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morf13
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Z could have left a paper note at the scene, but would be more shocking, a paper note, or a Scoreboard on the side of the Victim’s own vehicle?

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Posted : June 14, 2015 4:04 am
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^ additionally a paper note could blow away or become soiled ruining the message/calling card. Gotta put it on something that isn’t easily destroyed or lost.

 
Posted : June 14, 2015 5:07 am
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When I spoke to KQ, he agreed that "sla" meant "kill" but he haggled over the little "a" with the "o" over it. He didn’t get into a debate about "strike", "smite" or anything else. So he and Z seem to have had the same misconceptions. Funny that.

Mike

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Posted : June 15, 2015 3:26 am
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Not sure what sort of haggling it was, Mike – but if he mentioned a little "o" over the "a" he was talking about the modern Norwegian spelling of the word.

Old Norse: Slá
Modern: Slå

FWIW

 
Posted : June 15, 2015 11:17 am
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So, again, if that is true, in a double-blind-I-am-a-space-alien-with-no prejudice kind of way, that a mere weighing of the circumstantial evidence, NOBODY is gonna win that but one big fat dead child molester and certified creepy bastard Arthur Leigh Allen. No way does the handful of facts you have presented as circumstantial evidence win against the pile against ALA. Does that mean that I think that you are full of it? No. I do not. Do I believe 100 percent that ALA did it? Nope. No way. There are some irreconcilables there that I can’t jump over, and I am not finished looking. And you shouldn’t be either.

It’s true that ALA is the king of the circumstantial connections to the case but he’s also completely ruled out by the Big Four: physical description, DNA, handwriting and fingerprints. The lack of any resemblance to the PH sketch is pretty much fatal to ALA being Z and Graysmith’s equivocations on that were shameful imo.

But a lot of circumstantial evidence is still a great reason to investigate someone! There was definitely enough there to take a look at KQ, but the DNA doesn’t match, the handwriting doesn’t match, he’s too thin. I just don’t see a reason to keep looking at him.

The more digging you do, you’ll find that they’re not really the Big Four. There is a lot of conflicting opinions on the reliability of any of those four with regards to it ruling a suspect out.

 
Posted : June 15, 2015 3:24 pm
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So, again, if that is true, in a double-blind-I-am-a-space-alien-with-no prejudice kind of way, that a mere weighing of the circumstantial evidence, NOBODY is gonna win that but one big fat dead child molester and certified creepy bastard Arthur Leigh Allen. No way does the handful of facts you have presented as circumstantial evidence win against the pile against ALA. Does that mean that I think that you are full of it? No. I do not. Do I believe 100 percent that ALA did it? Nope. No way. There are some irreconcilables there that I can’t jump over, and I am not finished looking. And you shouldn’t be either.

It’s true that ALA is the king of the circumstantial connections to the case but he’s also completely ruled out by the Big Four: physical description, DNA, handwriting and fingerprints. The lack of any resemblance to the PH sketch is pretty much fatal to ALA being Z and Graysmith’s equivocations on that were shameful imo.

But a lot of circumstantial evidence is still a great reason to investigate someone! There was definitely enough there to take a look at KQ, but the DNA doesn’t match, the handwriting doesn’t match, he’s too thin. I just don’t see a reason to keep looking at him.

The more digging you do, you’ll find that they’re not really the Big Four. There is a lot of conflicting opinions on the reliability of any of those four with regards to it ruling a suspect out.

Yeah, I have often gotten into black moods thinking of all these suspects being discounted on the basis of possibly-questionable evidence. And as sick as this sounds if Z had only had a penchant for rape we probably wouldn’t even have a forum to have a conversation on about these subjects, being that the freaking case would have been solved a long time ago.

 
Posted : June 18, 2015 11:52 am
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I have to ask, point blank, Mike, Do you have Hand Printing of Mr.X??? If so, can we see it?

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Posted : June 18, 2015 6:52 pm
morf13
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I have to ask, point blank, Mike, Do you have Hand Printing of Mr.X??? If so, can we see it?

Bueller, Bueller……Any response to this??

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

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http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : June 19, 2015 7:17 pm
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2 years after the disappearance of Donna Lass and Charles Hollingsworth this man who worked for a real estate company in South Lake Tahoe disappeared. Could it have been theorized he was a Z victim and might be connected to this "deep real estate" angle? Sorry if it has already been brought up.

http://www.nampn.org/cases/strehle_richard.html
1973: South Lake Tahoe – "Richard Edward Strehle, a 26 year old realtor with Maloney Realty, disappeared on July 5th, 1973. He was described, by a coworker, as quiet and dependable and was unlikely to be irresponsible.
He was last seen on the evening of July 5th, 1973 near his room (studio apartment) which was located at 1211 Julie Lane, by the husband of his landlady. The same coworker stated that Strehle had been mildly depressed due to his girlfriend leaving and moving back to Colorado."

 
Posted : June 23, 2015 5:25 pm
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2 years after the disappearance of Donna Lass and Charles Hollingsworth this man who worked for a real estate company in South Lake Tahoe disappeared. Could it have been theorized he was a Z victim and might be connected to this "deep real estate" angle? Sorry if it has already been brought up.

http://www.nampn.org/cases/strehle_richard.html
1973: South Lake Tahoe – "Richard Edward Strehle, a 26 year old realtor with Maloney Realty, disappeared on July 5th, 1973. He was described, by a coworker, as quiet and dependable and was unlikely to be irresponsible.
He was last seen on the evening of July 5th, 1973 near his room (studio apartment) which was located at 1211 Julie Lane, by the husband of his landlady. The same coworker stated that Strehle had been mildly depressed due to his girlfriend leaving and moving back to Colorado."

Gee pink, I feel that I must stand up for all the murderers, kidnappers and low-life scum bags that were in California from 1960 – 1978…Give us some credit will ya. We did our share of dastardly deeds too!
They can’t all be the work of that darn Zodiac. Seriously, wild speculation and endless dead ends contribute nothing to an already convoluted case.

 
Posted : June 23, 2015 6:44 pm
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Well since there was a total of only 3 people missing from South Lake Tahoe from 1955-1985 and they all seemed to disappear within a small radius – and two were theorized previously on sites to possibly be Z victims, why not at least question what may have become of the last remaining missing person from that small radius?

It’s only logical. Oh and I’m assuming you think you have solved this case and there’s no more room for checking things out or even asking questions of others. That’s cool. Save the snark and smarmy mealy mouthed crap for your mommy.

Don’t insult me by assuming that I think everyone murdered in California is a Zodiac victim. I live here OK. I know just how many Nuts and criminals we have.

 
Posted : June 23, 2015 7:53 pm
morf13
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Well since there was a total of only 3 people missing from South Lake Tahoe from 1955-1985 and they all seemed to disappear within a small radius – and two were theorized previously on sites to possibly be Z victims, why not at least question what may have become of the last remaining missing person from that small radius?

It’s only logical. Oh and I’m assuming you think you have solved this case and there’s no more room for checking things out or even asking questions of others. That’s cool. Save the snark and smarmy mealy mouthed crap for your mommy.

Don’t insult me by assuming that I think everyone murdered in California is a Zodiac victim. I live here OK. I know just how many Nuts and criminals we have.

Everybody, take a deep breath……HAPPY THOUGHTS!……okay,carry on

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : June 23, 2015 10:26 pm
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There is talk of this ad (outside of Mr. X) here: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1756

Probably best if general discussion takes place there.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 1:04 am
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