Sorry mods, obviously this “Russ Thompson” user has some Tom issues.
Mr. Voight has point blank refused to confirm that the CJB letters writer has been identified.
So, you’re welcome to disagree, but isn’t that sort of the responsibility of Riverside PD? This is their press release that we’re talking about. It is available to view on their official website. As much as I enjoy some good old fashioned infighting, it’s not clear to me what the issue is here. It’s a really bad press release, but to suggest that it’s, like, made up is not a reasonable assertion. Again, it’s on their official website, hosted under a .gov domain that belongs to the City of Riverside. I mean, this seems like pretty solid evidence that it’s an official statement, certainly if Occam’s razor is an acceptable standard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMmC0UAnj0
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The Riverside Police has confirmed that the three Bates Had To Die letters were written by someone not involved in the Bates or Zodiac cases. That’s a fact. Accept it.
Any suggestion that Tom Voigt invented this to sell merchandise is false. If anything, we should be thankful to Tom for breaking this news.
Why wouldn’t Tom break the news on his own site? If Morf had learned this, I have no doubt he would have announced it here.
So let’s end the baseless attacks against Tom and end the suggestion that this is some hoax or conspiracy or some misunderstanding. Are there more questions to be answered? Yes. Was the press release a grammatic catastrophe? Yes. But that doesn’t undermine the fact that the Bates had to die letters were faked.
Let. It. Go.
“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer
So, you’re welcome to disagree, but isn’t that sort of the responsibility of Riverside PD? This is their press release that we’re talking about. It is available to view on their official website.
Exactly. And their website is not claiming that the CJB letters were faked and they found the forger, correct? That is not at all he claim.
BTW your buddy Tommy is the one who started with the Diva behavior again.
That was too much!
I am assuming that if this person hoaxed the Bates letters as he claimed, he should be able to clear up the meaning behind the two Z-like characters. Or at least been asked for their meaning.
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
“I simply cannot accept that there are, on every story, two equal and logical sides to an argument.” Edward R. Murrow.
Thanks for the backup.
I’ve actually been asked to break Zodiac news several times over the years.
First time that I can recall was here: https://zodiackiller.com/CaseClosed.html (The story then went viral in the MSM and nobody gave me credit lol)
Also Sept. 1, 2011 and Nov. 9, 2009…both here: https://zodiackiller.com/Newscenter.html
Most recently the DNA updates. Probably forgetting some.
Regarding the Riverside news, I am waiting for them to hopefully reply with some clarity to a few issues regarding the presser.
And their website is not claiming that the CJB letters were faked and they found the forger, correct?
That is actually what it says. Wow, throwing accusations and you haven’t bothered to read. FFS
The Riverside Police has confirmed that the three Bates Had To Die letters were written by someone not involved in the Bates or Zodiac cases. That’s a fact.
That is not at all what they confirmed. RPD (allegedly) confirmed that they identified someone who claims to have written the letters. A claim made apparently in a 2016 letter somewhere.
Some guy making that claim is not proof he did it. Do you require no more evidence than some disturbed fellow claiming he is the hoaxer? I certainly would like proof of that, not anyone’s promise.
That was too much!
So if I write a letter to an investigator and claim to be Zodiac, and he traces that letter to me, I am indeed the Zodiac? Case closed?
Waaaaay more corroboration is required or I have a bridge to sell you.
That was too much!
How can I block this guy?
And the provenance of this letter being 2016 doesn’t seem fishy to anyone’s critical ears? Late evidence that magically transforms everything?
I need much more convincing, such as DNA/fingerprint from original CJB letter that matches this new person. Or new person is able to convincingly demonstrate, not just make the claim, that s/he hoaxed the CJB letters. My guess is the person’s story will fall apart.
I’d love to be wrong. Prove it. This should be a big feather in the cap of a PD that still claims Zodiac had nothing to do with it. Maybe they are holding for a big, dramatic announcement? Other than that blog….
That was too much!
ow can I block this guy?
That was too much!
Just to be clear, when someone enquires directly to RPD explaining that a certain individual is claiming that he has the identity of the CJB crime letters writer, and one would like their elaboration on his claims since they clearly gave the info to him, RPD are going to say what a correct genius this individual is, right?
RPD will say yes that individual is our go to guy always, and if he said it we said it! We back him completely. ANd in this case he has 100% correct information! That is why we went to him!
That’s what one should expect to hear from the RPD, then, after making such an enquiry.
They have the individual’s records on file, so they know who he is or can easily find out.
That was too much!
So if I write a letter to an investigator and claim to be Zodiac, and he traces that letter to me, I am indeed the Zodiac?
What? No, that isn’t what happened. Again, crappy writing has made this issue ambiguous, but what you’re saying is predicated on the notion that the Zodiac Killer was responsible for CJB, which isn’t what Riverside PD said in their press release.
In the press release, they said that they traced the author of the 2016 letter using DNA found on the stamp of said letter. Then they found him and conducted a series of interviews. That’s cop speech for ‘We interrogated him.’ While it is lexically and grammatically confusing, it is a reasonable inference that it was in the course of these interrogations that the person they found using the DNA confessed to writing the 2016 letter.
The 2016 letter contained an apology for writing the hand-written letters that were sent out in 1967, presumably the three nearly identical ones that said ‘Bates/She Had To Die, There Will Be More.’
As for the type-written ‘Confession letter’, your guess is as good as mine, thanks to the ambiguity inherent to the wording of the press release, but given the announcement that the Riverside investigation has been procedurally divested from the Zodiac investigation, it seems fairly likely that Riverside PD considers all correspondence related to the Riverside case to be fraudulent. In other words, not only is the author of the Riverside letters not considered to be the killer of CJB, but he is also not considered to be a suspect in the Zodiac case, which is an admission they only need to make because the CJB murder has been historically and speculatively associated with Zodiac. The primary reason for that association was the letters. Again, those letters are now, according to Riverside PD, considered to be fake.
