yes
Household Members:
Name Age
August G Laurence 35
Lena Laurence 32
Joseph B Dartner 11
Leroy H Dartner 10

Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me :)

 
Posted : June 18, 2019 2:32 pm
(@cragle)
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We also have the Dolan family living at that address at the same time.

One thing that does interest me is that in 1969 there was a Harvey Lawrence working at Terry’s in Vallejo but his address is simply listed as Pleasant Hill. Also they only seem to be there for that one year.

 
Posted : June 21, 2019 12:04 pm
(@cragle)
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Small update, one brancd of the Dolan’s did end up living in the Vallejo Benecia area, Margaret Dolan married a Rex Underwood and lived in Vallejo. He dies in 1974 aged 64 but they had long since divorced. Was in Texas when signed for the army in 1940.

 
Posted : July 18, 2019 10:21 pm
ophion1031
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A possible new Pigeon Boy POI??? This is excellent news!!

A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….

 
Posted : July 22, 2019 2:57 pm
ophion1031
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Small update, one brancd of the Dolan’s did end up living in the Vallejo Benecia area, Margaret Dolan married a Rex Underwood and lived in Vallejo. He dies in 1974 aged 64 but they had long since divorced. Was in Texas when signed for the army in 1940.

Rick Marshall/Joe Don Dickey was stationed in or near El Paso probably around that same time.

A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….

 
Posted : July 23, 2019 7:01 am
ophion1031
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Shane and Tristan Vogt have found the identity of pigeon boy…

His name was Ronald Lee Gilstrap. They found an article about the incident, and the article gave his name, although they put Gilstrat instead of Gilstrap. They also got his age wrong. He was 11, not 9.

Gilstrap was born April 5, 1936 and died August 6, 2014 in Oakland. 

 

 

 

 

A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….

 
Posted : January 29, 2022 2:41 am
(@serya)
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Thank for the update, this has been a very interesting angle to the Zodiac saga indeed.

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Posted : February 1, 2022 8:04 am
ophion1031
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I have a good amount of info on Ronald Lee Gilstrap, but have been dealing with some computer issues. I’ll post it all once I am able to.

A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….

 
Posted : February 2, 2022 5:02 am
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