Manalli seemed to have an intellect and creativity that could have been behind the Zodiac persona. His possible sketch of Kim Allen is suspect and would logically connect him to the other Santa Rosa murders, thereby making him a potential serial killer in at least one locality. Handwriting isn’t a bad match either. However, Manalli isn’t a great match to the witness descriptions of Zodiac.

Didn’t he teach arts? I forget thanks? If he did plays and stuff maybe he had access to costumes props and make up?

The mikado90, just curious to what you think of manalli and his writing vs the zodiac correspondence? I mean the style/wording/phrases used/, the things Fred wrote about ie rape/torture/murder the double dots above “I” (how rare is that) his love of poetry and not forgetting he was a creative writing instructor who also loved writing to the paper and had a book published post humously. I’m shocked really how many people don’t look more in Fred’s direction as the letter writer in the zodiac crimes

I personally think it’s close, but not a match. More importantly for me is that he doesn’t fit the description of the killer as described by several witnesses. There are lots of problems with introducing one (or multiple) accomplices; especially that there is no evidence for this. Manalli’s handwriting bearing some similarities to the Zodiac is not indicative of a multi perpetrator theory. If you follow the other evidence it points away from Manalli.

<Call me close-minded, but I choose to follow the hard evidence and ask critical questions in direct relation to that: why did Z place the Blue Rock Springs call roughly 40 minutes after the attack when it was only a 13 minute drive to that payphone?>

If it was Allen he could have stopped home first. His house was between BRS and the phone booth.

<Call me close-minded, but I choose to follow the hard evidence and ask critical questions in direct relation to that: why did Z place the Blue Rock Springs call roughly 40 minutes after the attack when it was only a 13 minute drive to that payphone?>

If it was Allen he could have stopped home first. His house was between BRS and the phone booth.

See I never knew the call was much later… Did he wait for the cops to all get a police call and leave the station (wasn’t he accross the st)? Thanks.

I would assume that the killer probably took off his costume before driving. That would take a few minutes. Maybe he drove somewhere and stashed it away where he knew it would be safe, rather than keeping it in his car? Although, just picturing it in my head, it would be kinda funny to see someone driving around with that costume on. But dropping off the costume and knife before placing the call would make sense.

I would assume that the killer probably took off his costume before driving. That would take a few minutes. Maybe he drove somewhere and stashed it away where he knew it would be safe, rather than keeping it in his car? Although, just picturing it in my head, it would be kinda funny to see someone driving around with that costume on. But dropping off the costume and knife before placing the call would make sense.

Weren’t above talking about Blue Rock ?

I would assume that the killer probably took off his costume before driving. That would take a few minutes. Maybe he drove somewhere and stashed it away where he knew it would be safe, rather than keeping it in his car? Although, just picturing it in my head, it would be kinda funny to see someone driving around with that costume on. But dropping off the costume and knife before placing the call would make sense.

Weren’t above talking about Blue Rock ?

Oops. You’re right. I was thinking Berryessa for some reason.

<Call me close-minded, but I choose to follow the hard evidence and ask critical questions in direct relation to that: why did Z place the Blue Rock Springs call roughly 40 minutes after the attack when it was only a 13 minute drive to that payphone?>

If it was Allen he could have stopped home first. His house was between BRS and the phone booth.

See I never knew the call was much later… Did he wait for the cops to all get a police call and leave the station (wasn’t he accross the st)? Thanks.

No, he was actually a few blocks down from the police office; on the corner of Springs Rd and Tuolumne where Sylvia’s Union Gas station used to be. One option could be that he didn’t take Columbus Parkway, Springs Road etc. directly into Vallejo but drove via Lake Herman Road and Benicia and used this possible detour to avoid police coming towards him from Vallejo (remember the kids who discovered Michael and Darlene saw a car speeding of on the Lake Herman Rd in the direction of Benicia). The timings of this would roughly explain the missing time. Or he lived closer to the payphone and disposed of his weapon and car and walked there? All possible.

Personally (theoretically speaking of course) if I was to commit this attack I would going the long way around as opposed to straight to the pay phone, which let’s be honest, was slap bang in the middle of the hornets nest. Approaching it from the west would not draw attention but somebody heading from the crime scene possibly would. Especially when the phone location was somewhere where I could see police cars leaving the station and thus easily assessing the situation and possible risk.

Always fun to invent scenarios, but ALA stopping at home and ditching the weapon is a simple one.

Personally (theoretically speaking of course) if I was to commit this attack I would going the long way around as opposed to straight to the pay phone, which let’s be honest, was slap bang in the middle of the hornets nest.

Yup, he’s not going to drive straight to that area from the crime scene unless he’s stupid or nuts.

Personally (theoretically speaking of course) if I was to commit this attack I would going the long way around as opposed to straight to the pay phone, which let’s be honest, was slap bang in the middle of the hornets nest.

Yup, he’s not going to drive straight to that area from the crime scene unless he’s stupid or nuts.

I think it’s very plausible that he went via Lake Herman Road, Reservoir Rd and then the highway back to Vallejo. Particularly in conjuncture with the kids sighting of a car speeding off on the Lake Herman Rd.

Personally (theoretically speaking of course) if I was to commit this attack I would going the long way around as opposed to straight to the pay phone, which let’s be honest, was slap bang in the middle of the hornets nest.

Yup, he’s not going to drive straight to that area from the crime scene unless he’s stupid or nuts.

I think it’s very plausible that he went via Lake Herman Road, Reservoir Rd and then the highway back to Vallejo. Particularly in conjuncture with the kids sighting of a car speeding off on the Lake Herman Rd.

and all this keeps in with the theory he did use the other road and that’s why the cops didn’t run into him? Or am I mixing things up? Thanks. This guy had a lucky horseshoe up his arse.