Was it common knowledge at her college that those houses near the library were empty? If not, maybe after she discovered that her car wouldn’t start, she walked to those houses to ask to use the phone.
I think it would be almost impossible for her to be unaware those houses were vacant.
Those houses were being used by the collage for various things such as the library annex and there was a sign in
front of the house stating such, also the houses would not have had any lights on inside or outside and no TV’s
or radios playing no air conditioner’s running and no cars parked in the driveway’s.
Was it common knowledge at her college that those houses near the library were empty? If not, maybe after she discovered that her car wouldn’t start, she walked to those houses to ask to use the phone.
I think it would be almost impossible for her to be unaware those houses were vacant.
Those houses were being used by the collage for various things such as the library annex and there was a sign in
front of the house stating such, also the houses would not have had any lights on inside or outside and no TV’s
or radios playing no air conditioner’s running and no cars parked in the driveway’s.
So it seems that the only reason she might think she could call from one of those houses would be if the person with her said he could unlock the door to one of them. If that makes sense, that person would probably have to be familiar to her, and also logically (to her way of thinking) be able to enter.
I really hate to fixate on a POI but Ross always seems the logical guy with CJB.
I think it’s a strong possibility Cheri Jo thought she was going to use the phone in one of those vacant
houses, So the assailant must have been an employee or claimed to be an employee of RCC, So Ross
obviously would have to be considered a reasonable POI whether Z killed Cheri or not.
I think it’s a strong possibility Cheri Jo thought she was going to use the phone in one of those vacant
houses, So the assailant must have been an employee or claimed to be an employee of RCC, So Ross
obviously would have to be considered a reasonable POI whether Z killed Cheri or not.
I think it’s best to examine CJB’s murder without assuming it’s Z. If CJB can be solved, then we can backtrack to see if her killer could’ve been Z.
My little theory is that Ross had a fantasy of a double wedding – Tim and Bonnie, plus CJB (Bonnie’s close friend) and him. He disables CJB’s car as a ruse to get her to go into one of those houses alone with him, as she nears the house, she gets nervous and resists, and it escalates from there.
But there is still the mystery of the missing time between her leaving the library around 6:15 until the attack 3 hours later.
Some of the houses, specifically Harvard house which is the white building next to where was found, was used as an overfollow to accommodate books as the Library had become too small. They could be accessed during weekdays but were closed on the weekends.
Some of the houses, specifically Harvard house which is the white building next to where was found, was used as an overfollow to accommodate books as the Library had become too small. They could be accessed during weekdays but were closed on the weekends.
Would there have been a working telephone in there, or reason for Cheri to think there might be?
Some of the houses, specifically Harvard house which is the white building next to where was found, was used as an overfollow to accommodate books as the Library had become too small. They could be accessed during weekdays but were closed on the weekends.
Would there have been a working telephone in there, or reason for Cheri to think there might be?
The house at 3680 Terracina was being used as the library annex and was open for use by the students at certain
times so they had to have had library employees there as well so I would think it’s highly likely there was a phone
in that house.
I think what they MAY have done was to wire the home’s phone line into the Quadrangle buildings phone
system that way RCC wouldn’t have to pay for an additional line, IF they did do something like this then it’s possible
that all or some of the vacant houses could have had a phone without additional cost to the collage.
Some of the houses, specifically Harvard house which is the white building next to where was found, was used as an overfollow to accommodate books as the Library had become too small. They could be accessed during weekdays but were closed on the weekends.
Would there have been a working telephone in there, or reason for Cheri to think there might be?
The house at 3680 Terracina was being used as the library annex and was open for use by the students at certain
times so they had to have had library employees there as well so I would think it’s highly likely there was a phone
in that house.I think what they MAY have done was to wire the home’s phone line into the Quadrangle buildings phone
system that way RCC wouldn’t have to pay for an additional line, IF they did do something like this then it’s possible
that all or some of the vacant houses could have had a phone without additional cost to the collage.
Assuming that house would’ve been locked at the time Cheri was heading towards it, she would’ve likely only gone down that alley with someone she knew, or believed, had a key to open it up. So I would think the list of suspects might logically be limited to people who would’ve had such a key. I know that isn’t a brilliant, new idea, but it seems a more practical starting point than going after people with the initials of the desktop poem, for instance.
Do we know the list of library workers, custodians, etc. who would’ve had keys to those houses, or is there any way after all these years to build such a list?
House in question
They had recently moved 2700 -2800 books into that Harvard annex. Bailey said Ross had a job writing the cataloguing information on the spines. Did the cataloguing information on those books need to be changed? Did he do it there? Seems like the appropriate place. Many were periodicals to boot so he would’ve been surrounded by newspapers.
I’ve also thought that perhaps a book she needed was in that building? Or was returning a book/magazine to that building?
I’d love to know if they thoroughly searched the Harvard annex house that day.
I apologize if this has been discussed at some point, but my suspicion may well be that her car didn’t start, so she left her books with the window open and key in ignition (who can steal it if it won’t start?), walked thru the alley and was attacked. Most of you know much more about this Cheri Bates than I do, but from a logical perspective it’s more likely to me than any other scenario.
Which isn’t to say when I think hard about it I don’t see another scenario, but there you go.
They had recently moved 2700 -2800 books into that Harvard annex. Bailey said Ross had a job writing the cataloguing information on the spines. Did the cataloguing information on those books need to be changed? Did he do it there? Seems like the appropriate place. Many were periodicals to boot so he would’ve been surrounded by newspapers.
I’ve also thought that perhaps a book she needed was in that building? Or was returning a book/magazine to that building?
I’d love to know if they thoroughly searched the Harvard annex house that day.
If she needed something from that building, I would think she would’ve gotten it around 6:15, when she got what she needed from the library, and the annex would’ve been more likely to have been open. So I can’t see a timeline where she gets her materials from the library, then goes somewhere for 3 hours, then, before trying to start her car, decides she needs something from the locked annex.
But suppose she got her books from the library, went to the annex for a quiet place to study, and was observed by someone working there. After a couple hours that person tells Cheri he’s done working and she should lock up when she’s done, then he leaves the annex, disables her car and waits. She leaves the annex, locks the door, car won’t start, but the guy is still around and offers to help by leading her back to the annex to call. Maybe he’s a friend, or maybe since she’s just been with him as he was working in the house she figures she can trust him. She leaves her books in the car with window rolled down because it’s hot, the car isn’t going anywhere, and she’ll be back in 5 minutes she thinks.
They had recently moved 2700 -2800 books into that Harvard annex. Bailey said Ross had a job writing the cataloguing information on the spines. Did the cataloguing information on those books need to be changed? Did he do it there? Seems like the appropriate place. Many were periodicals to boot so he would’ve been surrounded by newspapers.
I’ve also thought that perhaps a book she needed was in that building? Or was returning a book/magazine to that building?
I’d love to know if they thoroughly searched the Harvard annex house that day.
If she needed something from that building, I would think she would’ve gotten it around 6:15, when she got what she needed from the library, and the annex would’ve been more likely to have been open. So I can’t see a timeline where she gets her materials from the library, then goes somewhere for 3 hours, then, before trying to start her car, decides she needs something from the locked annex.
But suppose she got her books from the library, went to the annex for a quiet place to study, and was observed by someone working there. After a couple hours that person tells Cheri he’s done working and she should lock up when she’s done, then he leaves the annex, disables her car and waits. She leaves the annex, locks the door, car won’t start, but the guy is still around and offers to help by leading her back to the annex to call. Maybe he’s a friend, or maybe since she’s just been with him as he was working in the house she figures she can trust him. She leaves her books in the car with window rolled down because it’s hot, the car isn’t going anywhere, and she’ll be back in 5 minutes she thinks.
It was closed at weekends.
It was closed at weekends.
So, do you think that means Cheri going into the alley and being killed near the annex probably had nothing to do with the possibility of entering it? I’m struggling to come up with a plausible scenario why she would willingly go there that late.
It was closed at weekends.
So, do you think that means Cheri going into the alley and being killed near the annex probably had nothing to do with the possibility of entering it? I’m struggling to come up with a plausible scenario why she would willingly go there that late.
I struggle with that and reconciling it with the state of her car. I have a hard time believing if she was getting a ride she would leave her keys in the ignition. You’d take your keys with you if you were leaving the area. You would take your purse,
however, cause you aren’t gonna just leave that to get snatched by some random person walking by. To me, either she was abducted or she thought she would be back shortly.
If she was was abducted, it’s weird to me he would pick that spot to attack her when there were so many more hidden spots at hand and there is no apparent struggle before that spot.
That’s why the “using a phone at the Harvard annex” looks plausible to me. There is nowhere else to go
It’s a strange scenario. I don’t know quite what to make of it.
