Ross Sullivan died September 1977.

Ok so I guess he had not written even one of those letters..it might therefore rule him out if only one of those three letters is real (e.g. DNA).

QT

Ross Sullivan died September 1977.

Ok so I guess he had not written even one of those letters..it might therefore rule him out if only one of those three letters is real (e.g. DNA).

QT

The key word…’IF‘. I don’t think any of the 78 letters are real personally. You mentioned the ‘ATKIN’ (actually ATKID)looking like Zodiac’s writing in the Atlanta letter, that writing is the writing of a police investigator. ATKID, was abbreviation for Atlanta Child murders

If zodiac did indeed write that poem, I can’t see him being stupid enough to write his initials. It’s possible I suppose. I think zodiac was more lucky than smart. To me it seems more likely that rh stands for red herring, or he’s alluding to blood type, seeing as how blood is so prominent in the poem.

If zodiac did indeed write that poem, I can’t see him being stupid enough to write his initials. It’s possible I suppose. I think zodiac was more lucky than smart. To me it seems more likely that rh stands for red herring, or he’s alluding to blood type, seeing as how blood is so prominent in the poem.

If he did it before he ever killed anybody, or wrote any letters, he may not have a reason to hide his initials, afterall, it was only pure luck the desk was found, reported, and linked to Bates/Zodiac

Speaking about that, I know it’s a longshot but was the janitor who found the poem checked out? What about the groundskeeper who found Cheri Jo? The fact that Cheri Jo walked with her killer on campus after hours suggests that maybe it was someone who lived or worked on campus after hours. You could be right Morf, and it definitely doesn’t hurt checking out people who have those initials. I just find it coincidental that rh is a blood type and blood is the major image in the poem.

I don’t think rh is a blood type per se. It is part of a blood type; a factor in a blood type.

People have various blood types such as A, B, AB and O and then the RH FACTOR is either negative or positive.

Speaking about that, I know it’s a longshot but was the janitor who found the poem checked out? What about the groundskeeper who found Cheri Jo? The fact that Cheri Jo walked with her killer on campus after hours suggests that maybe it was someone who lived or worked on campus after hours. You could be right Morf, and it definitely doesn’t hurt checking out people who have those initials. I just find it coincidental that rh is a blood type and blood is the major image in the poem.

The man’s name that found the desk is unknown to the public to the best of my knowledge. The man that found Cheri’s body was an old black man

Ok, thanks. Just checking every avenue.

Another reson why I asked about janitors working at Riverside at the time is because I find there is a preoccupation with cleaning in that desktop poem. I could be taking it too literally, but given that a janitor would have after hours access, and would be alone, I thought it might be worth looking into. The university I went to hired mostly students for janitorial work. I wonder if this was the case at Riverside.

I bring up tone a lot when it comes to the writings, because I think tone is very telling when it comes to the any writer. It is very tied into his/her idiosyncrasies, and this is especially true for Z. A line like "oh well, it was red anyway" smacks of the glib, morbid sarcasm that permeated Z’s style.

I bring up tone a lot when it comes to the writings, because I think tone is very telling when it comes to the any writer. It is very tied into his/her idiosyncrasies, and this is especially true for Z. A line like "oh well, it was red anyway" smacks of the glib, morbid sarcasm that permeated Z’s style.

I have to disagree. The poem is a prime example of the beat style poetry that was prominent in the 60’s – especially in California.
It maybe not reflect the depth or insight that some of the masters of beatnik poetry accomplished, but it’s certainly in that vien. I don’t feel like it had anything to do with z or CB.

I bring up tone a lot when it comes to the writings, because I think tone is very telling when it comes to the any writer. It is very tied into his/her idiosyncrasies, and this is especially true for Z. A line like "oh well, it was red anyway" smacks of the glib, morbid sarcasm that permeated Z’s style.

I have to disagree. The poem is a prime example of the beat style poetry that was prominent in the 60’s – especially in California.
It maybe not reflect the depth or insight that some of the masters of beatnik poetry accomplished, but it’s certainly in that vien. I don’t feel like it had anything to do with z or CB.

No offense Talon, but I’m not overly concerned that you disagree. Youd have to be blind not to see the similarities in writing style and handwriting. You seem to have your mind made up irrelevant of what the evidence points to. There’s nothing in that poem that resembles the so-called masters of beat poems. I’ve read more Ginsberg, Burroughs, and Kerouac in my day than I care to admit, and none of them used that sort of tone. Just because a poem is written in a loose, free way does not make it Beat. Id ask you to point out why or where you see a beatnic vien, but you never do seem to want to back anything you say up. Anyone back then who got as far as 1st year college English Lit, would know how to write a poem like that.

like to know what other poems were found..id bet they have another 1 or 2 and only released the known poem to the publik as they were trying to see if anybody recognized the style of the poem and the handwriting..the poem to me reads high skol sophmorish level work..nutin really stands out..CJB confuses me in regards to Z..was Z a student, employee or was CJB just an easy target..part of me says CJB did not die at the hands of Z..but it is plausible..was CJB a swimmer?..may be she was coached by ALA

like to know what other poems were found..id bet they have another 1 or 2 and only released the known poem to the publik as they were trying to see if anybody recognized the style of the poem and the handwriting..the poem to me reads high skol sophmorish level work..nutin really stands out..CJB confuses me in regards to Z..was Z a student, employee or was CJB just an easy target..part of me says CJB did not die at the hands of Z..but it is plausible..was CJB a swimmer?..may be she was coached by ALA

There’s nothing at all that remotely suggests that ALA had any ties to Riverside and to Bates specifically, other than possibly going to a race there at some point

If Z was the Author of the desktop poem, and really had the initials, RH, that leads me to believe he was likely around Cheri’s age. Just in case, I checked every male with those initials that was born between 1944 & 1948 in Riverside county, and background checked every single one. There are a couple with possible ties to Vallejo area, but I am still trying to verify info, but mostly, none of the RH people born in Riverside are directly connected to Vallejo area. If RH was really Zodiac’s initials, I doubt he was born in Riverside County.

RH could have been from anywhere, ie. Orange County which is adjacent to Riverside.

If RH was a student, he probably be more likely to live in the immediate area but not so if he was there for work or some other reason. He could have had a relative living in Riverside and just been visiting, for example.

I think Cheri could have met her murderer through her employment at the bank and that he could have been a customer who didn’t even have an account there. IIRC, it was much easier to just walk into any bank back then and cash a check than it would be today.