Maybe it can help: https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/pe/obituary.aspx?n=harry-brooks-redifer&pid=2035772

Does anybody have copies of the RCC yearbooks from 1960-65? I haven’t been able to find them online anywhere. I’m particularly interested in someone with the last initial of H.

I believe that the "r" is not the letter originally intended to be written. If one looks closely, it appears darker than the others, as if it is an attempt to change it at the last second.

Anybody have thoughts about that?

The March 13th 1971 Los Angeles letter has almost an identical lower case "r" to the Riverside desktop poem. He therefore fails to capitalize Riverside. Take this over to the desktop and we get Rh, if the desktop is referring to Riverside.
The Zodiac Killer finished many of his communications with the running victim total. The Dripping Pen card gave us the time, in the form of a month, and the total. The Bus Bomb letter stated "up to the end of Oct I have killed 7 people."
The July 31st 1969 San Francisco Chronicle letter warned us of future murders "If you do not print this cipher by the afternoon of Fry.1st of Aug 69, I will go on a kill ram-Page Fry. night." The Halloween card is also believed by many to be a future threat towards Paul Avery.
What if we apply the same model to the Riverside Desktop Poem, where he signs off the poem with "Just wait till next time. rh." The Riverside Desktop Poem was discovered in the December of 1966. But it might very well have been written prior to the murder of Cheri Jo Bates on October 30th 1966, and the warning of "Just wait till next time. rh." was referring to the time and place of his next murder. Remember, the author of the Confession letter had suggested he was trying to lure Cheri Jo Bates into his vehicle. This may possibly indicate he had planned to murder Cheri Jo Bates later than the believed 10.30 pm, when screams emanated from the alleyway, likely on Halloween Day itself, but something clearly had resulted in the unplanned struggle in the alleyway and her ‘premature’ murder from the perspective of the killer. Had he achieved his objective in luring the young woman into his vehicle, the likely prediction of the Riverside Desktop Poem would have come true. "Just wait till next time. riverside, halloween."

I’m just wondering (apropos of nothing), is the poem carved into the desk or merely written upon the desk? I’ve seen it said both ways. I don’t know that it makes much of difference, but I’m interested. It looks written in pen, but the majority of the time I read that it was carved.

This is something I’ve planned to look into a little more but haven’t had the chance yet…lots of dates and blanks to be filled in… So, if anyone gets bored and wants to explore..here’s you a little something.

In researching several months ago, I found an RH…Robinson Crusoe Huff, Jr. from Kentucky, who had lived in Sunnymeade, Ca..which is about 15 minutes from Riverside, I think. So far, I haven’t found any connections to the Bay area. He is now deceased. I don’t know where he was in 1966. Need help with that to see if he was in the area. He was in the Sunnymeade/Riverside area in 1974, however. He was retired from the Air Force (B-29, B-50, B-52 gunner).

In 1974, at the age of 41, he was accused of killing a University of California Riverside student. I’ve tried getting the court records online but have been unsuccessful, but was able to find several newspaper articles in the archive. The student he killed was 23-year-old David L. Cole, a physics major. He told police that he shot David when they took a ride in David’s car, and David had told Huff to stay away from his girlfriend, 19-year-old Lorraine Baldwin, a Riverside City College student. I think it was implied from that articles that I’ve found so far that Huff had claimed that he was seeing Cole’s young girlfriend. Records I have found show that Huff was married..I need to check exact dates.

A little more info on Huff. He’d been a Circle K manager but was working only on the weekends at the time of Cole’s murder since going back to school at Riverside City College as a part-time student. (Some sources say Riverside City College, at least once, I believe stated UCR student). I don’t know where my notes are on this since I’m in the middle of moving..would really like to confirm my memory..but it seems that I found a trail leading to March Air Force Base with him…maybe 22nd Bombardment wing. If memory serves me correctly, he was sentenced to 3 years for voluntary manslaughter. Indicted in ’75? Cole’s body wasn’t found until 1976, 17 months after the murder, by two 12-year-old boys. The body was found near Big Pines Ranger Station. The body was covered with a partial layer of rocks and snow.

I’ll get my notes together and post links, etc., soon…but in the meantime, if anyone would like to help out..please do. I don’t know if he was THE RH..and don’t know if RH was CJB killer and don’t know if CJB killer was Z…shew..but here’s an RH, who was in Air Force, who had a RCC connection and killed a young man over a young girl. Worth looking into, perhaps…IF Huff can be placed in the area in 1966.

PS: Is Riverside City College and Riverside Community College same place?

Yes, originally it was called Riverside City College and in the 1970s it was renamed Riverside Community College then in the
2000s was renamed back to the original title Riverside City College.

Thank you! I’d long thought that they were both the same school just by verifying dates but when I saw it switched back yet again, I began to wonder! lol

I read in the Tiger Times school newspaper, 1966 was the year they were celebrating the 50th year for the collage.

I wonder if Zodiac knew that, he has been known to be active during anniversary’s.

The desk poem was done with a ball point pen , it was carved into the under side of the desk top. It was believed that it was done while the desk was upside down.
It would have been harder to do that on the top side because of the varnish , is my guess?

I do believe that the person who wrote the letters was Cheri Jo’s killer. According to the handwriting experts, the person who wrote those letters was the Zodiac.

That’s my take on it as well, there are just too many similarity’s for it all to be a coincidence.

I recently read that Dave Toschi went to Riverside in the 70s to look at the desk top poem and he said when you see
it closeup it’s obvious it was written by Zodiac.

That’s my take on it as well, there are just too many similarity’s for it all to be a coincidence.

I recently read that Dave Toschi went to Riverside in the 70s to look at the desk top poem and he said when you see
it closeup it’s obvious it was written by Zodiac.

Thank you monarch, I was looking through some old posts and found one from Tom V that I had missed. He brought up the idea that the letters RH = 26 = Z .

Last yr Darlene’s sister called me to tell me she started getting more calls again from out suspect. She said that he had called 25 times asking if I was at her home? While she was talking to me she received one more ,making the number of calls 26.
She didn’t think about that number, but I sure did, so typical of what he enjoys doing. How he knew I was out of town at that time, I have no idea? I did not announce it to anyone.
I would like to get a DNA test on the tiny Catholic Bible that was put in my car with the costume and see if CJB’s DNA is on it?

Still confusion re desk bottom. I doubt someone would have turned a desk upside down in a library to write on its bottom. Anyone know if the desk was a folding type?

The pictures that I have seen of the desks , they looked like the kind I had and those did not fold, you just slide into them. Regardless if it did fold or not ,it was probably done in that storage room, away from anyone walking in on him.
My guess as to how it was possible for someone to write all of that without being seen? Is that it was already in the storage room because of the construction work being done at that time.
In the storage room that desk was turned upside down, that was how the writing was spotted.

Again it is only speculation, but anyone who was there working construction ,or a night janitor would have access to that room. The person who wrote it ,wanted it to be seen and left it upside down.
He would have waited for everyone to go home, so he could do his writing.

If he was one of the workers, he could stay behind putting his equipment away and washing up. I wonder if the police questioned the person who found it?

The pictures that I have seen of the desks , they looked like the kind I had and those did not fold, you just slide into them. Regardless if it did fold or not ,it was probably done in that storage room, away from anyone walking in on him.
My guess as to how it was possible for someone to write all of that without being seen? Is that it was already in the storage room because of the construction work being done at that time.
In the storage room that desk was turned upside down, that was how the writing was spotted.

Again it is only speculation, but anyone who was there working construction ,or a night janitor would have access to that room. The person who wrote it ,wanted it to be seen and left it upside down.
He would have waited for everyone to go home, so he could do his writing.

If he was one of the workers, he could stay behind putting his equipment away and washing up. I wonder if the police questioned the person who found it?

If the desk/desktop poem was found in the library storage room that would point strongly to Ross Sullivan, being an employee
of the RCC library he would have had access to the library storage room and therefore the opportunity and privacy to write it.

The pictures that I have seen of the desks , they looked like the kind I had and those did not fold, you just slide into them. Regardless if it did fold or not ,it was probably done in that storage room, away from anyone walking in on him.
My guess as to how it was possible for someone to write all of that without being seen? Is that it was already in the storage room because of the construction work being done at that time.
In the storage room that desk was turned upside down, that was how the writing was spotted.

Again it is only speculation, but anyone who was there working construction ,or a night janitor would have access to that room. The person who wrote it ,wanted it to be seen and left it upside down.
He would have waited for everyone to go home, so he could do his writing.

If he was one of the workers, he could stay behind putting his equipment away and washing up. I wonder if the police questioned the person who found it?

If the desk/desktop poem was found in the library storage room that would point strongly to Ross Sullivan, being an employee
of the RCC library he would have had access to the library storage room and therefore the opportunity and privacy to write it.

I thought Ross just hung out at the library , I didn’t remember he worked there? Even if he did work there, his handwriting is not a match to Zodiac’s, so he couldn’t be the person who wrote that poem. As large as Ross was, I doubt there would have much of a struggle for him to be her killer.

Ross worked at the library as an assistant.

Who says ross handwriting isnt a match to zodiacs? *edit – i mean is there something substantial to that starement? As far as im aware there is not…

Seems if you look at the librarians letter, the desk poem, cjb murder, the early cjb taunt letter and the mention of ‘riverside activity’ in later zodiac letters there is enough reason to believe there is a link and to understand that the poem is important and therefore so is understanding the rh signature meaning.. ? So who could have had access to the storage to pen-etch the poem into the desk? An employee more than a student? Possibly.

Suggest the rh is a personal sign off with meaning only to the author. Clearly it would be known defacing desks was a bold move and got you in trouble… but that was just part of the thrill, especially if youre becoming move deviously minded.